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Why Is The Baltic Dry Index Getting Crushed?
TBI ^ | 1-25-2012 | Sam Ro

Posted on 01/25/2012 1:56:23 PM PST by blam

CHART OF THE DAY: Why Is The Baltic Dry Index Getting Crushed?

Sam Ro
Jan. 25, 2012, 9:48 AM

People can't seem to decide if they're concerned or just confused by the Baltic Dry Index (BDIY), which has plunged 53% since the beginning of the year.

The BDIY is a benchmark for dry bulk shipping rates and is often cited as a proxy for the global economy.

Sure, the global economy isn't as healthy as it could be. Just yesterday, the IMF cut its global GDP growth forecast to 3.3% in 2012 and 3.9% in 2013. This compares to its previous forecast of 4% and 4.5%, respectively. In Q4, China's GDP growth decelerated to its slowest rate in 2 1/2 years. And Japan just reported its first trade deficit since 1980.

However, none of this seems to completely justify the substantial drop in the BDIY.

Adding to the confusion is the monster rally in global stock markets since the beginning of the year, which seems to refute both slowing global GDP and the BDIY. Even Greek and Chinese stock markets are surging.

Perhaps its not the macro economy, but rather the microeconomics of the shipping industry that are adding to volatility. Market guru Ed Yardeni recently addressed this with The Globe And Mail's David Parkinson.

A few years ago, there was a big shortage of these large ships, and the [Baltic Dry] Index soared...The response to the soaring freight prices was for shipping companies to order new vessels from shipbuilders – orders that were placed before the 2008-09 recession that hammered shipping rates. But because of the lengthy manufacturing cycle for large freighters, many of those ships are only now being delivered. Now, we have a glut of capacity for these commodities.


(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: balticdryindex; bdi; economy; shipping
I thought we'd already been through a 'too many ships being delivered' period a year or two ago.(?)
1 posted on 01/25/2012 1:56:26 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

It’s extremely volatile. One ship too many and it crashes, one too few and it soars. But I don’t know anything in particular about the current situation.


2 posted on 01/25/2012 2:02:43 PM PST by babble-on
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To: blam

More too it than that...

Freight volumes across the board are down, retailers are still sitting on big Christmas Inventories.
Baltic Dry is a LEADING Economic Indicator.


3 posted on 01/25/2012 2:10:10 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: blam

Bush’s Fault! (Kidding. If I don’t say kidding, someone on the left will actually blame Bush...) :-)


4 posted on 01/25/2012 2:10:35 PM PST by b4its2late (Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former.)
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To: babble-on
It’s extremely volatile. One ship too many and it crashes, one too few and it soars.

I didn't realize it was that sensitive. Seems like when BDI threads first showed up here in 2008 or so, there were pictures of dozens of freighters sitting at anchor.

5 posted on 01/25/2012 2:32:32 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: blam

The Port of Long Beach (CA) is the largest US port and is off 14% for the first 3 months of the fiscal year. Loaded outbound containers are off 17.5%:

http://www.polb.com/economics/stats/latest_teus.asp


6 posted on 01/25/2012 2:35:05 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: b4its2late

The folks here on the right honestly think it is Bush’s fault too


7 posted on 01/25/2012 2:40:37 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"The Port of Long Beach (CA) is the largest US port and is off 14% for the first 3 months of the fiscal year. Loaded outbound containers are off 17.5%: "

Thanks.

*** Fiscal Year = Oct. 1 through Sep. 30.

8 posted on 01/25/2012 2:54:59 PM PST by blam
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To: bert

maybe there’s a glut of baltic dries.


9 posted on 01/25/2012 2:57:05 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty.)
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To: blam; FARS; Dutchy; ELS; firebrand; Doctor Raoul; kristinn; mnehring

Someone told me a couple years ago, THIS is the indicator for the world economy

And looking at that chart...we is not in good straits...


10 posted on 01/25/2012 3:08:47 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: b4its2late

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Bush’s Fault! (Kidding. If I don’t say kidding, someone on the left will actually blame Bush...) :-)
********

... or just as likely — somebody on Free Republic will blame him ;)


11 posted on 01/25/2012 3:11:56 PM PST by Calif Conservative (rwr and gwb backer)
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To: the invisib1e hand
maybe there’s a glut of baltic dries

Good one! Y'know maybe these indices aren't all they're cracked up to be. In the end, we should look at how much stuff is being produced and how much is being bought -- and at what price.

12 posted on 01/25/2012 3:51:49 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: RaceBannon

13 posted on 01/25/2012 4:14:46 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Maybe the markets (which are supposed to be forward looking) are pricing in a global tariff war? Wouldn’t shock me if that were to occur.


14 posted on 01/25/2012 4:17:19 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: blam

re. that chart: oy!


15 posted on 01/25/2012 5:34:04 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty.)
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To: blam

it’s screaming at me, anyway.


16 posted on 01/25/2012 5:35:46 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty.)
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To: blam

The extra ships problem has still not been fixed, it will take years for older ships to be scrapped, and a few shippers to go out of business. But I’d guess this recent slide is due to China and its real estate boom going bust, as it is the largest buyer of raw materials, which the baltic dry represents.


17 posted on 01/25/2012 5:36:34 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: blam
FWIW...an ETF..called SEA has turned up...from a low of 13 something...to near 17.

That said...it's a short watch. Not a long watch.

18 posted on 01/25/2012 5:56:17 PM PST by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: Osage Orange
"That said...it's a short watch. Not a long watch. "

I don't know what that means?

19 posted on 01/25/2012 7:19:41 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Meaning....I wouldn’t go long the ETF...I’d maybe look to short it.


20 posted on 01/26/2012 6:14:00 AM PST by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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