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'Birther' lawyer doesn't expect to see Obama
The Daily Report ^ | Tuesday, January 24, 2012 | Mark Niesse

Posted on 01/24/2012 11:14:17 AM PST by SteveH

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To: butterdezillion

My guess is that Barry’s attorney will walk into the Thurs hearing with the motion to quash in his hand. They can probably file it with the clerk before the hearing starts. If the judge grants the motion Barry is off the hook. He does not have to appear.


41 posted on 01/24/2012 2:03:36 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Barack and Michelle have long been disbarred.

WRONG! Both Michelle and Barack "voluntarily" gave up their law licenses. Although it is true that Barack's Bar Application would no longer stand scrutiny because he denied having been known by another name or alias ... which all now know to be a falsehood. He also denied any traffic violations, when he had a slew of unpaid parking tickets in MA. Both are big NO-NOs in the lawyer thing. Michelle got caught in an insurance fraud ... mitigating circumstance was that it looked like the client lied to her.

But neither of them have actually been disbarred and may be actually free to re-apply. Michelle might have a chance. The Mombasa MF, none.

42 posted on 01/24/2012 2:05:56 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: SteveH
......do more harm than good

I love that woman and want to give her all due credit for perseverance ... BUUUUUUUT

43 posted on 01/24/2012 2:08:08 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: DiogenesLamp

Your exposition of the circumstances of their former Bar Affiliation is much more detailed and accurate than mine.

Thanx.


44 posted on 01/24/2012 2:12:33 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Kenny Bunk

Parking tickets don’t usually count as traffic (”moving”) violations.


45 posted on 01/24/2012 2:46:50 PM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Great stuff....hope Newt is aware of this and will use it, if necessary.


46 posted on 01/24/2012 2:56:29 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: butterdezillion
“If Obama would have the person who supposedly picked up the long-forms from the HDOH testify as a witness, present a paper certified copy of a long-form, and vouch for its chain of custody, would either Taitz or Hatfield have the opportunity to give reasons why it it not acceptable as prima facie evidence?”

IIRC the person who went to HI was Obama’s Perkns Coie personal attorney, an officer of the court, of course.

All of behavior of the lawyers in this trip to HI to get the BC and then Bauer being present and making excuses when the the WH Comm Dir. refuses to even let Obama HOLD the alleged LFBC from HI betrays “consciousness of guilt” as in being guilty of trying to pass off a forgery as an original.

If all of these White House lawyers and Obama’s personal lawyers both know the LFBC is forged they could lose their law licenses if they dared to perpetrate a “fraud on the tribunal” by placing the LFBC in evidence.

Given the colossal screw-up of failing to flatten the pdf file before putting it up on the WH server, would you, as a hugely successful lawyer, risk all for Obama and his Chicago clowns?

Now the behavior of the lawyers in NOT refiling to quash or even hinting that they are prepared to produce Obama’s LFBC in GA reinforces my suspicions that they are desperate to AVOID producing the “certified original HI-obtained LFBC” into evidence.

47 posted on 01/24/2012 3:05:05 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Plummz
This from the Bar App:

49. Have you ever been charged with a traffic violation involving felonious conduct or the use or possession of alcohol or drugs or which resulted in time spent in custody, a fine of $200 or more, or the revocation or suspension of your driver's license?
51. Do you have any outstanding parking violations?
In response to question 49 & 51, the Respondent answered "no."

Parking violations by the Mombasa MF exceeded the reporting threshold. Ask your attorney in regard to the serious nature of this clear evasion of the truth on the APP.

Attorneys do not lightly surrender their membership in the bar ... even if they do not intend to practice. His untruthful answers to the questions regarding drug use, the use of an alias, and traffic violations are ... and make no mistake about it .... would have been quite enough to have him severely sanctioned, perhaps even disbarred. He won't be back.

48 posted on 01/24/2012 3:10:16 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Kenny Bunk
WRONG! Both Michelle and Barack "voluntarily" gave up their law licenses.

It isn't "voluntary" when you are under duress. Both were facing suspension and quit rather than be fired. The defacto distinction is trivial.

Although it is true that Barack's Bar Application would no longer stand scrutiny because he denied having been known by another name or alias ... which all now know to be a falsehood. He also denied any traffic violations, when he had a slew of unpaid parking tickets in MA. Both are big NO-NOs in the lawyer thing. Michelle got caught in an insurance fraud ... mitigating circumstance was that it looked like the client lied to her.

Did you not even read my comment? You left out the biggest no-no. Felony Drug usage. Follow that link in my comment and you'll see 10 pages of discussion with other links covering the issue.

I believe Pamela Geller has more information about why Michelle was given the choice of give it up or face disbarment. Back when I studied the issue I found plenty of evidence which demonstrates that this is the case, and it had something to do with her time working for the Mayor of Chicago.

49 posted on 01/24/2012 3:17:38 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Seizethecarp
“If Obama would have the person who supposedly picked up the long-forms from the HDOH testify as a witness, present a paper certified copy of a long-form, and vouch for its chain of custody, would either Taitz or Hatfield have the opportunity to give reasons why it it not acceptable as prima facie evidence?”

We always wind up back at "Square 1." What the HIDOH gave the Perkins Coie Attorney was NOT a certified copy of an original Birth Certificate. It was an ABSTRACT of "data on file" at the HIDOH.

Obviously what happened then is that the WH tried to "dress it up" by cutting it and pasting into a document that looked more like a Birth Certificate. Kind of a DIY Birth Certificate.

Had a "Certified Copy of a Birth Certificate" been available, it could have been over-nighted to the WH for $35. The difference between a certified copy and an abstract of data on file? Ask a real estate broker, a DMV Title Clerk, a bank loan officer, a lawyer.

Sheriff Joe gets it. The MSM doesn't want to. The oddest thing? All of the BC's fake or not, identify the father as a non-citizen.

50 posted on 01/24/2012 3:21:53 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Kenny Bunk
Your exposition of the circumstances of their former Bar Affiliation is much more detailed and accurate than mine.

I had gotten into it pretty deep with those guys.

Thanx.

No problem.

51 posted on 01/24/2012 3:28:42 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
It isn't "voluntary" when you are under duress. Both were facing suspension and quit rather than be fired. The defacto distinction is trivial.

Having "voluntarily" (heh-heh) surrendered their licenses, rather than take the hit of disbarrment is a huge break that attorney's give each other. The disbarred lawyer is usually SOL on getting other, related work, such as President of the US. The "volunteer" might not be.
And I already apologized for missing your excellent post on the subject and did note the drug beef on subsequent comments. Sorry, I actually didn't notice your post! Happens.

Thanks again.

52 posted on 01/24/2012 3:29:30 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Kenny Bunk

Thanks for confirming that the bar application, like everything else, regards traffic and parking violations as wholly separate matters.


53 posted on 01/24/2012 3:31:42 PM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Kenny Bunk
“All of the BC’s fake or not, identify the father as a non-citizen.”

Yes, and as of today his father's identity and citizenship are “facts not in evidence” (I object!)

Actually, I object to the fact that these ARE STILL facts not in evidence...probably by design as part of the multi-layered legal defense of his ineligibility by both blood and soil!

54 posted on 01/24/2012 3:38:53 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Kenny Bunk
Having "voluntarily" (heh-heh) surrendered their licenses, rather than take the hit of disbarrment is a huge break that attorney's give each other. The disbarred lawyer is usually SOL on getting other, related work, such as President of the US. The "volunteer" might not be. And I already apologized for missing your excellent post on the subject and did note the drug beef on subsequent comments. Sorry, I actually didn't notice your post! Happens.

Thanks again.

No problem. I just reviewed some of the material at the link, and there is stuff that I thought was there which is not. At the time, I found a lot more information on Michelle's law license, and I had links which greatly clarified her situation. The citations on her bar documentation indicated that she had undergone a disciplinary action of some sort. It is confusing because the relevant document which identified the type of action was re-written subsequently, and the section which Identified it as a disciplinary action was deleted. You had to get a copy of the section in effect at the time it occurred.

I think I found this at "Atlas Shrugs" but I no longer remember. I DO remember there were people who had spent an awful lot of effort trying to get to the bottom of what happened to Michelle's Law License.

55 posted on 01/24/2012 3:42:44 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: STJPII

Yes, it does only apply to active duty. Alas, not to the CinC. That’s why I said it didn’t work when Clinton tried it, but try it he did.


56 posted on 01/24/2012 3:59:09 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Seizethecarp; DiogenesLamp; Kenny Bunk; Springfield Reformer; EDINVA
Do you know anything about this doc I just spotted on Scribd?

Motion to Restrain Malihi, Secy. of State, Et Al, prepared for (filed in?) US Court of Appeals, 11th Dist by third party relator (Paul Maas Risenhoover of Robin Hood International Human Rights Legal Defense Fund)?

The title above is my own, based on what I think the doc is purporting to be. Scribd's title is: "Robin Hood Ex Rel Obama v OSAH and Secretary of State, State of Georgia"

I found it just by doing a keyword search at scribd for "Jablonski" and docs posted within the week, because I was curious if anything new was popping up.

Numerous apologies if this ping isn't welcome, or if this document has already been thoroughly discussed here, or if it isn't actually a relevant document at all. I don't want to waste anyone's time.

Otherwise, I'd love to hear your assessment of it.
57 posted on 01/24/2012 4:19:40 PM PST by ecinkc (Would a congressman have tangible interest as a part of the sole body designated to impeach POTUS?)
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To: STJPII

What do you mean by a triple seal?


58 posted on 01/24/2012 4:34:42 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: ecinkc
Do you know anything about this doc I just spotted on Scribd?

Motion to Restrain Malihi, Secy. of State, Et Al, prepared for (filed in?) US Court of Appeals, 11th Dist by third party relator (Paul Maas Risenhoover of Robin Hood International Human Rights Legal Defense Fund)?

The title above is my own, based on what I think the doc is purporting to be. Scribd's title is: "Robin Hood Ex Rel Obama v OSAH and Secretary of State, State of Georgia"

I found it just by doing a keyword search at scribd for "Jablonski" and docs posted within the week, because I was curious if anything new was popping up.

Numerous apologies if this ping isn't welcome, or if this document has already been thoroughly discussed here, or if it isn't actually a relevant document at all. I don't want to waste anyone's time.

Otherwise, I'd love to hear your assessment of it.

My best guess at the moment is that it was cobbled together by a "fogbow" denizen as an exercise in wishful thinking. I was reading through their comments the other day and I recalled seeing them discussing such a thing. Many of them are lawyers and they were going on about how they could write a better motion to quash or this or that other legal maneuver.

They live in an abstract world of legal bullsh*t and it is the very air that they breath. If you read through this document you see certain tail tale signs of Liberal Idiocy, such as the comment that "Georgia lost the civil war" and that if "Men could have babies, those babies would be "natural born" too." Some Judges might regard such language as condescending.

If in fact this document is other than a liberal wet-dream fantasy, I would love to see this Administrative law issue fast tracked up to the Supreme Court. Publicity would be a POSITIVE development in my opinion.

Given most Lawyers goofy ideas about what "natural born citizen" means, I won't be surprised to discover that Judge Malihi will rule against us. The corruption and incompetence in our legal system is one of the greatest threats facing this nation currently.

59 posted on 01/24/2012 4:37:59 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Thank you for taking a look. I greatly appreciate your time and insight.


60 posted on 01/24/2012 4:42:35 PM PST by ecinkc (Would a congressman have tangible interest as a part of the sole body designated to impeach POTUS?)
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