[MMaschin]

Sadly Sven is correct. The court can only rule on the evidence presented . The lawyers did not present any evidence that BO father did not become a citizen etc. SAD. They had their chance and may have blown it. The didn’t even try to prove the citizenship of his father.

That is incorrect! At the beginning of the hearing, Van Irions presented numerous INS documents showing that Obama Sr WAS NEVER a US citizen!

[philman_36]

See 569.

[hoosiermama]

Thanks for the correction. That was not noted anywhere on the thread that I’d seen. Some of us were unable to listen and didn’t get the entire gist of what was happening by reading the thread.

[DiogenesLamp]

Sadly Sven is correct. The court can only rule on the evidence presented . The lawyers did not present any evidence that BO father did not become a citizen etc. SAD. They had their chance and may have blown it. The didn’t even try to prove the citizenship of his father.

That is incorrect! At the beginning of the hearing, Van Irions presented numerous INS documents showing that Obama Sr WAS NEVER a US citizen!

I hate to get into this, but I believe what Sven is pointing out is that the vast majority of the legal system has been operating under the Jus Soli principle for so long that they are not even familiar with the Jus Sanguinus principle.

Sven is saying the judge is going to rule he's eligible because the judge doesn't know the correct history or meaning of the term "natural born citizen" and is simply going to follow the ruts left by the 14th amendment and Wong Kim Ark.

This is something which I have been very worried about as well. It takes quite a lot of time and research to gain a correct understanding of the Father requirement for a natural born citizen, but it is EASY to simply trail along behind the existing crowd.

I won't be surprised if the Judge rules he is eligible. He will be wrong, but that never stopped a judge before.