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To: SpringtoLiberty

No worries, I’ve seen the “druggie” cop out many many times myself. So, I understand where you’re coming from.

I think you bring up a lot of valid points. I’d like to talk about a few of them. You mentioned having a non interventionist view. I don’t, per se, but I also don’t have a view that our foreign policy is correct either. Here’s my take. I think if we have an alliance or treaty with a country (passed by the Congress, signed by the President), then in that scenario, we should make a term of that agreement that we get some form of compensation. We don’t need to police the world, and certainly not on our taxpayer’s dime. We could take monetary compensation, or we could have accesses to resources etc. There are those in the world who’d hate us and say we’re pillaging their country, but so what? They do that anyway. So I think if we have no interest in a country, we shouldn’t be there. We fought our own revolutionary war, so can other countries.

I agree with changing our monetary policy. Yesterday Gingrich said he had been contemplating a gold backed currency (use a keyword search for “gold” and it’ll come up). It may or may not be political pandering, but at least the dialogue is being elevated.

Lastly, on the topic of the younger voters, it’s important that people understand that the (collective) past two elder generations have screwed their children financially. They’re leaving them with debt past their eyeballs, a decaying military, a police state, and beyond that, a war on any morality. Too many people rolled over for the leftists. Now we’re broke, and the argument is coming down to socialism funded on the backs of the younger generations. Let’s be honest. There is no money. We are spending TRILLIONS in deficit every year. There’s nothing in the social security “fund.” Foreign countries had been subsidizing our debt, but now the Fed is monetizing it.

So on top of all the other issues, a currency crisis is falling into the laps of those born after say, 1975. The bulk of their adult lives is going to be in a country with few freedoms, no sound money, and nation breaking debt. They’re right to be angry. Now they’re being told, “Sit down, and shut up, and don’t you dare touch my social security (that [you’ll] have to pay for).”

This is a huge problem. A generation that wants the next one to labor to pay for their retirment has the audacity to call the de facto slaves “lazy.” No, misguided, maybe (by their leftist teachers, and apathetic parents), but the problem is they want the freedom they’re being denied. The solution isn’t a class warfare, it’s to completely eliminate the socialism, and the strangling rgulation. Don’t make them pay for everything, and everyne can be responsible for their own retirement. And the argument that they paid into the system, can easily be countered by them taking right back out of the system, leaving nothing for the next generation who has also been paying and won’t see a dime. I know it’s not popular among many of the back patters here on FR but the fact is that the youth aren’t protesting because they’re lazy. They’re protesting because no matter how hard they work, only a very select few (those who already had connections), will be able to cut through the red tape and be able to earn their own living (ie. start their own businesses).

Free up the culture, and people like to work. People like to work and to receive greater and greater yields. When people work harder and harder, and get taxed and regulated back down to the bottom, they stop wanting to work. Meanwhile, the ones that make it to the top, lobby to ensure no one else can. THAT is the problem with have in this country right now. And until it’s addressed, people will continue to leave both the Democratic and Republican parties. Both are two heads of the same coin. Look at voting on NDAA et ell. We’re all being sold down the river.


81 posted on 01/20/2012 12:28:40 PM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: JDW11235

Well said.

The points about the boomers are too true. I’ve them called “the Worst Generation”. Time will tell but it can’t be too far off.

I would like to add that the degradation of the American family and the wholesale slaughter of the unborn have contributed greatly to our decline as well.


83 posted on 01/20/2012 12:35:41 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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