Both men and women regret abortions.
But the babies are with God.
We all need to pray to end abortion!
Posted on 01/26/2012 10:53:52 AM PST by wagglebee
“Having a murderer speak on our behalf on this issue infuriates me”.
I understand you are upset with her decision to kill her two babies but think about this for a moment.... What this young woman has to say about her life is extremely important. She can illustrate her poor lifestyle choices and how abortion affected her life negatively. Plus, she can shed some light on just how abortion clinics and society verbally manipulate them into thinking that abortion is their only choice and a “simple procedure” to remedy a situation so she can go on with her life. Many times, people in a certain situation respond better to someone who has been in their shoes. Will a sixteen year old unwed girl listen more to a middle aged woman (with three kids and who has never had an abortion) or will they respond more to a younger person who made a horrible decision that she will regret forever?
If pro-life people ridicule, humiliate and refuse to accept a repentent person, then we simply show we have no feelings whatsoever to people who have made a horrible decision and changed later. Instead of embracing them into a community that is pro-life, should we shun them? If so, many other women will never discuss how abortion negatively affected their life. If this occurs, the pro-choice crowd wins... it solidifies the “it’s only tissue and not a baby” sentiment that is used so much.
That is a very powerful testimony.
You never heard of repentance?
Those who are blinded by the lies of Satan are blinded. They can't see the truth until God opens their eyes. There but for the grace of God go I. Or you. Or any of us.
There is just so much wrong with your condemnation of her that I hardly know where to begin.
However, these words come to mind.....
Matthew 5:7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Matthew 9:13 Go and learn what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”
Matthew 6:14-15 14 For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, 15 but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Mark 11:25 And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.”
The fact we ask murderers to speak for us is disgusting.
And you're not perfect either.
God didn't think it was disgusting.....
Moses
David
Paul
Matthew 5:22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
1 John 3:15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
Ditto to your wonderful reply!
On the contrary, she is an incredible witness to God’s forgiveness and healing. It’s hard enough to reach women damaged by the Big Lie. They are too ashamed to reach for help from anyone because others will condemn them instead of help them find salvation through Christ on the Cross.
Thankfully, she doesn’t have to answer to anyone now but God.
No, it isn't.
Love the sinner, hate the sin.
Tookie Williams = bad example for you to use. He was so violent that when he died, guards and prisoners alike heaved a sigh of relief.
No one was safe from his murderous reach, neither inside nor outside of that prison.
Thank you.
BloodAngel, This somehow seems personal to you? Have you been hurt deeply in some way that you cannot see your way to forgiving someone who reminds you of your own hurt for some reason? Your response suggests that there is something more to it than you have written.
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Luke 15:11-32
New International Version (NIV)
The Parable of the Lost Son
11 Jesus continued: “There was a man who had two sons. 12 The younger one said to his father, ‘Father, give me my share of the estate.’ So he divided his property between them.
13 “Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14 After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15 So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16 He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.
17 “When he came to his senses, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18 I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19 I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired servants.’ 20 So he got up and went to his father.
“But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.
21 “The son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.’
22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate. 24 For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ So they began to celebrate.
25 “Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27 ‘Your brother has come,’ he replied, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.’
28 “The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29 But he answered his father, ‘Look! All these years I’ve been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!’
31 “‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32 But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’”
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This young lady has been saved by our Lord and Christ - for that we rejoice. Please consider what God has done for her and marvel at His Glory and Mercy.
Paul is a Saint.
Saint Paul.
True. It says to other women, "Go ahead and abort, and when you have aborted as many babies as you want to, you can say that you've changed to being against it, and the pro-life movement will call you a hero."
Having a murderer speak on our behalf on this issue infuriates me.
As well it should.
The fact we ask murderers to speak for us is disgusting.
Yes it is.
And every speaking engagement that goes to someone who aborted could instead go to someone who faced tough circumstances and didn't abort.
Good point.
It isn’t a matter of not forgiving, but rather a matter of not celebrating those who have killed innocent pre-born babies.
Putting those who have up on stages to be applauded by pro-lifers is appalling.
Every adult woman who signs a legal document to have a pre-born baby killed by abortion is 100% responsible and morally culpable for that action.
Spectres of alleged “coercion” are simply scapegoats invoked to cloak the fact that a million American women each year willfully kill pre-born babies of their own volition.
Lots of women have more than one abortion.
Accept that she will never merit being treated as a hero by genuine pro-lifers.
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