Skip to comments.Teacher: It's a feeling of us vs. them
Posted on 01/22/2012 11:22:38 AM PST by Nachum
Cleaning out years of projects and student art from her classroom was an emotional process for Teri Cowan, but she felt it was her only choice. Cowan worked for the Ector County Independent School District for 23 years, 13 of those years teaching Advanced Placement and International Baccalaureate sophomore English at Odessa High School. She was teacher of the year for the 2010-11 school year at the high school and secondary teacher of the year for ECISD for the 1995-96 school year. As well as volunteering as the National Honor Society, prom and class council sponsors. Tuesday, Jan. 17, was
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What do you teach (journalism/speech here)?
My principal told us...
Most college-educated professions will give you at least two weeks off a year. It’s blue-collar work that won’t give vacations. Those that don’t take a vacation for years do it by choice if they are in true professional work.
I call the following “leftist” ( I will not follow that with your scatological crudity):
Government owned and run schools are by definition a socialist-entitlement welfare program. They are compulsory for all those whose parents can not ransom them by paying the jizya needed to attend private or homeschooling. Simply by attending children risk learning that government and the voting mob can give them tuition-free schooling. Well?...If government and the voting mob can give them tuition-free schooling, why not use that power to get **lots** of socialist goodies?
Regarding “moments of silence”:
Such moments teach children to be silent about their faith. The children risk learning that faith and prayer is something to be hidden as if it were a bathroom activity. It is so taboo that there must be silence about it. Do you remember, in the book, “Brave New World”, where the word “mother” was never to be said aloud? This is the lesson being taught with these moments of silence. This is not only **not** religiously neutral, it is, indeed, a negative lesson about faith.
The rest of the day, they are subjected to non-stop godless secular humanism. Simply to cooperate in the classroom the child must think and reason godlessly. How could it be otherwise?
Regarding government schools and compulsion:
Government schools are compulsory for all children whose parents can not ransom them. Simply by attending these children risk learning to be comfortable with government compulsion.
Regarding government schools and the First Amendment and freedom of conscience:
Government schools trash every First Amendment Right. Speech, press, assembly, and exercise of religion are all strictly controlled by government functionaries, and the government establishes the religion of godless secular humanism ( by law) in its schools. In many ways, children ( whose only crime was being born) are treated and marched around like prisoners. Even their schools look like minimum security prisons, and their play areas look like prison exercise yards. Merely by attending children risk learning to be comfortable with being prisoners of the state.
Conclusion: I too live in one of the reddest states, and one of the reddest counties in the nation. It does not matter. Whether red, blue, or purple, socialist schools teach children to be comfortable with socialism. Whether red, blue or purple, godlessly secular schools teach children to think and reason godlessly.
Very interesting! I'm going to want to keep an eye on this.
“Here, we hear of research-based teaching models that simply cannot fail or be argued with since they are research-based.”
How true! Read “Ameritopia.” “Research,” “studies,” “modern consensus” and other like demands for progressivism are just code words for to hell with human experience & tradition and the Constitution.
It is in response to Clara Lou's assertion (post #12) that her school does not have “perverted stuff” or “leftist ( scatological metaphor) “.
Red, blue, or purple county or state, I have recently come to a decision. I consider godlessly secular, government owned and run, socialist-entitlement schooling to be so evil and such a serious threat to our nation's freedom, that I will no longer have a government teacher for a friend. That is a personal decision on my part.
Here’s a link to the story.
AZ Republic, kind of lefty. Sometimes called the LA Times East.
Somehow teachers will accept money regardless of the circumstances and rarely simply say, “No! That is not professional practice or a safe and professional environment!”
Her story rings true to me. We have to get rid of the Department of Education. Teaching would still be a leftist-dominated profession for a long time, but at least we'd have the chance for pockets of sanity in parts of the country.
“I too live in one of the reddest states, and one of the reddest counties in the nation. It does not matter. Whether red, blue, or purple, socialist schools teach children to be comfortable with socialism. Whether red, blue or purple, godlessly secular schools teach children to think and reason godlessly.”
One thing that parents often don’t know is that ‘teachers’ all come from the same college programs...the so-called “Schools of Education” in every state - they serve as the gate-keepers, keeping out people that could really teach (like scientists, engineers, and even English and History majors - instead they graduate “Education” majors, whatever that means).
So yes, the state and town might be red, but the teachers, almost to the person, are as Blue-State as they come. That’s the design of the system, which is why it has been so effective.
(and no, it’s not just my imagination again, what I just wrote is exactly what Thomas Sowell’s research has shown in his outstanding book “Inside American Education”)
I am a history teacher. I have a 4 year degree, major in history. Would be a minor in physics if they allowed that sort of thing - I did two years of a physics major before switching.
I have tutored the following subjects at both high school and college level: History, English, Math, Physics, Chemisty and Biology. I have 2 years experience teaching, and about 3 as a tutor. Used to tutor at the community college and the local high school any and all comers.
Marie-Thérèse Maurette created the framework for what would eventually become the IB Diploma Programme in 1948 when she wrote Is There a Way of Teaching for Peace?, a handbook for UNESCO. In the mid-1960s, a group of teachers from the International School of Geneva (Ecolint) created the International Schools Examinations Syndicate (ISES), which would later become the International Baccalaureate Organization (IBO). The IB headquarters were officially established in Geneva, Switzerland, in 1968 for the development and maintenance of the Diploma Programme which would "provide an internationally acceptable university admissions qualification suitable for the growing mobile population of young people whose parents were part of the world of diplomacy, international and multi-national organizations," and offer internationally standardized courses and assessments for students ages 16 to 19. International Baccalaureate North America (IBNA) was established in 1975, by Peter Nehr, International Baccalaureate Africa, Europe and Middle-East (IBAEM) was established in 1986, and International Baccalaureate Asia Pacific (IBAP) established during the same period.
Why do I not like it? Why do we need it?
"Schools of Education" should be abolished by all taxpayer-supported colleges and universities as should the requirement of an Education Degree.
A kid who wants to be a math teacher should major in Math. He should learn Math thoroughly and then take a one semester, 3 hour course on the theory of concepts and how to adapt that to lesson-planning.
Skip the indoctrination and imagine the capital we'd free up for actual economic growth.
>>Teachers in Texas are not unionized<<
So in Texas it IS the teachers?!?
Well I’ll be. I always gave teachers the benefit of the doubt.
“”Schools of Education” should be abolished by all taxpayer-supported colleges and universities as should the requirement of an Education Degree”
That is correct, Dr. Sowell.
yeah teaching 2 + 2 is much more difficult
why are teachers such whiners?
“Somehow teachers will accept money regardless of the circumstances and rarely simply say, No! That is not professional practice or a safe and professional environment!”
The reason that teachers don’t say NO!! is that they actually believe this crap. They’re incapable of thinking independently - that’s the whole point of their ‘education’.
...but then you know that.
Bathroom activities are no longer hidden, some official in Maine almost had them force kids to use uni-sex bathrooms. These leftist Godless people will NOT stop, ever.
It’s still a union in all but name
Very good point! We are living in a “Brave New World”! Bathroom activities are now uni-sex open to view of males and females, but prayer is banned or relegated to the status of “silent”.
So? What non-neutral religious lessons are being taught both in the bathroom regulations or regulations over free expression of one’s religion?
Government schooling is an abomination. It is so evil, for the children, and such a threat to our continuing freedom, in my opinion, that personally, I will not have a government teacher for a friend. I am done with them.
So in Texas it IS the teachers?!?
Sitting here laughing! :-) Very good!
Conservative public school teachers kind of reminds me of the “conservatives” in Hollywood who act in movies and programs that push a leftist agenda.
You already demonstrated your ingnorance, do you really want to advance to stupidity?
>>You already demonstrated your ingnorance, do you really want to advance to stupidity? <<
#14 Percentage of 4th-graders scoring at or above proficient in math in school year 2005 (40 percent)
#20 Percentage of 8th-graders scoring at or above proficient in math in school year 2005 (31 percent)
#35 Number of schools identified as needing improvement based on adequate yearly progress, school year 2004 (199)
#35 Percentage of 8th-graders scoring at or above proficient in reading in school year 2005 (26 percent)
#35 Percentage of 4th-graders scoring at or above proficient in reading in school year 2005 (29 percent)
#36 High school graduation rates in school year 2002 (68 percent)
#46 Average math SAT scores in school year 2005 (502)
#49 Average verbal SAT scores in school year 2005 (493)
When you are sitting at #1, which btw is mediocre compared to schools in Norway and Japan, you come and tell me about my “ingnorance” again.
High Fives, here in Va it is the same way.
Is it still like that? I’m looking for a warmer place to move.
Its how they feel about numbers that matters.
What have you personally to change that?
I agree with you, but the militant home schooling nazis will tell you it is a job and nothing more. Be ready for the assault.
We don’t have teacher’s unions in Texas like the ones in the northeast. I have a teacher’s organization that I belonged to for professional insurance. I made sure to join one that keeps all dues in Texas. It is also not affiliated with any national teacher’s union.
What, are you drunk? You’re certainly not funny.
Yes, it’s still as I described it.
I doubt that you have any friends, personally. A sanctimonious person such as yourself is insufferable.
By sending them to public schools when it was convenient for you, and then sending them to community (Public state funded) colleges, which you also attended. You need to tell the whole truth.
Let me ask you a question Why is it you will support the anti Catholics as long as they are home schoolers, but you won'(Refuse out right) to defend the Catholic Church against their bigoted attacks.
And before you ask I will feel free to respond to any and every single post of yours that I feel needs to be corrected, so don;'t even both asking me not to respond to you.
I’ve only heard of CSCOPE, and nothing complementary, by the way. I’m glad to be out of it. Teaching is like being caught in a C-clamp that is being tightened more each year.
Would you mind sharing the county or location? PM me if you like.
You are 100% correct, now be prepared for wintertime to rain his wrath down upon you. He always tends to make these extreme comments and then has to back down from them when he is called on his bizarre "facts"
>>but the militant home schooling nazis <<
Anyone who calls another FReeper a nazi loses the debate.
Only if it is an inaccurate description, if it is accurate it is counted as an automatic win. Also notice that I did not refer to a specific person, do you have a guilty conscience?
Thanks for the clarification.
Having read the article I found this info at the bottom. It pretty much locks the Teacher into being the one who has to enter the information on each student:
What is Eduphoria?
Eduphoria is an online software ECISD uses district-wide. The program allows teachers to input student exams into the program and it identifies exactly which strategies the student is struggling with. It also has a lesson plan component where ECISD teachers must enter their lessons, explain which state assessment is taught and how the teacher would alter any given lesson if something goes wrong.
What is CSCOPE?
CSCOPE is a web-based lesson plan software program. It provides the time sequence needed for teachers on when to teach lessons as required by the state standards and how long to spend on each lesson. The lessons provide units, exams and projects for teachers of every grade level. The district currently uses CSCOPE only for mathematics and science.
Additionally, I particularly liked this bit of gobbledygook (Administrator Quinitela's) response to the Teacher's complaint:
"Quinitela said the school was redefining its path and focus through new programs he believed in and the district was doing nothing wrong with its expectations."
I suspect that if you follow the money, you will find that there were some significant greasing of palms when the Organization/Company that sold this software to the Texas School System promised that it would (using flowery PHD level words): "maximize learning, minimize effort, empower students, teachers and parents, illuminate shortfalls in the existing learning process, yadda, yadda, yadda."
I also suspect that the administrators/local experts on the new software systems attended minimalist indoctrination/introduction classes, and can't answer/resolve the questions/needs of the Teachers saddled with this new White Elephant, resulting in lots of "Administrator gobbledygook talk masking their lack of knowledge (and lack of real interest).
Unfortunately, I saw such situations too many times while working for the Federal Government.
Probably time for some quality teachers to start up some small private shools (the modern equivalent of Texas prarieschools of olden times). With the low cost technology available today I suspect it would be amazing what would happen (think small business homeschool approaches).
In many areas of the country, particularly those areas that are close to concentrated Democrat parasite nests (”cities”), it is akin to child abuse to send children into the government schools. In such areas parents who love their children should homeschool them, no matter how great the inconvenience.
In places where the majority of people are normal and decent, it is still critical that parents debrief their children after school to find out what the teachers may be feeding them. This, too, is an inconvenience but it’s something that loving parents must do regularly.
My doctor is closed for a month for Christmas.
My orthodontist when younger shut the office down for a week for Thanksgiving, two weeks for Christmas, and numerous weeks in summer.
Many people who don’t take vacation do so by choice and rack up months of time off but are just workaholics or afraid of getting fired for taking some time off to enjoy life.
Your ignorance was in blaming a non-existent union.
Your stupidity is pointing your finger, without any knowledge to back it up, at a particular group. Texas sufffers from top down imposition of theory and practices developed by the liberal education ruling class of the north. They are also saddled with the burden of one of the highest percentage of illegal immigrants/children of illegal immigrants. A problem promulgated by the Federal Government, not the education system in Texas. Tasking teachers to educate students whose parents don't care is a task in futility.
Refering directly to the article that you so ignorantly commented on, demonstrates how administrators seek to improve education by sticking teachers behind computers at the cost of preperation and instructional time. Teachers cannot be held responsible for imposed stupidity. Between the push for technology and profligate spending by administrations on non instructional material, school systems are saddled with bug riddled software that does not deliver, increases the time demands on teachers and impedes progress. The article references two examples, however most school districts have the same disease under different names.
In the early 90's a commission headed by Ross Perot, comprised mainly of non-educational professionals developed a plan for Texas which created a meteoric rise in performce through the decade. Unfortunaley, increased Federal involvement and control of funding has resulted in Administrations populated with "elite educators" who have zero experience in actual instruction. Coupled with the increased burdens of illegals, they have produced a steady decline in performance since the end of the 90's.
Sighting a few statistics may indicate a limited level of research. However, you had already demonstrated your ignorance by blaming a union that doesn't exist. You then moved on to stupidty by castigating teachers without possessing any of the salient background information. Sighting global metrics to indict the least empowered element of the system doesn't change that.