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Court throws out judge-drawn Texas electoral maps
Associated Press ^ | 1/20/12 | Greg Stohr

Posted on 01/20/2012 7:34:46 AM PST by Happy Valley Dude

Edited on 01/20/2012 7:39:53 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) The Supreme Court has thrown out electoral maps drawn by federal judges in Texas that favored minorities. The unsigned opinion Friday left the fate of Texas' April primaries unclear.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: electionmaps; redistricting; texas

1 posted on 01/20/2012 7:34:51 AM PST by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Bender2; nuconvert; txhurl

Ping.


2 posted on 01/20/2012 7:36:14 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Happy Valley Dude
Judges have no right to steal power from the Congress, whether state or federal. Judicial abuse is increasing and had better be squelched , such abuse of power by power grabbing judges is not to be tolerated.
And states need to stand up together and rebuke the DC power mad dictator obama and all his evil allies in the congress.
We don't need no stinking DC regulators dictating unconstitutional laws and stealing states monies for useless and worthless thieves in America.
3 posted on 01/20/2012 7:43:23 AM PST by kindred (wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ ...)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Too bad the Census counts the illegal aliens living in our Country.


4 posted on 01/20/2012 7:44:32 AM PST by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: Happy Valley Dude
The age old argument. Are laws different for minorities than they are for whites? Is the Constitution worded differently for minorities than for whites? Why should there be special set aside districts for minorities? It's unconstitutional (Equal Protection) to draw special district lines specifically to create minority districts.

Of course, I know what the Constitution says is immaterial these days. I know that "equal protection" really means unequal protection, but I do like to exercise my increasingly limited right to free speech now and then to pose these questions.
5 posted on 01/20/2012 7:50:09 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Happy Valley Dude; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; ...
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

6 posted on 01/20/2012 7:53:27 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Good on Texas!!!


7 posted on 01/20/2012 7:54:53 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Sudetenland

I highly recommend you read Injustice by J. Christian Adams. He speaks to your rhetorical questions brilliantly.


8 posted on 01/20/2012 7:56:26 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sudetenland
Why should there be special set aside districts for minorities? It's unconstitutional (Equal Protection) to draw special district lines specifically to create minority districts.

Because of the Voting Rights Act, and because some imbecile named George W. Bush signed a 25-year extension to it.

9 posted on 01/20/2012 7:56:33 AM PST by montag813
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Looks like this ruling will throw a wrench in the planned Apr primary. I doubt they’ll have approved district lines drawn in time for approval in order to proceed with the Apr primary. This court case involved district in all three branches: State Senate, State Representative and Congressional.


10 posted on 01/20/2012 8:00:36 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: montag813
George was a really good, caring, compassionate, well intentioned man . . . and that of course was the problem. As they say, "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

Even today, he is damaging our nation by his actions (or more properly inaction). He could be of genuine service if he would speak out against the madness of this Narcissist in Chief and the destruction he has wrought and continues to wreak on our nation and our people, but GWB is too "noble," too devoted to ensuring the dignity of the Presidency to speak out.

One would think that his love of this country would impel him to speak out, but he is unwilling to do so. It's very disappointing that he won't speak out against what Obama has done; very selfish of him.
11 posted on 01/20/2012 8:03:24 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Sort of like the maps in Arizona that were 2 houses wide and snaked across the state for 300 miles. Hah! BTW we still don’t have representation here in Tucson although that’s possibly not all bad considering Giffords voting record. Taxation w/o representation? I guess its ok.


12 posted on 01/20/2012 8:20:35 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Sudetenland

Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton sure speak out. Bush should counter them.

You know nobody will be able to control Obama’s mouth when he is removed from office.


13 posted on 01/20/2012 8:20:43 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Somebody remembered that the Constitutions (of Texas and the US) don’t say that judges get the important decisions and the Legislatures get the unimportant ones. I do wish the SCOTUS had said “hands off,” but this is better than nothing.

The only “minority” the map San Antonio Federal District judges favored was the minority Party, the Dems. They actually created a brand new District!

Our Republican Legislators include “minorities.” The judges ignored that all minorities turned more toward the Republicans in 2010.


14 posted on 01/20/2012 8:22:01 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: FreeAtlanta; Sudetenland
Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton sure speak out. Bush should counter them.

Bush speaking for us? Man, talk about a double-edged sword! Do you want him out there campaigning for Romney?

15 posted on 01/20/2012 8:26:15 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing popular indenture since 1832.)
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To: Sudetenland
He could be of genuine service if he would speak out against the madness of this Narcissist in Chief and the destruction he has wrought and continues to wreak on our nation and our people, but GWB is too "noble," too devoted to ensuring the dignity of the Presidency to speak out.

Spot on. I've wondered about this, often. C'mon George...our country is being shoved down the rabbit hole and you're holding your head high???

16 posted on 01/20/2012 8:30:55 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Carry_Okie
No, but he should be out there taking Obama and the Democrats to task for their lies and their destructive policies. He should be out there blasting them for placing their pettiness for placing their party and their politics above the needs of the nation. He should be out these lambasting Obama for betraying the American people and the unemployed by rejecting the Keystone Pipeline.

For goodness sakes, he's the former President. He has an obligation to speak out against the devastation Democrats have been wreaking and defending his administration's actions.

This is the same vanity we are seeing now that we saw during his administration where he refused to defend himself against the Democrats' attacks.
17 posted on 01/20/2012 8:34:00 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: deport

There’s talk of a split primary, the congressional races postponed till summer but letting others, in particular the Presidential vote, stay in April.

Two primaries will cost us money, but it might be worth it in this case. Assuming it’s not settled by April, I want Texas to have a say in the nomination.


18 posted on 01/20/2012 8:36:25 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: montag813
Because of the Voting Rights Act, and because some imbecile named George W. Bush signed a 25-year extension to it.

The Voter Rights Act is no longer needed; has not been for a long time - if ever. It is just used by the DemocRats as one more worn out political football to stoke the rabid racism that undergirds their very existence.

19 posted on 01/20/2012 8:43:58 AM PST by fwdude
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To: Jedidah; deport

I did the Operation Chaos thing last time because the nomination had already been clinched. I sure hope I get to have a say this time. I’ll be one unhappy camper if not. I like the split primary idea, I think. I’ll have to look into the possibilities and consequences.


20 posted on 01/20/2012 8:45:21 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: deport
Looks like this ruling will throw a wrench in the planned Apr primary. I doubt they’ll have approved district lines drawn in time for approval in order to proceed with the Apr primary.

Then, in the absence of any proof of "disenfranchising" minorities, the constitutionally-draw state legislature maps should be used.

This is getting maddening.

21 posted on 01/20/2012 8:47:02 AM PST by fwdude
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To: Jedidah

There is a mountain of voter registration cards (including mine since I recently moved) which can’t proceed because the county clerk’s office doesn’t know what U.S. representative district I will be in. That’s the practical problem here is that any solution is going to require some lag time for the voter ID cards to go out.


22 posted on 01/20/2012 8:47:11 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: All
The high court said the judges appeared in some instances not to pay enough attention to the state's choices. The judges made mistakes in their plans, particularly in altering district lines for state legislative and congressional seats in parts of the state where there is no allegation of discrimination on the part of the Legislature, the high court said.

"In the absence of any legal flaw in this respect in the state's plan, the district court had no basis to modify that plan," the justices said, talking about state House districts in north and east Texas.

(bold mine for emphasis)

23 posted on 01/20/2012 8:55:13 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: winkadink; reaganaut
Too bad the Census counts the illegal aliens living in our Country.

I believe that Constitutionally, they should only count as 3/5 of a person.

24 posted on 01/20/2012 8:55:58 AM PST by mrreaganaut (Stupidity killed the cat. Curiosity was framed.)
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You'll find the text of the opinion here(PDF).

Justice Thomas had a concurring opinion. Here's the opening paragraph of that...

The Court proceeds from the premise that court-drawn interim plans are necessary in part because Texas’ newly enacted redistricting plans are unenforceable for lack of preclearance under §5 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Ante, at 1–3. In my view, Texas’ failure to timely obtain §5 preclearance of its new plans is no obstacle to their implementation, because, as I have previously explained, §5 is unconstitutional. See Northwest Austin Municipal Util. Dist. No. One v. Holder, 557 U. S. 193, 212 (2009) (THOMAS, J., concurring in judgment in part and dissent- ing in part). ...

25 posted on 01/20/2012 9:07:05 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Didn’t think about the voter registration problem.


26 posted on 01/20/2012 9:11:42 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: Sudetenland

“Are laws different for minorities than they are for whites? Is the Constitution worded differently for minorities than for whites?”

You are bold and brave to ask such questions, even in this forum.

But they are questions that _must_ be asked — and then _answered_ — if our nation is to go forward as The Founders intended, or to sink into a sea of “diversity”...


27 posted on 01/20/2012 9:17:22 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: fwdude

Then, in the absence of any proof of “disenfranchising” minorities, the constitutionally-draw state legislature maps should be used.


To a degree that is what this court ruling alluded to. Not that they should use the state legislature drawn maps exclusive, but that the court ignored them in total.


28 posted on 01/20/2012 9:32:12 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: fwdude; montag813

lol...that makes about 3 of us here

most freepers ape the Beck-Rush-Hannity line of praise for the first 1960s race initiatives like they are the Torah of modern politics

sad


29 posted on 01/20/2012 9:32:56 AM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: winkadink
Too bad the Census counts the illegal aliens living in our Country.

I believe that Louisiana has filed a lawsuit saying that Texas has too many districts because of the illegal count. They believe that Texas took one of theirs.

I think that if you take in the Katrina people, then you get their congressional district.

30 posted on 01/20/2012 9:34:12 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I can’t believe that they’re targeting Texas to run this jive-[unladylike words] past the people. Keep fighting their rampant lawlessness, Texans!


31 posted on 01/20/2012 10:15:47 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady

The SCOTUS publicly spanked the leftist judges who re-wrote the Texas legislature’s district alignments.


32 posted on 01/20/2012 10:22:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
The SCOTUS publicly spanked the leftist judges who re-wrote the Texas legislature’s district alignments.

And the decision was 9-0 (techniclly, 8-1, but Thomas went farther than the majority in slapping down the lower court).

33 posted on 01/20/2012 10:37:51 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

bttt


34 posted on 01/20/2012 11:02:04 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: FreeAtlanta
You know nobody will be able to control Obama’s mouth when he is removed from office.

Which is why I hope he's put into solitary confinement rather than the general penitentiary prison population.
35 posted on 01/20/2012 12:52:46 PM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Excellent book!


36 posted on 01/20/2012 2:02:08 PM PST by buffyt (NOBAMA)
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To: Jedidah

“Assuming it’s not settled by April, I want Texas to have a say in the nomination.”

The way this primary is shaping up, by rights,now (because of getting our primary dates moved to later date) Texas should be able to have a winner-take-all instead of proportional representation, in which case, think of the ramifications of having 155 delegates up for grabs if this becomes a competitive raceall the way through to the national convention!


37 posted on 01/20/2012 5:35:20 PM PST by ngat
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To: MeekOneGOP; ValerieTexas; basil; Allegra; DrewsDad; HiJinx; SwinneySwitch; HopeandGlory; ...

Just in case you missed this ping.


38 posted on 01/20/2012 5:36:25 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: wardaddy; fwdude; montag813

“lol...that makes about 3 of us here”

Make that 4...


39 posted on 01/20/2012 9:06:14 PM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: Sudetenland; Carry_Okie
For goodness sakes, he's the former President. He has an obligation to speak out against the devastation Democrats have been wreaking and defending his administration's actions. This is the same vanity we are seeing now that we saw during his administration where he refused to defend himself against the Democrats' attacks.

Rush made a good point. The elites of D.C. do not see "much" wrong with our Country. They truly don't think things are that bad.

Bush will never be affected by the evils of Obama. It speaks volumes that he doesn't speak out.

Bush either is being threatened if he does speak out; doesn't really care enough to speak out, or he doesn't think Obama's policies are are as destructive as we believe.

Remember, both Bushes pursued policies that greatly increased the power of the State over the individual. They are Statists at heart. Statist view the State as an inherent instrument of good.

Our Founders rightfully had real hostility towards a powerful central government. Our Founders cherished Liberty. Our Founders knew that government would attract men of evil ambitions and lustful of power.

Paramount in their implementation of our Constitution was the belief that government must severely limited in power. They put in numerous firewalls that held the Statists at bay for well over a hundred years.

Our Founders would be amazed our Republic as lasted this long without needing the "reset" of a revolution.

It can be surmised from various writings that many of our Founders expected ever so often that the people would rise up and put the "fear of the people" in those politicians of mischievous ends. It would have been good if every decade of so, most of Washington was tarred, feathered, and run out of town.

40 posted on 01/20/2012 11:33:37 PM PST by sand88 (Hey Rove et al, I will, with great pleasure, NOT cast a vote for the Statist Mitt.)
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To: sand88
Our Founders would be amazed our Republic as lasted this long without needing the "reset" of a revolution.

As far as they were concerned, we passed the point of needing a reset about a hundred years ago.

41 posted on 01/21/2012 12:26:30 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing popular indenture since 1832.)
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To: Sudetenland

Just wait, soon whites will be forced to drink out of their own water fountain.


42 posted on 01/21/2012 12:49:36 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: wardaddy

“most freepers ape the Beck-Rush-Hannity line of praise for the first 1960s race initiatives like they are the Torah of modern politics”


Pipe down ya ol’ dinosaur! ;)


43 posted on 01/21/2012 9:30:58 AM PST by chasio649 (Stop looking for heroes.)
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