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Gingrich Threatens to Skip Debates if Audiences Canít Participate [another NY Slimes lie]
NYT ^ | Tuesday January 24, 2012 | Gingrich Threatens to Skip Debates if Audiences Canít Participate

Posted on 01/24/2012 8:21:28 AM PST by Bigtigermike

Newt Gingrich insists his fans will not be silenced.

Mr. Gingrich, a former House speaker, on Tuesday morning threatened not participate in any future debates with audiences that have been instructed to be silent. That was the case on Monday, when Brian Williams of NBC News asked the audience of about 500 people who assembled for a debate in Tampa to hold their applause until the commercial breaks.

In an interview with the morning show “Fox and Friends,” Mr. Gingrich said NBC’s rules amounted to stifling free speech. In what has become a standard line of attack for his anti-establishment campaign, Mr. Gingrich blamed the media for trying to silence a dissenting point of view.

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1 posted on 01/24/2012 8:21:37 AM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

I thought it made for a more professional debate. No screaming or interrupting the speakers. I guess if Newt must bow out of the debates, then you must do what you must do. He will be missed. He is the only entertaining one in the group that much is for sure.


2 posted on 01/24/2012 8:23:34 AM PST by napscoordinator (Go Newt! Go Patriots (America's Team)! America's is going the right direction in 2012!!!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Using populism against the media.
Lovin’ it.


3 posted on 01/24/2012 8:24:04 AM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Bigtigermike

Brian Williams: OK then they can applaud when Gov Romney speaks

Do I need the /s ???


4 posted on 01/24/2012 8:25:28 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bigtigermike

bad move to demand an audience.. he is always bragging on himself as a superior debater.. if he is such a great debater then he should be more than willing to debate anyone anywhere with or without an audience


5 posted on 01/24/2012 8:27:44 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: napscoordinator

With due respect, you could not be more wrong. It did not make for a more “professional” debate. It made for an awkward little food fight where the enemy - liberals in Obama’s administration and the media -were ignored.

The passion of the Republican base IS A LEGIT part of this election, and to “remove” that passion artificially actually made for a phony debate, not a real one.

Moreover, if Newt skips the debate, so will the viewers. He will not “be missed.” The debate will “be missed” because few would watch it. IT’s like TV ratings for a golf tournament without Tiger Woods. Zero.


6 posted on 01/24/2012 8:27:44 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Bigtigermike

Sorry, Newt is wrong on this one. This isn’t a town meeting, its a Presidential debate. Now we are going to have every primary and general election debate be a clap fest with the candidates packing the audience. Yuck.


7 posted on 01/24/2012 8:28:10 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: Bigtigermike

It was a boring debate. If the audience can’t participate, then why have an audience? Newt is right.


8 posted on 01/24/2012 8:28:18 AM PST by vortigern
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To: Tennessee Nana

I don’t think his saying this was such a good idea. It makes him sound petulant.


9 posted on 01/24/2012 8:29:23 AM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

agree NBC did this on purpose to take Newt out and so the crowd would not cheer when Newt called the idiotic bias liberal Williams out.

It has to be the most pathetic boring debate I have seen and boy there has been some awful debates.

All Williams wanted was for Romney to attack Newt and not let Newt go back after him and bring up the MSM messiah.

Pathetic questions, pathetic debate and the crowd should have just ignored Williams and that dozy local so called reporter


10 posted on 01/24/2012 8:31:06 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: dinoparty

I’ve got no interest in winners being chosen by applause meter.


11 posted on 01/24/2012 8:31:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bigtigermike

If the audience must remain silent, why even have an audience? Hold a debate on the “The Five” set on Fox News, with one moderator and four candidates sitting around the table.


12 posted on 01/24/2012 8:31:37 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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To: Bigtigermike

Great. /s
This means Romney will challenge Newt to 7 3-hour debates with no audience.


13 posted on 01/24/2012 8:32:06 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: dinoparty

It’s a party primary debate. its supposed to be about activists and the base.

If we aren’t part of it, then you might as well not have one.


14 posted on 01/24/2012 8:32:32 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Bigtigermike

State-Run Media will just see to it the audience is filled with Occupy Wall Street and Move-on dot org people.


15 posted on 01/24/2012 8:32:36 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: dinoparty

It’s a party primary debate. its supposed to be about activists and the base.

If we aren’t part of it, then you might as well not have one.


16 posted on 01/24/2012 8:33:01 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Bigtigermike

Lead Newt, lead! It’s like being told not to cheer at a football game.


17 posted on 01/24/2012 8:33:42 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
bad move to demand an audience.. he is always bragging on himself as a superior debater.. if he is such a great debater then he should be more than willing to debate anyone anywhere with or without an audience

Normally, I think he would, but this isn't really about whether there is an audience or not. It's about whether there is an audience that will be heard cheering his smackdowns of the media for negativity and protecting Obama, or not.
18 posted on 01/24/2012 8:34:36 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: napscoordinator

More professional, perhaps, but dead boring.

I literally fell asleep, and I’m a political wonk.


19 posted on 01/24/2012 8:34:51 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: southernnorthcarolina
is that awful show called the five still on.? How on earth can anyone watch a guy who thinks he is funny, an establishment RINO like Perino, the angry bitter druggie, alcoholic perverted Beckel and Tantaros who is become more and more of an establishment. Only Bolling is worth watching but he is cancelled out by the other idiots on there including Kilmeade when I saw him once. I am actually surprised if that show is on if it is.
20 posted on 01/24/2012 8:35:05 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Commanding the audience to sit on their hands to avoid standing ovations or other signs that Americans are sick of the media attack debates on Republicans was stupid.

Ron Paul got several moments of big applause anyway; were all those clappers taken out back and shot?? What NBC meant was, no clapping for Gingrich.

But Newt was definitely not thinking to pout for his applause this morning. That is pointing out one of his huge personality deficits to the world: that one of his big motivations in this contest and in life is for love and adoration. We want a solid, strong, self-assured Newt that would debate before even a roomful of paralyzed veterans with poise, facts, and confidence.


21 posted on 01/24/2012 8:35:16 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: southernnorthcarolina

I think the Huckabee forum format is a winner.


22 posted on 01/24/2012 8:35:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: napscoordinator

It’s a debate! There is supposed to be noise. If the noise is so offensive or such a problem, then tape the darn thing and get rid of the audience all together? Why have a live audience at all?


23 posted on 01/24/2012 8:35:54 AM PST by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: napscoordinator

I feel the same way, I find it disrespectful that the audience can interrupt whoever may be talking in the debates, especially since they have a time limit to answer and/or respond. This is for the position of the presidency not a freaking game show..


24 posted on 01/24/2012 8:36:09 AM PST by hannibaal
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To: cripplecreek

Maybe the audience is applauding what they like.

If it was just all phony then they would be applauding everything.

If mitt and rick said anything great they would get the applauses.


25 posted on 01/24/2012 8:36:28 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Bigtigermike; All
Listen to the video to hear Newt's exact words. The headline is not accurate.
26 posted on 01/24/2012 8:37:13 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (#withNewt))
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To: Bigtigermike

Last night’s debate was the dullest by far. Why have an audience at all if they are not offered the chance to ask questions or a few opportunities to applaud? Why not just have the stage, the imperious moderators and bunch of potted plants?

The rules last night were to protect Brian Williams, so he could without embarrassment steer the debate away from Obama without any audible objections from those pesky commoners who insist on not being liberal. I hope future debate audiences show the leftist media that we will not be silenced by them.


27 posted on 01/24/2012 8:38:05 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: VanDeKoik

Exactly Van! The people at home like us, watching it on tv, get a huge boost out of seeing the people in the audience responding to the lies and supporting the good guy! It’s a very important part of the process. These candidates have microphone access 24/7 so it is not critical that every single syllable they say is heard ....but how the people in the audience feel is critical,,the debate is for the people!


28 posted on 01/24/2012 8:38:40 AM PST by austinaero (Obama or America - can't have both)
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To: Bigtigermike
We will no longer be called the “Silent Majority”, we will be heard and the Lame Stream Media will hear us.
29 posted on 01/24/2012 8:39:06 AM PST by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: Jedidah

i take it if a comedy show doesnt have a laugh track then you dont laugh? You shouldnt give a flying fck what the audience thinks and applaud to yourself on which positions you agree with. I dont know about the rest of the people here, but the only opinion that matters to me is my own.


30 posted on 01/24/2012 8:39:15 AM PST by hannibaal
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To: napscoordinator
I agree that no audience reactions (or perhaps even no audience) does allow people watching on TV (or listening) to form their own opinions without influence.

Does it make for more entertaining TV? No, but it shouldn't be about entertainment. If we're to take debates seriously in determining our nominee, I'm all in favor of negating distractions.

31 posted on 01/24/2012 8:39:38 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Bigtigermike
Audience applause was never an issue until Newt got three historic standing ovations.

I'd much rather see the audience's real-time reaction rather than Luntz's post debate survey.

Back to what many have said, there is no reason to have an audience if they aren't allowed to react.

32 posted on 01/24/2012 8:39:42 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane
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To: cripplecreek

Newt should be able to handle any debate format. They’re not going to want to help Newt and it gives the impression that they’ve found a weakness.


33 posted on 01/24/2012 8:39:51 AM PST by ari-freedom (If SOPA passes, we will lose our Free Republic.)
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To: manc

The media, being in the tank for Romney who will help them re-elect obama, would probably rather have Newt miss the debate. I think this is a strategy by Newt that will bring a degree of scrunity to this and he will participate and have audience participation.


34 posted on 01/24/2012 8:39:51 AM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: vortigern

I’d rather hear what they have to say rather than feel like I’m at a Jets game, honestly.


35 posted on 01/24/2012 8:39:54 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: freedomlover
Using populism against the media.

If he does this, he will not get the nomination. That behavior would be like pouting, or taking his toys and going home. He quit on us when he was Speaker of the House. I'd hoped he had developed beyond that sort of thing.

Then we'd be stuck with Romney; and, I won't cast a vote for him, Obama not withstanding.

36 posted on 01/24/2012 8:39:56 AM PST by GingisK
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To: VanDeKoik

If they allow applause on Thursday night, watch for competition between the Paulites and Gingrich people.

Who needs politics and policy when there’s a riot in the back of the room?


37 posted on 01/24/2012 8:40:08 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
he is always bragging on himself as a superior debater..

No he isn't. In the victory speech after the SC win, he pointedly said just the opposite.

38 posted on 01/24/2012 8:40:43 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Some people need an audience because they take cues from audience reaction to know what direction to steer conversation or debate.

People who speak from the heart don’t have to do this - they are driven by inner conviction and conscience. It can be narcissistic trait.


39 posted on 01/24/2012 8:40:47 AM PST by justsaynomore
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To: napscoordinator
I thought it made for a more professional debate. No screaming or interrupting the speakers.

I agree.

It actually was better to have the debate without the interruptive Ra Ra Pep Rally each time a candidate responded to a question.

The debate is to elicit candidate responses, not elicit populist hoopla from the audience.

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Gingrich complaining about the debate format is reminiscent of Gingrich complaining about setting at the back of AF1 when Clinton was president:



Conservatives are trying to sell the 'angry Newt.' While it may be cutzie now for the Newtbots, it won't be in the general election.
40 posted on 01/24/2012 8:41:00 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: hannibaal

You need to learn to read. I didn’t say I wanted audience reaction, just that last night’s debate was dead boring without it.

Frankly, I agree with all you said, except for the nasty language and bad attitude. Clean it up if you want to be taken seriously.


41 posted on 01/24/2012 8:43:17 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: Bigtigermike
The various “Pravda's” don't like disruptions to the parties approved plans.
42 posted on 01/24/2012 8:43:29 AM PST by mongo141
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To: Bigtigermike

¨We, the People....¨

Sigh.


43 posted on 01/24/2012 8:44:16 AM PST by onedoug
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To: hannibaal

The fact of the matter is nothing really happened last night to deserve much applause.

All the chidding in the world wont keep an audience from responding if something amazing happens.

And since Newt is now in the lead, a dull debate where nothing much happens = Newt wins.

Romney has to make something happen, if nothing happens, Newt wins.


44 posted on 01/24/2012 8:44:33 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Mistake by Mr. Gingrich. His SC debate and subsequent win had nothing to do with the audience, it was the power of his words.

Gingrich/Santorum 2012
Santorum/Rubio 2018


45 posted on 01/24/2012 8:44:56 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Bigtigermike; All

Really not sure if this is a smart move. Now everybody else will start disallowing clapping so Gingrich won’t participate!

This could backfire on him. Calling for participation is fine, but to threaten to not debate is silly...


46 posted on 01/24/2012 8:46:16 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Jim Robinson; holdonnow

I was about to respond, read your comments and thought I wrote it myself.......

what conservatives need to know is the God given opportunity just handed to them.

Of over 7 billion on our planet, the only enemies of one Newt Gingrich reside in Congress and are from his own party.

Let that just sink in a minute

.......if ever there was a time to purge congress of those POS rinos it is now and it is NEWT.

Upon election Newt would have 3 years to battle and expose the country club swine all the while the united Tea Party front exampled by the likes of Tea Party Tribune, United West.org etc etc. would find, fund and front line candidates for conservative perusal.

As to a game plan, a measured known outcome, and saving conservatism,we have a God given plan

I call it providence


47 posted on 01/24/2012 8:46:39 AM PST by advertising guy (piss on the media like a Marine !)
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To: Jedidah

The applause is based on politics and policy that is being discussed. Newt isn’t just yawning and people start clapping.

I doubt there will be a fight between people. It’s just clapping.


48 posted on 01/24/2012 8:46:48 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: dinoparty

“Sorry, Newt is wrong on this one. This isn’t a town meeting, its a Presidential debate. Now we are going to have every primary and general election debate be a clap fest with the candidates packing the audience. Yuck.”

Your point is very well taken.

But if it hadn’t been for “the cheering in South Carolina”, Newt might not have turned things around so decisively in the short time he had to do so. Like it or not, it was those who _watched_ the debate, heard the cheering, and perhaps had their logic jostled by it, who went to the polls and made the difference.

Newt has stated his thoughts on this quite well — that is, the media has no monopoly on free speech and the ability to express it.

By controlling audience response, guys like Brian Williams (and the guys behind him) are trying to control the atmosphere and tenor of the arguments. It’s like the old “Outer Limits” intro — “sit quietly, and WE will control what you see and hear.”

Newt shouldn’t have said he’d skip the debates, though. He should wait until the issue comes up again -IN- one of the debates, and then use it right then and there as a “teachable moment of truth” before the audience that is watching. To wit, the response should be something like “No, Mr. Williams, I will not accede to your demands that the audience not respond to the candidates, because for too long Americans have been told to take what government gives them and keep quiet about it!”

If the mainstream media is so out-of-joint that a conservative candidate could rouse a debate audience into cheering during a broadcast, perhaps they should only have future debates in a studio with only cameras, moderators and WITHOUT an “audience”.

Otherwise, I’d tell ‘em right on camera to go to hell.

Folks, cheer away!


49 posted on 01/24/2012 8:47:11 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: ari-freedom

Oh yeah, the media isn’t going to miss their chance.

Imagine how they would use it in a debate between Gingrich and Obama. Standing O for everything Obama says and a cricket chirping at everything Gingrich says.


50 posted on 01/24/2012 8:47:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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