“So free contraception is some sort of right...” Is Viagra still covered by most health plans??
I have never been able to understand why all contraception, including barrier kinds like condoms and the cervical cap are being opposed by conservatives. It’s not like caring for the children of the poor with tax money is a high priority in conservative circles. Also opposition to sex education is high on the list although a recent study indicates that ignorance about sex is the case in 1/2 of teen pregnancies. Does this inconsistancy exist because conservatives don’t know how to think, or because conservatives want to control the knowledge and lives of women??
Could it be because contraception corrupts relations between men and women, most grievously in the context of family life, and that, since the family is the original (and therefore privileged) social unit, contraception is socially destabilizing?
Could it be because contraception is an assault on human dignity by conditioning men and women to view each other only as sex toys?
Could it be because contraception conditions society to be hostile to new life, leading to abortion, sexual exploitation, illegitimacy, infidelity, divorce, child desertion, parentless children (and the crimes they commit)?
Could it be because big government and big business see the promise of consequence-free "sex" (mutual masturbation, actually) as useful tools for social control and revolution?
Could it be because contraception is now proving to be an economy destroyer, with aging populations not being succeeded by sufficient numbers of younger workers, consumers, investors, and taxpayers -- ensuring the eventual mandating of euthanasia for the elderly?
Two words: Humanae Vitae.
It’s really worth a read.
“Free” contraception? No such thing....
There are many men out there right now, however, jumping for joy...FREE in this context means....FREE to DO WHATEVER I want without consequence.
Your premise is false at the outset. I am not opposed to contraception. I don't want to control other people's lives. They can do as they like.
What I am opposed to is forcing a faith-based organization to pay for an activity that violates their faith. If contraception coverage is important to you, DON'T TAKE A JOB WITH A CATHOLIC ORGANIZATION. If having wine with your lunch is important to you, don't work for Muslim or Baptist organizations. If using illegal drugs is important to you, don't apply to an employer with drug testing. If you want to cheat on your taxes, don't work for the IRS. If you want to cheat on your spouse, think twice about running for president.
The only possible intrusion I can contemplate tolerating is requiring an organization that does not cover contraception or abortion to DISCLOSE that fact to applicants. Then the applicant can make the choice as to whether that is a problem for them or not - in other words, make an informed choice.
I don't want to control people who believe differently than I do on this subject - but neither do I want to be controlled BY them. And that is what this is all about - not conservatives trying to control women, but liberals trying to control conservatives.
And by the way, caring for poor children is important to conservatives. We just don't think that creating more poor children should be a government-subsidized career choice!
With all due respect, my conservative viewpoint on this topic is not a rejection of contraception itself. Rather, it is the notion that taxpayers should somehow be mandated to enable all American’s a free supply.
Have to also say that pulling the heartstrings of poor people and teens, doesn’t fly with me either. We should operate from the mandate that people take responsibility for their actions shouldn’t we? That if a couple chooses to have sex, there’s a good chance of a far greater responsibility ocurring 9 months later. We should neither inspire or enable people to be reckless with their decisions.
I also do not follow the comment that conservatives somehow wish to prevent sex education. I’d much rather have people prepared early to understand. I’m OK with school providing some of this, but as a parent, it’s my responsibility.
re: coverage
No, because women are too stupid to close their legs due to lack of self-esteem (or attempting to be men or live as they think men do, no responsibility) and some men as well as women lack responsibility or thought of consequences beforehand.
A parent knows the maturity of their children and when they’re ready to be talked to on sex. How many schools do you know without sex ed or include it in health class?
And please send me that study re: half of teen pregnancies due to sex ignorance. How many are due to sexual practice after the thoughts are put in their heads... do they have a percentage for that? Give a boy a condom, he’ll go all out to use it, realize it would feel better without it, will have sex without it. Does the sex-ed teacher raise the resulting child or even babysit? The problem is the brainwashing of the state raising our children; It’s outside their perview. Reading, writing, arithmetic, critical thinking... if they concentrated on that (which they haven’t, obviously), instead of getting into the students sexual or non-sexual lives, the world would be a better place.
The right takes care of kids through their personal money. Charity isn’t forced.
BTW, those where men in the Supreme Court the lawyers brought their fake cases too (Roe and Doe). Tell everyone here how the pill came about (Puerto Rico studies, lies that it was to help ‘fertility’ and the outcome); How McCorvey of Roe and Cano of Doe came to be in those cases, the outcome and truth of the situations and where they are now; How an abortion or contraception contributes to ‘health’ (note the warnings on the packs); How much conservatives vs. liberals give to causes not from ‘someone elses money’, but their own (check the comparisons) and tell me how many young women have died from the latest ‘contraception’ out there.
Are you also for forced sterilization? It was here in over thirty states; Was that control over women’s bodies? Did you know Ernst Rudin was published in Birth Control Review (Sanger’s) re: Eugenic Sterilization and Lothrop Stoddard was on her board? Did you know Leon Whitney (Am. Eugenics Society, her comrade), was asked by Hitler for his book and also Madison Grant and after receiving it called it the bible? That was the early thirties... we see how that panned out; Less than eight years later in 1940 he had euthanized over 5000 handicapped kids.
Don’t get me started on Kinsey, sexual deviant who wanted anything goes because of his sado-masochism (I would tell you more from his childhood on, it would make you sick). The story behind Masters and Johnson’s lives and sex studies (that would be your sex ed pioneers).
I could go on for days. When non-terminal Schiavo was starved to death for 13 days many didn’t give it a thought or see the connection; I suggest you study the past and how we got to where we are.
Do you volunteer at an orphanage, after-school programs, home for mothers or take someone’s child to give them a break? Do you go to shop for the kids clothes or provide teacher friends as well as families kids with school supplies every year?
I don’t hear those ‘women’ citing the rape and molestation of minors covered up by Planned Parenthood or caring about sex traffic of women. I don’t see them marching against offenders being let out light.
And how on earth can anyone control the ‘knowledge’ of women, much less anyone.
Then we wonder why kids shoot up schools, kill their parents, rape and have no regard for women, they’re survivors of the abortionist’s scalpel... it could have been them, hence their lives don’t mean anything. When you say ‘I don’t want you punished with a baby’ in front of your children or even go get your daughter birth control, don’t you see to them it’s negating their existence? If you don’t want them ‘punished with a baby’, obviously they feel you were punished with them. We have made ourselves objects instead of being what we are, truly feminine in it’s entirety. We ask where the real men are while taking their manhood away.
Don’t you realize the power over you (not in you), by you taking the pill (there are natural ways without the side effects used for centuries).
Just like you don’t want anyone in your bedroom, don’t ask someone else to provide for your clueless behavior and lack of thought before, during or after your ‘private’ act. Your employer doesn’t sleep with you. Just like I can’t go to the sex-ed teacher who gave my son condoms or took my daughter to the DOH for BC pills and sue when my kids weren’t mature enough and someone got pregnant. If you could drop off babies to those classrooms or sue them for support, it would stop quick.
I suggest you read all those who led up to this point and what they did in THEIR lives. How many kids did they have; How was their marriage; How did they feel about mom and dad/how they were raised; How did it turn out; What were their reasons for what they did. Read the sexual libertines personal upbringing, family and sexual lives and get back to me. BTW, a lot of them lied under the maternity or helping marriages mantra to get their views out, while wanting to destroy these very things. Something to think about.
This separates sex from love and opened Pandora’s box. Now life and love mean nothing.
You are an unthinking fool, so I was shocked to see how long you have been around. It is about time you start taking advantage of FR. It is filled with opportunities to gain knowledge and learn critical thinking.