Posted on 01/17/2012 11:58:25 PM PST by John Roco
Wow, you “get” what I’m trying to say! So glad not to be alone. Yes, indeed, this problem is exacerbated on our side, by shoving some straight but “artistic” or quiet boys over to the Glee side. I didn’t realize this until you said it. I think conservatives have not fought hard enough to explain to kids that we are not slaves to our orientation and give them an option to be themselves, even with their differences, and stay religious. And conservative.
i disagree...as the father to five i think parents....coddling moms and absent dads have everything to do with it
im 54 with a 5 year old...old alphas like methat who still run the family are relics trust me
and these new alpha moms will continue to raise feminized boys raised to wear sock caps
In our house we’ve done the same. Storing and microwaving food in glass only. Glass baby bottles (lifefactory is an awesome brand).
But tests have been done all over and studies report: BPA in all human wombs. Are we so arrogant to believe that these pollutants destroy reproductive systems of soft animals like fish and frogs but could never affect us?
http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/2011/09/2011-0927-fetal-attraction-bisphenol-a
When seeking a link, I found a ton that link bpa prenatally to girls born with behavior problems too.
As in all things human, a very few people seem born to be, among other things, musicians, athletes, mathematicians, salesmen, and homosexuals. However, as in all things human, most of those who become known as musicians, athletes, mathematicians, salesmen, and homosexuals do so through hard work and diligent practice under the direction of experienced mentors.
I respect your opinion. But I have seen rock-ribbed conservative families have one of their sons, often one with an older brother or two, be so affected. I’ve seen little masculinized girls from solid two parent decent families too. And conversely, I’ve seen very traditional gender play and identity from Heather and Hank with Two Mommies. I am sure the latter group is more comfy with homosexuality because they don’t know much else, but I think the child’s “play orientation” (children are not, and should not be, sexual) doesn’t depend on parents coddling.
And trying to beat an interest out of a child that young tells him he is “bad.”. It negates him as a human. Children should never be shamed until they are old enough to choose a wrong choice knowingly. I’m explaining that badly. Let’s put that differently: it’s not injuring a five-year-old who has sneaked a cookie before dinner to call him on it. But it is injurious to shame him for playing with his sister’s toys because he enjoyed it.
And remember that the child with loving parents WILL play with his sister’s Barbie no matter what. Most boys with their sister’s barbie will play like this:
- take off her clothes and laugh at the boobs
- cut her hair or some other wacky “mutilation”
- use her as a prop in his play world, like blow her up in a pretend war, or try to save her, or see what happens if you Vroom her around like a car
A feminized boy will play like this:
- Have her talk, play make believe with her
- comb her hair, fix it in styles
- change her clothes and talk about how pretty they are
It’s very different. And these are innocent kids who don’t have any political ideas about how they play. They just like toys and want to have fun.
We need to be as supportive of boys like that as the left is, and as we are of kids with other disabilities. It is NOT the fault of coddling parents who didn’t punish them enough. That is like saying that masculine boys were taught to be the wAy they are. They aren’t. They just are that way.
You have a point. So what is our answer for a feminized boy as he approaches puberty? Besides nasty cracks at him. Because right now, the Glee Agenda is the safest and most accepting place for him.
I am thinking of the character Chandler from Friends. Yes, a fictional character, to be sure. But there is one episode where all the friends say that when they first met him, they thought he was gay. I think we have all known someone like that. You assume they are gay, then you find out they are happily hetero.
We need to help boys to go in that direction. I don’t know how but I voice our need to try and save these guys and the opposite gals.
Then you are too young. American men never used to hug. There’s a reason for the change.
Watch some sports on TV.
“Tell me what you think- trying to be humane here, that way I think can make the most progress in stopping the onslaught and drawing the line- that things progress no further and stop where they ought.”
OK, I’ll try.
That “line” might have been “drawn” several years’ back, by Republicans/conservatives pushing for a “Marriage Amendment” in the Congress, right after Vermont passed its “civil unions” law.
THEN was the time to “do something”, because there was enough “national indignation” against the growing “gay putsch” that it might have been stopped in its track — back then.
Even some democrats in Congress would have voted for such an amendment, due to pressure from “the folks back home”. Once out of Congress, there was certainly enough momentum in the required number of state legislatures, for it to become the law of the land.
But back then, Republicans refused to act, because a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution would have been an extreme and final act — we were told that “it wasn’t necessary”. We were being lied to, and we swallowed that pill.
But the “gay left” knows that its goals are best won incrementally, and since Vermont, they’ve been working to that end, slowly, patiently, with their eyes on the prize. And sooner or later, they’re going to win that “prize”, which will be a decision by the U.S. Supreme Court that overturns the Defense of Marriage Act and legalizes gay marriage throughout the nation — a gay “Roe v. Wade”, if you will.
No, they won’t get it from the _current_ makeup of the Court, but the justices who are sitting now ain’t going to last forever. Sooner or later, a more liberal Court will be seated, and then the gay left will strike when the iron is hot — because we as conservatives failed to grasp the notion that it was up to _us_ to “strike” back then, years ago, while OUR “iron” was hot.
Wish I could be more optimistic, but I’m a realist and that’s how I see things....
Not if I don't have to.
When my sleazy scummy grandfather said to my buxom new wife “I gotta get a hug!” and proceeded to do just that I realized implicitly why.
Things shift back and forth, I am noticing a trend back towards more masculine men being the fashionable ideal, not that I care - for the women I like and the women who like me - being a manly man has NEVER gone out of fashion!
Merv Griffin was one of Reagan's pallbearers.
Wow. That is usually the line you hear from liberals whenever such “social” funding is discussed, that it isn't that conservatives think hand outs are less a solution than a hand up - it is that they don't want black people to get any government goodies.
It is not that we think the welfare system has destroyed the black family and created a dependent and aggrieved culture - it is that we don't want black people to have food stamps!
It is not that we think the rampant nanny State is contrary to the principles of a government of limited and enumerated powers - it is that we cannot STAND the thought of the underprivileged and racial minorities being cared for!
Disgusting!
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Agreed.
Title was about three times as long, but chopped and chopped ‘til fit the length that could go on FreeRepublic when first writing. Trying to emphasize point of first heading:
‘But how do we stop this immorality-’
Meaning that ‘homosexual morality’s USA’ = ‘immorality’
But you make a very good point and need to be more aware of what words of a title mean, especially when one is not there ‘to explain.’ It should be titled totally differently.
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Interesting discussion on the thread as well. For one thing, just "holding the line" is absolutely wrong and not near enough. Our culture is already deep in the sewer. "Not getting any worse" is already in the "deep doo doo" territory. How to get back to normalcy is the question. I have no answer other than my tagline.
Homosexuals are made, not born:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2730140/posts
Not born this way: The facts, plus help available
Save California ^ | Various authors
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:48:09 AM by scripter
Without any reputable evidence, the entertainment culture, uneducated media, and sexual activists have seduced today’s teenagers, in particular, to believe that people are born homosexual.
However, science has found no biological basis for homosexuality, bisexuality, or transsexuality.
Study after study has found the “LGBT” lifestyle to be unhealthy, with the highest rate of sexually-transmitted diseases, and higher cancer rates and earlier deaths.
While all people are worthy and valuable, the fact is people are not “born this way,” as a popular song insists.
On this page you will find:
1. The facts on homosexuality
2. Resources to overcome homosexual behavior and gender identity disorder
3. An important video message titled “Does God Love Gay People?”
4. Some personal stories from people who used to live a homosexual lifestyle
Homosexuality is not innate; no biological origin
Is there a “gay gene”?
National Association of Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH)
‘Gay’ gene claim suddenly vanishes
American Psychological Association revises statement on homosexuality
WorldNetDaily.com, May 12, 2009 — “A publication from the American Psychological Association includes an admission that there is no “gay” gene, according to a doctor who has written about the issue…”
“Homosexuality”
Facts About Youth, American College of Pediatricians, 2011
“No statistically significant [‘gay’] gene has been found”
Dr. Neil Whitehead, November 2006 interview
Peter Tatchell, British homosexual activist
Turn Signal with Kim Trobee, Focus Action 2008
“It would also be equally foolish to close the door and say that it’s simply down to biological factors, there’s no other factors or influences that impact on a person’s sexual orientation.”
Only 1.7 percent of the 18-and-over population identify as “gay”
Associated Press, April 7, 2011
Homosexuality is not healthy
“Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle”
Facts About Youth, American College of Pediatricians, 2011
“The Health Risks of Gay Sex”
Dr. John Diggs, Jr., MD, Corporate Research Council, 2002
Nearly 3/4 of HIV/AIDS infections transmitted by “male-to-male sexual contact”
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2008
Link between Sexual Orientation and Cancer
Cancer Network, May 12, 2011
“Homosexual men were found to be 1.9 times more likely to self-report a cancer diagnosis than were heterosexual men….Although homosexual women did not have a higher incidence of cancer, these women did report lower overall health as cancer survivors compared to heterosexual women.”
Prostate Cancer Survival May Be Especially Tough on Gay Men
HealthDay News, May 16, 2011
The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality
A catalog of research data
Family Research CouncilHomosexuals, Bisexuals More Unhealthy than Heterosexuals: Massachusetts Study
Americans for Truth about Homosexuality, December 3, 2008
Help for those struggling with homosexuality
The website Transformed Image has compiled a list of helpful links including:
» Support groups and ministries
» Published materials and videos
» Scripture for help dealing with sexual sin
» Websites of ex-homosexual outreaches
Additional help is available from:
Exodus International » | Stephen Bennett Ministries » | Michael Glatze »
Video message: Does God love gay people?
Are you struggling with homosexuality? Know someone who is? Do you think God doesn’t love people who engage in homosexual behavior? We encourage EVERYONE to view this message hosted by Jonathan Ervin, a man who has practiced homosexuality and has AIDS. He is joined by Dr. Will Honeycutt, Professor Darren Wu and Dr. Karen Swallow Prior. [14:17]
This video is by TrueLife.org. It can also be viewed here.
Stories from former homosexuals
» http://pfox.org/exgay_teen.html
» http://pfox.org/Our_Ex-Gay_Stories.html
» http://pfox.org/stories.html
» Stephen Bennett’s story
(Actual links if you click the thread.)
When you're right, you're right. And you're right about that.
Too young? I’m 54, Donna.
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