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High-speed rail, the third-fastest way to Chicago!
pioneer press ^ | 1-18-12 | joe soucheray

Posted on 01/18/2012 7:48:57 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB

E.R. Companion, of Eagan, writing to the editor in Sunday's Pioneer Press, wondered why our elected officials would commit to spending billions of dollars for a so-called high-speed rail line from the Twin Cities to Chicago. (Well, because they're nuts.) Companion was referring to a story that appeared Jan. 12 featuring the idea that the Minnesota Department of Transportation has begun studying environmental impacts along the 400-mile route, which would take passengers to Chicago, through Milwaukee, in an advertised five hours and 30 minutes.

Companion wondered what was high-speed about that, and I could not agree more with his sentiment. Or maybe her sentiment.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Minnesota; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; chicago; debt; highspeed; illinois; minnesota; rail; spending; train; wgids; willie; wisconsin
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it's boondogglicious!
1 posted on 01/18/2012 7:49:04 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Paging Willie Green


2 posted on 01/18/2012 7:52:17 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 22 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

High speed rail: It beats walking


3 posted on 01/18/2012 7:54:41 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: SamAdams76
High Speed to Insolvency-Why liberals love trains. http://www.newsweek.com/2011/02/27/high-speed-to-insolvency.html

To progressives, the best thing about railroads is that people riding them are not in automobiles, which are subversive of the deference on which progressivism depends. Automobiles go hither and yon, wherever and whenever the driver desires, without timetables. Automobiles encourage people to think they—unsupervised, untutored, and unscripted—are masters of their fates. The automobile encourages people in delusions of adequacy, which make them resistant to government by experts who know what choices people should make.

Time was, the progressive cry was "Workers of the world unite!" or "Power to the people!" Now it is less resonant: "All aboard!"

-Will nails that one.

4 posted on 01/18/2012 7:56:45 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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Great framing. "Third fastest." The same could be said about other "Highspeed" corridors like the ridiculous 3C corridor from Cleveland to Cincinnati.

looks good on a map except for one little thing... hardly anybody ever travels from Cleveland to Cincinnati or vice versa. And if they do, I-71 is faster, cheaper and more efficient.

5 posted on 01/18/2012 7:57:16 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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This is as dumb as the Kalifornia Hi-Speed Rail project.
>Note that both are in Dumbocrat states with Union support.


6 posted on 01/18/2012 8:03:22 PM PST by TaMoDee
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The Milwaukee Road ran high speed passenger trains between the Twin Cities and Chicago until maybe 1950. The steam locomotives pulling these trains could cruise at 100 mph and had a top speed of 120.

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/streamlined/scrapped/hiawatha-3.jpg

http://www.germansteam.co.uk/FastestLoco/fastestloco.html#MR1

Not a cent of tax money was required. The railroads found it profitable to invest in fast passenger trains in that era. It’s not profitable today.


7 posted on 01/18/2012 8:03:42 PM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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Why would anyone in their right mind be in a hurry to get to Chicago?


8 posted on 01/18/2012 8:07:21 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Gosh I love Joe. I can’t believe I’ve been listening to him for 25 years.

Reusse too of cource. The two worst radio voices in history.


9 posted on 01/18/2012 8:10:43 PM PST by DManA
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Gosh I love Joe. I can’t believe I’ve been listening to him for 25 years.

Reusse too of cource. The two worst radio voices in history.


10 posted on 01/18/2012 8:10:52 PM PST by DManA
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Why would anyone in their right mind be in a hurry to get to Chicago?

If you lived in Detroit...

11 posted on 01/18/2012 8:15:25 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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not quite that dumb. yet:

Mystery Train - How has California’s high-speed rail project survived for 14 years . . .?

http://reason.com/archives/2010/07/13/mystery-train

Meanwhile, the California Assembly still can’t figure out why California is broke!

12 posted on 01/18/2012 8:17:07 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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The train offers me nothing, especially not ideologically, because I find the mindset behind most public transportation to be born of a collectivist mentality that I find antithetical to the reasons we are trying to get to places in America in the first place. We are a hustling country.

All hail the Flashlight King.

13 posted on 01/18/2012 8:17:30 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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We have rode the Coast Starlight a couple times (may as well, we subsidize it). It is not a terrible way to travel BUT we know if passengers had to pay the entire, true cost of the ride most of those passengers would vote with their feet - for something else.

The way I see it, taxpayer subsidized transit in all forms stifles the market. One can only wonder what better forms of transit would exist in a free and open market.

14 posted on 01/18/2012 8:26:34 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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How many billions of dollars to get there in 5 1/2 hours when you can fly it in an hour or drive it in 7 hours? The Democrats just love to flush money down the sewer.


15 posted on 01/18/2012 8:41:18 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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Intercity Bus holds some promise there. Gives that “leave the driving to us” factor that some of the commenters were commenting upon below the story.


16 posted on 01/18/2012 8:44:25 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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Oh, the Calif ASSembly knows but thy just don’t give a frack.


17 posted on 01/18/2012 8:50:19 PM PST by TaMoDee
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Is Obama going to FORCE Wisconsin to build the slow speed rail? I hope not.


18 posted on 01/18/2012 8:52:23 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pelham; WOBBLY BOB

The Milwaukee Road ran high speed passenger trains between the Twin Cities and Chicago until maybe 1950

Right cities but rwo railroads. The Hiawatha (Burlington/Northern RR) (Diesel) and the 400 (Diesel) (NorthWestern RR) so named because it took 400 minutes (6.6 hours) between Chicago and the Twin Cities. Took the 400 often between a small town Adams WI and Chicago and was on its last run.. Great ride in luxury.

At the time beat the hell out of driving the 8 hours to get to either Chicago/Adams WI locations. If it was still around would use it because it equals todays driving time which is about 4 hours on Xways. BTW government regs lowered speeds to 78 mph on existing track most trains can run faster but I believe they are governerd


19 posted on 01/18/2012 8:52:39 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name I received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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To: NonValueAdded

There are already multiple bus runs between Minneapolis and Chicago already.


20 posted on 01/18/2012 8:57:24 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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