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Rand Paul’s Pat-Down Standoff With TSA in Nashville Ends
ABC News ^ | Jan 23, 2012 10:33am | Sunlen Miller

Posted on 01/23/2012 3:06:21 PM PST by Texas Fossil

By Sunlen Miller @sunlenmiller

Rand Paul’s Pat-Down Standoff With TSA in Nashville Ends

Sen. Rand Paul told his communications director this morning he was being detained by TSA at the Nashville airport.

The Twitter account associated with Paul staffer Moira Bagley, @moirabagley, tweeted around 10 a.m., ET, “Just got a call from @senrandpaul. He’s currently being detained by TSA in Nashville.”

A TSA spokesman disputed that Paul was ever “detained.” But he was not granted access to the secure area of the airport when he tried to board a flight Monday morning.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nashville; patdown; randpaul; tsa
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To: Texas Fossil
TSA = The Sanduskying of America.
21 posted on 01/23/2012 3:55:23 PM PST by mkjessup (I support the *NEWTerizer* - the only candidate who WILL Kick 0bama's AZZ!!)
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To: theDentist

He was held incommunicado for an hour and a half and missed business in Congress. Sounds like an arrest to me.


22 posted on 01/23/2012 3:55:58 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: glorgau

The congress and the president created this system, let them submit themselves to it like their fellow citizens do.


23 posted on 01/23/2012 3:57:14 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: John Semmens

All sorts of good material here.


24 posted on 01/23/2012 3:57:35 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Borax Queen
and they want to form a union. Hopefully they'll be disbanded soon under Newt or who ever gets it and private companies come in with ex marines etc who know the score about security. I saw a photo on here once which had an elderly nun , a nun of all people being searched by a muslim lady. Now correct me if i am wrong but elderly nuns are not much of a threat but I am betting this muslim woman stopped the nun for spite.
25 posted on 01/23/2012 3:58:15 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Texas Fossil
What about immunity for normal arrest when on Senate business.

On another thread about this, a poster wrote that Rand Paul typically "dresses down" when traveling, so that he isn't as recognizable. I'm curious if he even identified himself as a US Senator, and if anyone at the TSA checkpoint was knowledgeable enough to recognize him or even his name.

Even the TSA is smart enough to realize the political fallout from harassing a US Senator. They got a huge black eye back in 2004 because Ted Kennedy was stopped repeatedly because he had a name similar to "T. Kennedy" on the secret "no-fly" list. I believe it eventually led to the "redress number" system where you can get certification that you aren't the person on the no-fly list, even though you have the same name.

BTW, there is a similar law in Texas. Every legislative session, the Texas Dept. of Public Safety issued a "blue card" to every Texas legislator. It identified them as someone that the DPS should not detain. I don't know if other law enforcement agencies honored it.

However, I don't think the DPS issues it any longer. There were some abuses of the card years ago, and I think a legislator that was DWI went on to be involved in a serious accident after the DPS didn't detain him. But, I may be misremembering it....

26 posted on 01/23/2012 4:08:24 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Texas Fossil

Sorry, did I say that. I meant the current jerk.


27 posted on 01/23/2012 4:09:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: theDentist
None. He could have left the airport any time he wished.

Not according to the TSA. They claim that once you submit to the screening, you must complete it.

What really happens when you refuse: they call local law enforcement. You wait until they get there. Then, local law enforcement escorts you back to the non-secured area.

The TSA has no authority to detain you, but they do. The cops know this, and that's why you leave immediately after they arrive.

28 posted on 01/23/2012 4:13:30 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: All; theDentist
I read earlier Senator Paul had already been through the body scanner. This was an effort to grope him too.

For those curious, Article I, Section 6, Clause 1:

...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony, and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their attendance at the Session of their Respective Houses, and in going to and from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

29 posted on 01/23/2012 4:14:18 PM PST by newzjunkey (a FL win returns Romney to the "inevitability" path... do the right thing, Rick!)
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To: Texas Fossil
"A TSA spokesman disputed that Paul was ever “detained.”

Liars. They denied strip searching two elderly women, then were forced to admit they had wrongly strip frisked them. Frickin' a-holes.

30 posted on 01/23/2012 4:15:12 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: theDentist
He wasn’t arrested.

Let's just say you and I have a different definition of "arrested" and leave it at that.

31 posted on 01/23/2012 4:17:10 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: theDentist
And he’s not above the rest of us when it means getting on public air transportation.

Whatever.

NONE OF US should put up with this crap!

32 posted on 01/23/2012 4:19:02 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: theDentist

Yes he is. He, in the course of his duty when the Senate is in session, cannot be detained from travelling to and from the Senate. It was placed in the Constitution to prevent people using LEOs to keep lesgislators from appearing to vote. In the course of doing their constitutional duty, they are different.Rand Paul was stopped from entering the secure area and was prevented from leaving the area with the detectors.


33 posted on 01/23/2012 4:19:23 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: Texas Fossil; theDentist; Locomotive Breath

Arrest means to stop.

(See: Arresting cable, arrested development)


34 posted on 01/23/2012 4:23:58 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Texas Fossil

If only he was as wise as Maj. ______ DeCoverley in the mess hall when confronted with such nonsense. /obscure


35 posted on 01/23/2012 4:29:51 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

So if a cop arrests me, I can turn around and go home, right?

My point is, he needs to undergo the same searches as the rest of us if he wants to get on an airliner.


36 posted on 01/23/2012 4:36:58 PM PST by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist
U.S. Constitution

Section 6

1: The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.6 They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

37 posted on 01/23/2012 4:38:52 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: newzjunkey

Technically it might not apply because he was going back to attend the March for Life rally and give a speech.


38 posted on 01/23/2012 4:40:35 PM PST by Fledermaus (I can't fiddle so I'll just open a cold beer as I watch America burn.)
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To: newzjunkey

Very clear, you beat me to it.


39 posted on 01/23/2012 4:42:42 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Fledermaus
be privileged from Arrest...and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

It is a clear violation.

40 posted on 01/23/2012 4:46:13 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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