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Iowa Caucus: First in the Nation Clown Show
Outside the Beltway ^ | JANUARY 19, 2012 | JAMES JOYNER

Posted on 01/19/2012 10:08:41 AM PST by Qbert

Reacting to this morning’s news that not only has Rick Santorum won the Iowa Caucuses after all but that they’ve managed to lose more ballots than the margin of victory, the Telegraph’s Toby Harnden tweets, “What a debacle for Iowa. Hard to see why candidates should take Iowa caucuses seriously in future.”

Indeed.

This is truly a joke. In a contest with fewer total votes (121,503 counted; goodness knows how many lost) than your average election for a school board seat, the powers that be have managed to have wild shifts in the vote count in several districts and be so incredibly incompetent as to render eight precincts uncountable.

This, in a contest that gets so much attention that several candidates are eliminated from the race based on the outcome.

(Excerpt) Read more at outsidethebeltway.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: ia2012; iowacaucus; mattstrawn; romney; santorum
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To: Qbert

Yes, ethanol is another reason to ignore the whole thing. I agree.


21 posted on 01/19/2012 11:10:12 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: cornfedcowboy
Pennsylvania? Ya right, home of the clean elections. Gimme a break.

Nope, we have corruption in all of the major cities in PA.

I'm a poll watcher so I know, first hand, the lengths that the demonRATs will go, to win by fraud.

That has nothing to do with Iowa's pig farmers that don't know how to count and can't keep track of a couple of precincts.

Those sanctimonious crap kickers just want to drink coffee on TV and get interviewed every four years so they can pontificate about not making up their collective single brain celled mind, until the night of the cauci, when, the light will come on, and they will commit.

Why should a country of 310,000,000 pay that kind of attention to 120,000 farmers that can't keep track of a few ballots?

22 posted on 01/19/2012 11:14:15 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Yep. The whole thing is a sham on many levels. The sooner they get dumped as the "first in the nation", the better, IMHO.
23 posted on 01/19/2012 11:20:23 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

Except that the tax credit ended, and no one is screaming for it. Corn prices are so high now that ADM, Kraft, and other food producers are laying people off.

The extra nickle in corn prices doesn’t mean much now. Hasn’t for a few years honestly. The end of the blending credit didn’t make the news.


24 posted on 01/19/2012 11:21:35 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: USS Alaska

What’s to clean up. A caucus is run by local folks, not professional politicians. They take an informal straw poll there. The results have nothing to do with how Iowa’s convention delegates vote.


25 posted on 01/19/2012 11:22:08 AM PST by DManA
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To: USS Alaska
If you follow the news, it isn't that the counts were wrong at the caucus areas, it is the the Voter Service reported them wrong.

The counts get called in, and the paper ballots are locked up and then shipped to Des Moines. What happened is that a ballot watcher noticed that the counts reported for Dubuque county didn't match the actual count total. This was reported very early on, and was confirmed, but the state GOP didn't acknowledge it.

Long story short, it was rigged.

26 posted on 01/19/2012 11:25:33 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
True, but...:

"Why would an industry give up a subsidy? Maybe because it wasn't subsidizing the industry anymore. Thanks to the ethanol mandates in the 2005 and 2007 energy bills, ethanol demand is now driven by mandates rather than tax credits..."  

27 posted on 01/19/2012 11:29:14 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

True in part.

It is also true that a lot plants have failed, and more to follow.

Which is good for me, I can get a used decanter centrifuge for cheaper.


28 posted on 01/19/2012 11:35:00 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Qbert

Yep, Iowa is just small potatoes...

By may count, based on our esteemed President’s proclamation, we still have 55 more states to go... Lots of room there...


29 posted on 01/19/2012 12:01:18 PM PST by coldoc
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To: Qbert

Yep, Iowa is just small potatoes...

By may count, based on our esteemed President’s proclamation, we still have 55 more states to go... Lots of room there...


30 posted on 01/19/2012 12:01:32 PM PST by coldoc
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To: redgolum
"it was rigged"

We are well on the way to having to vote for the guy that the republican old buys club gave us - again.
The bogus caucus "win" was given to him by stalwart pubby volunteers.
In any event, a caucus is just about the worst possible means of selecting a candidate - witness Ron Paul's strong performance when the Paulbots show up in gross numbers.

A caucus is "rigged" simply by it's partisan "volunteer" make up at the start - in this instance those volunteers were also either dumb or incompetent.
Just allowing Iowa to hand out the first indication of relative standing puts a bias on all the primaries that follow.

31 posted on 01/19/2012 12:01:47 PM PST by norton
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To: coldoc

“May” = “my” . Darn Spell Checkers..


32 posted on 01/19/2012 12:09:55 PM PST by coldoc
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