Posted on 01/26/2012 7:45:48 AM PST by SueRae
In the 15 states that are likely to decide who controls the White House and the Senate in 2013, Hispanic voters will represent the margin of victory.
For the Republican Party, the stakes could not be greater. Just eight years after the party’s successful effort to woo Hispanic voters in 2004, this community — the fastest-growing group in the United States, according to census data — has drifted away. .Although Democrats hold the edge, Republicans have an opportunity. We also have a record of winning Hispanic voters in certain statewide and national elections. Here are four suggestions on how Republican candidates can regain momentum with the most powerful swing voters.
First, we need to recognize this is not a monochromatic community but, rather, a deeply diverse one. Hispanics in this country include Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans and many others. Some came here 50 years ago to make a better life; others came last year. Some have lots of education, some have none. The traditional Republican emphasis on the importance of the individual has never been more relevant
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Yep
Come and live here or in CA and you will change your mind.
What’s your disfunction? I normally don’t attack the poster but you must have trouble reading or distinguishing illegal immigrant from Hispanic. The confusion is revolting.
Your post is representative of a tendency for Republicans and Conservatives to shrink at the challenge of engaging diverse groups. The republican party is a natural fit for many of the values/priorities largely held across the Hispanic community. We’ve done well with them in the past and can do so again. And yes Virginia - they do vote - legally.
Final comment, Cubans? Heard the word? It’s not just a cigar, I promise.
Why are you attacking me? Do you know who no matter what the nationality is illegal? I don’t and I did not say all were illegal.
Frankly, I am sick of people like you who feel it is necessary to assault and insult people full force without a thought as to why I feel the way i do.
Simple, the article was about Hispanics and your reply was all about illegals as if the two were synonymous.
Title: “How Republicans can win Hispanics back”
Your response: “What do you mean win them back? They were never with us and they are illegal.
What we need to do is make sure they don’t vote.”
It was an ignorant post that lowers the level of discourse and gives the site a bad name. In case that’s not clear.
All Hispanics are not illegal. Most Hispanics in the U.S. are not illegal.
As far as why you hold an ignorant position, is there a reason I should care?
First of all, I never said they were ALL illegal. This statement by you Most Hispanics in the U.S. are not illegal.” is wrong. You have no idea how many illegals are here. I sick of the attacks by people who misinterpret what other people say and attack them purposely to either get their own point across or they are use plain stupid.
As stated, the article was about Hispanics and not illegals. You responded about illegals without ANY qualifications to your statement. There’s no other way of taking it without assuming thoughts/ideas that are not there. There was absolutely no misrepresentation. If that is not what you intended to say, state that but don’t blame someone who read and reread what you wrote and responded.
Additionally, I’ve seen no credible estimates to suggest that a majority of Hispanics in the U.S. are illegal. If you care to put one forward, I’d be happy to change my current thinking.
As to your last sentence, if you’re going to try to suggest that someone may be ‘stupid’, you may want to focus on using proper English.
Oh please, you don’t have any credible evidence who is illegal and who isn’t and this is just your opinion along with smart aleck remarks.
Well since you made the original assertion that all Hispanics are illegal, normal rules would suggest that the burden of providing some proof would be on you. That in mind, I’ll play:
The easiest source that I found in the form of Wikipedia puts the 2008 # of illegal immigrants in the U.S. at 11M people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States
This article puts the 2008 population at about 303M and the percent of Hispanics at 14% - which would be 42.4M.
That would also suggest that your original assertion that Hispanic=Illegal is factually untrue. Now you can throw out non sequiturs like “you don’t have any credible evidence who is illegal and who isn’t” but since I have never stated that I’d know which 1 in 4 people in the U.S. is the illegal you’re just just chasing straw men. Finding the 1 in 4 is the job of law enforcement - which should be empowered to do so effectively.
I do think it’s important that the Republican and Conservative movements not cede the 3 in 4 legal and vote eligible Hispanics to the Democrat party. By values, we should get a majority of their votes. I responded to your original post because I believe that a major reason that we have trouble doing well with Hispanics is because of knee jerk and borderline raciest comments like yours. I don’t believe that there’s a place for it in the party.
I did not say all Hispanics are illegals. That is your opinion. Good grief. you just go on and on and on. If I want a lecture I will call a liberal.
Call whoever you want. The article was about Hispanics and your direct response painted them all as illegals. You can back off it without addressing what you said but don’t expect me to respect it. Call whoever you want but as long as you come back with non sequiturs, useless complaints, misdirection , and otherwise non logical or factual information, expect that I’ll continue to push back. Call whoever you like, maybe they can throw you a lifeline for a cogent argument.
Geez, sounds as if all you want to do is lecture. Get lost.
Not in the business or habit of taking advice from the clearly ignorant. In several message exchanges you’ve offered nothing of fact or substance. I’ll keep my on council on when and how to respond. Step out of your norm and just maybe meet one of those 3 in 4 legal Hispanics - some nice folks in there if you don’t treat them like criminals from the git go.
Geez, you just don’t stop, do you? Why don’t you go over to DU where you seem much more suited.
Awesome, that was predictable - lacking facts or any strong argument it’s just a matter of time till the ad hominem attack.
DU is full of raciests - not my speed. Don’t want to see it crop up here either.
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