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18 rounds in 5 seconds: How Glock became ‘America’s gun’
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 18 jan 2012 | J. Patrick Coolican

Posted on 01/18/2012 11:02:18 AM PST by rellimpank

We’re at Desert Hills Shooting Club near Boulder City, and Paul Barrett steps up with a Glock 17. He fires the 9 mm semi-automatic pistol 18 times in about five seconds and hits the target every time.

In that five seconds, he demonstrates why the Glock is beloved by gun enthusiasts and police officers alike. It’s fast, reliable and offers a lot of stopping power, with three times the number of rounds as the old police favorite, the Smith & Wesson .38 revolver.

Barrett, in town this week for the Shooting, Hunting, Outdoor Trade Show (SHOT), the big firearms convention, has just published “Glock: The Rise of America’s Gun,” an entertaining and informative history — even if you’re not a gun enthusiast — of the firearm company that redefined the American handgun market beginning in the 1980s.

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: banglist; glock; rkba; rkbashotshow
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To: rellimpank

Not everyone can afford a Glock, even a used one, but almost everbody can scrounge up $100 for a Hi-Point C9.

21 posted on 01/18/2012 11:19:15 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: ArrogantBustard

for your sake I hope you are a better marksman....
it only takes one....

unless you are a poor marksman....then I can see how having 15 sub standard rounds might make the difference.


22 posted on 01/18/2012 11:19:21 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: All

what is the most rounds a non-exotic pistol from any pistol?


23 posted on 01/18/2012 11:23:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: rellimpank
I'm looking to pick up a couple of new toys. Glocks sure have a huge fan-base so they must be good. But I really like the looks of the XDm

Also looking for a Mossberg 12g 18"..
24 posted on 01/18/2012 11:23:48 AM PST by moehoward
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To: rellimpank

Won’t own a Glock for several reasons. 1) I’ll take well-made over loose tolerances. 2) When firing, it looks like a brick with sights on it. 3) The only safety on the gun is the trigger.


25 posted on 01/18/2012 11:24:31 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: MachIV
It’s kind of like a Ford vs. Chevy debate.

more like harley vs jap bikes. you love 'em or you hate 'em, and arguments tend devolve into personal attacks.
26 posted on 01/18/2012 11:25:02 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: rellimpank

It would be great to see them create a limited production run .50 caliber pistol and call it the Glock 50.


27 posted on 01/18/2012 11:25:48 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: absolootezer0
“more like harley vs jap bikes”

Agreed, I only own Harley's (LowRider and Sporty) and only American guns (S&W, Ruger, Browning and Mossberg)

28 posted on 01/18/2012 11:29:38 AM PST by Roy Baty (When there is no way out, find a way further in.)
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To: absolootezer0

—yep—mention “cult-like devotion” in the company of true believers in the 1911 and see what happens-—


29 posted on 01/18/2012 11:41:27 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
it only takes one....

ROFL!!!!

You actually believe that???

< snicker >

Don't act all shocked and surprised when the bad guys disagree with you.

30 posted on 01/18/2012 11:45:58 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
My, you name fits doesn't it?

If you need 15 rounds to get the job done you need more range time....

‘nuff said?

I won't even begin to get into the 9mm vs .45 ACP debate. We both know which round is the better.

I rest my case.

31 posted on 01/18/2012 11:57:50 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rellimpank
“cult-like devotion”

Looks like I've found an example right here on this very thread.

32 posted on 01/18/2012 12:02:15 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Agreed. My Kimber TLE II is pure joy.

I read recently, that Glock makes up 65% of all handguns sold in the US. That stat surprised me.

33 posted on 01/18/2012 12:02:41 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: MachIV

Same here, then bought a S&W Sigma .40: lousy trigger but reliable with anything.
Then bought a Ruger SR 9. It’s thin, has a safety and a nice trigger. Then a Ruger LC9.
No Glocks in my cabinet yet.


34 posted on 01/18/2012 12:17:01 PM PST by tumblindice (I'll vote for Mittens if Nappy Janet makes the cover of the SI swimsuit edition)
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To: longtermmemmory

(Assuming I can translate the question...)

A G17 with a +2 floorplate gives 20 rounds. 33 round mags are not uncommon, though kinda long for convenience.


35 posted on 01/18/2012 12:24:00 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: rellimpank

Then again, in California, at best, 10 rounds in 5 seconds... that is unless you can eject and reload a new clip in Superman speed. Clips here are limited to 10 rounds! Thank our left wing moron government!


36 posted on 01/18/2012 12:24:18 PM PST by Ranger Warrior ("To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

We’re not playing army. If you need two shots to stop the threat, you take two shots. Glock or Smith or whatever.


37 posted on 01/18/2012 12:24:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

1. What’s so “loose” about it? maybe not tight, but does MOA accuracy suffer to any meaningful degree?
2. If that brick hits the target sufficiently hard every time, I’ll take it.
3. It’s simple. Pull trigger, goes BANG. Don’t pull trigger, doesn’t go BANG. No surprises either way. Keep it holstered when not needed. (Having had a rifle fire upon safety release due to mechanical malfunction, I’m not enamored of safeties over simplicity & “keep the booger hook off the bang switch”.)


38 posted on 01/18/2012 12:29:01 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Ranger Warrior

So move already. Can carry an 11” suppressed AR around in GA if you like.


39 posted on 01/18/2012 12:30:20 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Colonel Cooper described it best and for both handguns and longguns....here are some excerps

I have yet to run across a case study that called for a double-column magazine in a .45 pistol. The highest score I know of in a gunfight was five, which was achieved by a shooter using a single-column magazine of 7-round capacity. It would seem obvious that the “spray-and-pray” method we see in gunfights is both ineffective and ridiculous. According to doctrine we shoot twice (except for head shots), and this is just to take care of unforeseen errors. There is nothing wrong with having a whole lot of rounds available in one loading unless it actually reduces the efficiency of the weapon, in which case the idea should be dropped. The double-column magazine, in a major caliber pistol, does indeed reduce efficiency and affords nothing particular in return.

There is also a worldwide preoccupation with fully automatic, hand-held fire. The “spray-and-pray” concept may be held in contempt by sophisticated shooters throughout the world, but there are not many of those. Most people in the press and law enforcement seem to feel that a whole lot of shots, hit or miss, is preferable to one well-placed hit. We cognoscenti know better than that, but we are in the minority.

Col. Jeff Cooper

40 posted on 01/18/2012 12:33:55 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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