Posted on 01/26/2012 5:55:04 AM PST by RaceBannon
Article II SUPERPAC streaming live video and audio at this link
Hopefully the provided these on CD or DVD and entered them into the formal in that format.
Possible discussion today:
“Your honor, we would like to enter in the records presented by the candidate into the record.”
“This a DVD. Not a document”
“Yes sir. But it is the original and only media format ever provided.”
“Can we have original document from the Department of Health in Hawaii?”
“None has ever been provided. The candidate and his attorney were requested to present such official state records via subpoena.”
“But it is simply a document available for a nominal charge from the State, correct?”
“Yes sir. We are at a loss to explain the lack of producing this simple, common state-issued record for the court.”
“Can we enter in a printout of the files on the DVD and not the DVD contents?”
“Well your honor, that would then be a non-original record. We are offering the court the original evidence of birth as presented by the candidate in the only format ever offered by the candidate.”
“This is highly unusual. Digital files are not usually offered in place of actual documents.”
“Yes, your honor - it is.”
The non-Orly lawyers were making the case the Obama Sr was not a citizen at the time of the supposedly Obama 2nd’s birth.
And Orly was ordered to present everything else in writing. I think you’re jumping to conclusions.
Rick's father was a US citizen and Rick was born in the US. He is a natural born citizen. Romney's father was a US citizen and Mitt was born in the US. He is a natural born citizen. Obama's father was not a US citizen. He is not a natural born citizen, no matter where he was born.
This seems pretty simple to me. The plaintiffs have shown several reasons to doubt, if not fully disprove Obama’s eligibility to be on the ballot. Obama has made no effort to prove he is eligible. The safest ruling is to leave Obama off the ballot. If Obama wants to contest this finding, then he’s going to have go through legal channels to prove his eligibility.
How can a printed document (the BC) from a web site be entered into evidence as an official document?
Do they mean I can manufacture anything I want [oh, say a contract for a millions dollars] post it on a web site and then print that as ‘proof’ that someone owes me a million dollars?
if so, I am gonna be rich soon...
No, I think he’s making a valid point. That’s the danger of the NBC argument. In order to make that argument they have to accept that Obama Sr is Obama’s legal father, but to accept that they have to consent to using fraudulent documents as if they were authentic. That sets a precedent. Obama can now say that those 2 fakes were accepted by a judge as authentic.
Unless Malihi rules on Orly’s case first and finds that those documents are not authentic, and then takes judicial note of that for the other 2 cases.
Sheesh. What a mess.
Oh no! You guys still using that old talking point - distraction. LOL!! We are conservatives - we can do more in our sleep that 10 liberals can do midday!
What YOU call a birther movement - I call a Constitutional issue. Why don't you call it the same?
Now back to your twisted logic. Why did you change the subject and ignore what was being addressed?
I once found it at least intellectually interesting, but not any more. It’s basically dead. The cause of death was suicide.
So what are you doing here, now? You see how more of your dumb*** statements out you? You - in your liberal way - which means 'retarded' trying to convince others it's dead and you have no interest in it - but here you are posting through the ordeal, slam the good lawyer and still here defending yourself and ranting on how it's dead? What part of FAIL don't you get? LOL!! Truly, liberalism is a mental disease.
Perhaps your posts are a good educational tool for the young. We will start the class with the Pledge of Allegiance. And the Course is: Stay away from liberals, lest you Become One. OK, class - Read these posts, here's their logic. Sit down when reading it lest you get dizzy. This is from a brain fried on lies/deception. See how they pathetically pander. They can't see it but in their demented way, it may even make sense to them. Run from them, it's the patriotic thing to do. We call them maggots and they aren't your friend or America's friend. Class over.
Because the NDAA of 2012 allows deportation of US citizens?
Now all he has to do is demonstrate that a British subject by birth can be an American NBC and he's done.
The BC was told to be a forged document, the numbering was out of sequence, and on and on. It was never purported to be authentic doc.
I just got off the phone with Dean Haskins who was in the courtroom this morning assisting with the Art 2Pac live stream. Judge Malihi talked to the attorneys in chambers before the hearing this morning and told them that he was going to enter a DEFAULT JUDGMENT against Obama and recommend that Obama’s name not be on the Georgia ballot! All of the attorneys expressed a desire to put an abbreviated streamlined case on the record and the judge agreed.
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2012/01/exclusive-breaking-newsjudge-will-enter.html
See 569.
That’s what I don’t understand, and that’s why I’d really like to see a transcript of how that all went down. If it was presented as evidence of what Obama was CLAIMING, that would be different than presenting it as an authentic document. What I need to know is which way it was actually presented and accepted by Malihi. I can’t believe that any of the rules of evidence would allow a PDF printout of a birth certificate to be considered prima facie evidence of the alleged facts of birth.
But then, it seems like that’s what Hatfield and Irion were both asking Malihi to do.
“Orly tried to make a case the documents posted on the WH website were fraudulent and was cut off by the Judge because they had already been entered into the record as undisputed fact.” - SM
Ummm - Orly did have lots of testimony entered befroe the court that pointed to fraudulent documents. Several witnesses in fact.
The documents in the other (preceding) cases were entered as evidence, but only as they could be, as pdf files available on the WH.gov site. This serves to anchor the source of any forgery, but does not claim that these are unaltered *original* documents or files.
How could you be this wrong by random chance?
That is a total fabrication. That did not happen!
Reminds me to get that java script I have been working on done to eliminate Sven's post from my screen....
I believe Obama & Co. stayed home.
Leading from behind again...
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