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Obama argues against appearing at eligibility hearing (says GA has NO role in eligibility)
World Net Daily ^ | January 18, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/19/2012 7:23:55 AM PST by Seizethecarp

Barack Obama has outlined a defense strategy for a multitude of state-level challenges to his candidacy on the 2012 presidential ballot in a Georgia case that is scheduled to come before a judge later this month – simply explain that states have nothing to do with the eligibility of presidential candidates.

“Presidential electors and Congress, not the state of Georgia, hold the constitutional responsibility for determining the qualifications of presidential candidates,” Obama’s lawyer argues in a motion to quash a subpoena for him to appear at the hearings Jan. 26.

“The election of President Obama by the presidential electors, confirmed by Congress, makes the documents and testimony sought by plaintiff irrelevant,” the lawyer said.

Hearing have been scheduled for that date for three separate issues to be handled. They all are raised by Georgia residents who are challenging Obama’s name on the 2012 ballot for various reasons, which they are allowed to do under state law.

It is states, usually through the office of secretary of state, that run elections, not the federal government. The national election is simply a compilation of the results of the individual elections within states.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ballot; certifigate; ga; naturalborncitizen; obama; orlytaitz; usurper
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To: traditional1

Barack H. Obama II’s legal father is a citizen of Kenya, Barack H. Obama.

Who his bio dad may be is of NO LEGAL import.


141 posted on 01/20/2012 2:47:07 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I disagree with you. A person’s self-perception of allegience due to parental ties is stronger than genetic unknowns.


142 posted on 01/20/2012 2:50:50 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: edge919; Danae; DiogenesLamp

Something going on in California

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78810377/California-Noonan-Et-Al-v-Bowen-Et-Al-Writ-to-Keep-Obama-Off-Ballot-and-to-Stop-Fundraising


143 posted on 01/20/2012 4:15:50 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: LucyT; DiogenesLamp; Red Steel

GA Democrat Party Chairman asking for funds help fight GA ballot challenges

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6JRSQk9V4Y&feature=related


144 posted on 01/20/2012 4:31:41 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Seizethecarp; Danae; edge919; DiogenesLamp; LucyT
Motion filed for Burden of Proof Photobucket Photobucket
145 posted on 01/20/2012 4:45:18 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Seizethecarp

for once a Democrat is actually appealing to the authority of the Electoral College?


146 posted on 01/20/2012 4:48:01 AM PST by mo
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To: edge919; Red Steel; DiogenesLamp; LucyT; Danae; Spaulding; Brown Deer
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147 posted on 01/20/2012 5:15:39 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
It took almost four years to corner Obama, A US president born with foreign citizenship.

Unbelievable.

148 posted on 01/20/2012 5:45:22 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: edge919; LucyT; DiogenesLamp; Red Steel

Hatfield files Notice to Produce

http://www.art2superpac.com/UserFiles/file/Swensson-PowellvObama,NoticetoProduce,GeorgiaBallotAccessChallenge.pdf


149 posted on 01/20/2012 5:47:22 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: PA-RIVER

We know what happens when a dog is cornered.


150 posted on 01/20/2012 5:53:21 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: edge919

Minor is an 1874 case. Schneider v Rusk is a 1964 which clearly outlines the rights and obligations of the legislature with respect to naturalization and the rights delineated in the Constitution with respect to US citizenship.

It is clear in subsequent case law Natural Born Citizen status is undefined and SCOTUS has determined it can only be defined with a Constitutional Amendment.

Leo ignores case law in the late 20th Century because it doesn’t fit his agenda.


151 posted on 01/20/2012 6:00:31 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (PSALMS 37:28 For the LORD loves justice and does not abandon the faithful.)
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To: butterdezillion
Would it have to be a GA lawyer? I could give my evidence to a lawyer and have them file an amicus brief; then it would be done by a lawyer. The information is in the public record.

It could be any lawyer, but one Licensed to practice in Georgia would be better.

152 posted on 01/20/2012 6:03:40 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: butterdezillion
The pdf is a blatant forgery. If it was a supplemental BC following an adoption it would not be forged. And it would be lawfully certified; the pdf - even considering the vestiges of a seal - is not legally certified because it’s the registrar’s seal instead of the official HDOH seal which is 2 1/4” in diameter.

All replacement birth documents after adoption are forgeries. *MINE* is a forgery. They are "forged" by the state. The seal is an interesting issue, but I am not above attributing it to incompetence on the part of DOH. (Copy and paste might not get the size right, and THEY might not be smart enough to notice.)

I simply find it hard to believe that Hawaii DOH would sit back and not say anything while barry shows a document purportedly which came from them, if it were a blatant forgery of untrue information unless THEY CREATED it.

153 posted on 01/20/2012 6:10:14 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

They will try to ignore the issue and refuse to admit they were wrong, but they will know in their hearts that they were fools.


154 posted on 01/20/2012 6:13:34 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Intriguing theory. Isn't the :) in the Alvin Onaka part of the stamp at the very least an an element of an over-the-top eff-u document by a taxpayer-funded (presuming the DOH creation involvement) department? Additionally, the "x" being in place of the "h" in the word "The" of that "stamp" is highly suspect, as far as the "stamp" on a pdf goes. Setting those aside, as my Japanese friends are wont to say, "Lazed Seeru, wa?"

My Knowledge of Japanese extends to just a few words, and none of those are them. :)

The "smiley face" could be an artifact of the stamp. The "x" could as well, but it seems less likely. However, those two quirks seem to be too much to hang an external (to the DOH Hawaii) forgery on. Also I would point out that DOH Hawaii is not asserting the document is fake, which I would expect them to do were it created by a third party.

THEY may have a right to create fake replacement documents, but no one else does, and I don't see them sitting still for it.

I just find the risk involved for all parties to be so much greater if it isn't a legal forgery. The probabilities all stack up in the direction of it being a legal forgery created by DOH Hawaii. That is the simplest explanation which covers everything.

There is also the reluctance of Obama's lawyer to let anyone see the original from Hawaii. I highly suspect there may be something on the back of it which clearly indicates it is a replacement birth document for an adopted child, or some such. A lawyer does not take such efforts to control what can be viewed on a document unless he has some concern about someone discerning something he doesn't want them to see.

That's the other thing. I cannot see a lawyer attaching his credibility (and his possible future as a lawyer) so tightly to a document which he knows to be forged. It would cost him EVERYTHING if it were discovered.

Again, the ONLY sensible explanation is THAT DOCUMENT was created by Hawaii DOH, and it is a LEGAL forgery. (with mistakes.)

155 posted on 01/20/2012 6:25:53 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: SatinDoll
I disagree with you. A person’s self-perception of allegience due to parental ties is stronger than genetic unknowns.

In Obama's case, he didn't know either father. Any ties with the Kenyan are imaginary and illusory. He had no real contact with him. That is not saying they didn't have real effects on his psychology. If Davis was his actual father, he had more actual shaping of his allegiance by Davis than he did by Barack Sr. The Fact that Davis was a Communist who hated America simply yields the same result as if Barry had been raised by a third world father to behave the same way.

Barack's adherence to his "Kenyan" persona is a form of absent hero worship. His absent father could have been a cowboy or an astronaut and it would have achieved a similar result.

Blood tells who is the real father.

156 posted on 01/20/2012 6:34:21 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: bushpilot1

It would be nice if something was going on in EVERY State. Lets hope enough ballot challenges will actually generate a little panic in the Administration.


157 posted on 01/20/2012 6:38:22 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: bushpilot1
Motion filed for Burden of Proof

Awesome! There may yet be some nut cracking.

158 posted on 01/20/2012 6:40:07 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Danae; wingtip

Kind of a timely post. I was just thinking yesterday how long I have been a “birther”. Longer than the name has been around. Thanks for the kind words wingtip and ditto to Danae.

We will win!


159 posted on 01/20/2012 6:43:43 AM PST by GregNH (I am so ready to join a brigade of pick up trucks......)
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To: DiogenesLamp

DL, I enjoyed your post 156.

Obama only had two stable male influences in his formative years, and they were not either of his “fathers”.

I put the word “fathers” in quotes, because we do not know who his real father is.

His purported biological father was never a physical presence in his life, and his adopted father was not there after he was shipped to the grandparents in Hawaii.

The two male influences were his maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham, and Frank Marshall Davis, bot unrepentant Communists and haters of America.

As if it was not bad enough to be abandoned by two “fathers”, he was also abandoned by his mother, and for what? For her to chase her dreams of Third World Utopia?

When you stop and think of the mothers you know in real life, who would do such a thing? What is worth not seeing your only child grow up, and being there for them, especially knowing there is no father figure, or worse yet, knowing the father figures available to him are two Communists?

So, Obama has serious abandonment issues, and there is no way this did not scar him.

The whole construct of his supposed life story had to stem from his Kenyan “father”, so he could don the mantle of victimhood and acquire some modicum of minority identification.

His book was called “Dreams from My Father”.

My question has always been: How could you possibly know what they were? He was never there.”

The whole Davis-Jarrett-Chicago connection is no fluke either, but that’s another story.


160 posted on 01/20/2012 6:46:28 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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