Romney and Obama: Nearly Idendtical On global Warming and Coal Powered Plants

Big Government ^ | 1/24/12 | AWR Hawkins

[Nachum]

After looking over GOP speeches from this primary cycle, especially those wherein Mitt Romney stated (and restated) his belief in man-made global warming, it occurred to me that many of his positions sound eerily familiar, if not strikingly similar, to those held by President Barack Obama. And after looking more closely, it was interesting to set statements from the two side by side and see how little difference there actually is between them on environmental issues.

First of all, as I alluded to above, they both believe in man-made global warming. For example, during the 2008 president debates Obama said, “I think that the climate change issue is the most serious environmental issue that we face.” And in between the time he was elected president in November 2008 and the time he was sworn into office in January 2009, he voiced his belief that man-made global warming was taking a serious toll on the earth:

Few challenges facing America – and the world – are more urgent than combating global climate change. The science is beyond dispute and the facts are clear. Sea levels are rising. Coast lines are shrinking. We’ve seen record drought spreading famine, and storms that are growing stronger with each passing hurricane season.

[WOBBLY BOB]

[FrankR]

[Da Coyote]

Further proof of why both undoubtedly avoided even simpleton (e.g., Bill Maher level) courses involving science.

After all, who’d want Fs on their transcripts? (Even on Obama’s carefully hidden transcripts...)

[Tulane]

And Newt Gingrich...who sat on the couch with Nancy Pelosi...is different how?

[bgill]

Mitt is Hussein lite.

[pasr]

Romney is so moderate he puts me to sleep..... His policy plans are same old same old...... nothing new just trimming the edges... his tax plan less than bold conservative more like ultra moderate

[yoe]

What most conservatives including the Tea Party is against...The GOP Establishment RINOS. Romney will provide the same old political BS....he is the same old BS - most of America is sick and tired of the "for yourself political mahem in Washington, D.C. and the rest of Bureaucratic morass governming our nation.

GO NEWT - GO SANTORUM - NO TO OBAMA!

[Tennessee Nana]

Romney never met an opinion of Obamas on any issue that he didnt like..

[alloysteel]

Global warming does not occur by the mechanisms that are claimed for it, specifically, anything that involves carbon dioxide.

Global warming MAY occur, if there is a greater absorption of heat from the sun, OR if internal heat of the earth escapes to the hydrosphere and atmosphere that covers the surface, via volcanoes, geysers, undersea geothermal heat vents, or simple conduction of heat up through the rocky mantle that covers earth’s molten core.

As for the amount of heat energy that comes from the sun, a rather simple mechanism explains why runaway heat absorption cannot occur. It is called water vapor, a highly variable component of the atmosphere, and serves to keep the planetary temperatures within a relatively narrow range. Water becomes solid at zero degrees Centigrade, and in doing so, releases an enormous amount of heat, heat that is reabsorbed when ice once again becomes liquid water. Water vapor can come directly from ice, by a process known as sublimnation, which is why your ice cubes disappear in the freezer. When water is heated, it generates more and more water vapor, until it passes the critical temperature of one hundred degrees Centigrade. The very warm newly formed water vapor is lighter than the surrounding atmosphere, so it rises, becoming clouds at very high altitudes, all the while radiating their excess heat energy, which passes off into space. But in the process of becoming water vapor, the water molecules absorb a huge amount of heat, cooling down the locality from which the water vapor originated. For as long as there is water, the temperature of the point where it is is changing from liquid to vapor, shall not exceed one hundred degrees Centigrade. Only when the entire planetary supply of water is turned to water vapor, will anything like runaway global warming be even possible.

But the water vapor keeps screwing up this linear progression, as it releases its heat to outer space and condenses back to liquid water, now heavier than the other components of the atmosphere, and it falls back to earth, cooling off the heated surfaces. Thus it will never be possible for the solar radiation to ever entirely vaporize the entire planetary supply of liquid water.

Well, maybe if the sun goes nova, then the planetary supply of water will be among the least of our problems. I do not see that as any imminent threat, and I have not the least idea of what we could do about the situation should it arise.

[null and void]

RMNEY

[A'elian' nation]

I’d like to ask the both of them when was the last time airlines had to re-direct flight routes due to global warming?

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/23/planes-rerouted-fearing-strongest-radiation-storm-in-7-years/

[EyeGuy]

So what SPECIFICALLY would be used to replace the huge number of reliable killowatts generated by King Coal?

[gman992]

Didn’t Newt write a book about global warming, but then pulled the chapter? As the Republican establishment, Newt is the Republican establishment—having been there since 1978.

[Roninf5-1]

Newt is just another global warming, open borders, free trade, Federal Reserve supporting DC Globalist Insider funded by Billionaires.

Newt Gingrich: I supported Rockefeller over Goldwater

So-called conservatives, otherwise known as the world's easiest marks, will vote for him anyway because he has an R next to his name, just like they voted for that other Globalist DC Insider Juan McLame.

Millions of so-called conservatives voted for this man. (The one on the left)

[marsh2]

National Fish, Wildlife and Plants Climate Adaptation Strategy, http://www.wildlifeadaptationstrategy.gov/pdf/public_review_draft.pdf (A comprehensive strategy to massively enlarge protection of habitat and connectivity corridors through federal and state acquisition, conservation easements, set asides and prohibitive regulation of private property rights.)

Connected with WaterSMART - WaterSMART - (Sustain and Manage America’s Resources for Tomorrow) The developing adaptation strategies to counter the impacts of climate change on water resources. Secure Water Act http://users.sisqtel.net/armstrng/Info_Secure_Water_Act.pdf

Go here about 1/2 way down the page to view all the initiatives the Obama Administration has initiated in the name of “Climate Change.” It is ALARMING! http://users.sisqtel.net/armstrng/agenda21.htm

[ArrogantBustard]

So what SPECIFICALLY would be used to replace the huge number of reliable killowatts generated by King Coal?

Unicorn Poop and Fairy Dust.

But seriously ... burning neutrons is as reliable as burning King Coal. Any US "energy policy" that doesn't rely heavily on nukes and coal is insane.

[EyeGuy]

Yeah, I didn’t even have good old nukes on the radar, because I know, for the idiot Enviro Commissars they have even more cooties than coal, or for that matter, black gold....Texas Tea.

[bksanders]