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Newt hints at Rubio for VP
WND ^ | 1-27-2012 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 01/27/2012 11:03:12 AM PST by Danae

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To: Longbow1969

Why not just vote for Castro? If you really feel this way, then you are an enemy of this nation. I am not gonna pussyfoot around about this anymore.

ANYONE supporting an unconstitutional candidate for POTUS or Vp is an enemy of this nation.


61 posted on 01/27/2012 12:08:26 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae

Inglis v Trustees of Sailor’s Snug Harbor

Deals a lot with the type of citizenship issues that Rubio faces.


62 posted on 01/27/2012 12:09:11 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: jcsjcm

I do too. but it IS a trial balloon, and not the first time it’s been floated, and not just by Newt. Its the GOP establishment. Grrrrrrrrrrr


63 posted on 01/27/2012 12:11:25 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Absolutely!

I find this subject extremely fascinating and wish for a resolution one way or the other. I don’t believe there is ever going to be a settled thought on this matter until the case has been settled in SCOTUS. I just don’t see it happening.

I wish that both sides would want this settled as well. All I see is obstructing our will to have this heard. It makes me feel that my class of citizen is not worthy of this hearing. Whether I am a citizen or a natural born citizen I seem to have no right to have this heard.

Would you not find that frustrating? I am in fact a natural born, but that is irrelevant. As a citizen I should have the same right!


64 posted on 01/27/2012 12:11:47 PM PST by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: crosshairs

They KNOW Mittens won’t call Bambi on it. Thats why they want him, just like the Obama team wanted John McCain in 08.


65 posted on 01/27/2012 12:12:47 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Hugin
You are just wrong. There is no legal basis for the birthers unique inerpretation of the Constitution. That’s why no court in America will give you the time of day.

Well Golly Gee, the flipping Supreme Court of the United States totally disagrees with your opinion.

Minor v Happersett (1874)

"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168."
66 posted on 01/27/2012 12:15:39 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: JimRed

They will never do that. Not only could it mean Jail time for certain people like Nancy Pelosi as well as Obama, they have too much invested in the lies now.


67 posted on 01/27/2012 12:17:10 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: kidd

Sorry! My bad! I have a huge ping list today.... My apologies!


68 posted on 01/27/2012 12:18:55 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Drew68

I should have remembered I was on FR before I made that claim.

She’s in 7th grade now. I’ll go get it and report back. It’s there- she was tested on it and I helped her study.


69 posted on 01/27/2012 12:19:03 PM PST by nixonsnose (Let's see all you lawyers argue your way out of hell.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

and I am opening to reading further. Please send any links that might enlighten me.


70 posted on 01/27/2012 12:20:25 PM PST by nixonsnose (Let's see all you lawyers argue your way out of hell.)
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To: Drew68

Oh thats already been done. Sent a couple to Rubio as well.

FYI, don’t slander Leo to me. Do you have kids? Then I could try to slime you as a baby butt wiper. Leave the insults off. Leo deserves better, and so do you for that matter.


71 posted on 01/27/2012 12:25:23 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae
Why not just vote for Castro? If you really feel this way, then you are an enemy of this nation. I am not gonna pussyfoot around about this anymore.

/yawn

Oooooh, I'm so frightened that random internet poster Danae isn't going to pussyfoot around anymore. I quake at this threat! LOL.

I think I am going to take the word of a constitutional scholar like Mark Levin over your version of what an NBC is. Rubio was born in Miami, he was born an American citizen, he is an NBC and he is eligible to VP or President. Period. No matter how much you cry and whine, nothing is going to change that.

ANYONE supporting an unconstitutional candidate for POTUS or Vp is an enemy of this nation.

HAHA, lol, oh man. I almost want Rubio to get the VP nomination just to see birther heads explode. If that happens you are going to have to declare even Rush Limbaugh an enemy of the nation.

72 posted on 01/27/2012 12:27:11 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Danae

I will echo, Gingrich/West 2012 !


73 posted on 01/27/2012 12:27:48 PM PST by Finatic (I ran out of change and have given up on hope. FUBO, I am so sick of your sorry a$$ you effin punk)
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To: nixonsnose
"I believe all of those in power know this. That is why this stuff goes nowhere. Furthermore, the Constitution has a protocol for removing a president: elections or impeachment. Scotus isn't in there. They will never take the case. Thomas intimated all of this in private talks. He knows it, Obama knows it and so do I. They were afraid to take it up during the election because everyone was afraid of being called racist. They are afraid to take it up now because it might destroy the country.

I believe you are correct in everthing you have said.

The problem is, if they do NOT take it up now, we are no longer a nation governed by the rule of law, and have already been destroyed.

74 posted on 01/27/2012 12:32:55 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Danae

Would Rubio be qualified if he was one of the new Moon Citizens?


75 posted on 01/27/2012 12:36:39 PM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (I sure wouldn't get away with kiting a $9000 check to the IRS.)
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To: Danae

I found it nauseating that Little Wolfie the Chinless Wonder insisted on trotting out a bunch of Hispanics to start a pandering contest among the candidates.

Why did they not give equal time to some Chinese-American, Greek-American, Nepalese-American group, etc., to ask their questions?


76 posted on 01/27/2012 12:37:59 PM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

LOL I love your screen name!

Well, not sure Moonbat is a citizenship status .. YET... LOLZ


77 posted on 01/27/2012 12:38:51 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae
Oh no no no they did not! The framers DELIBERATELY rejected English Common law

You are wildly, wildly wrong on this.

English Common law has similarities to what is referred to as US Common law, but in reality, there IS NO US Common law. Our laws were created with the Constitution, which in many areas deliberately rejected English Common Law. You are using a Straw Man argument.

This makes my head hurt. There are so many mixups in that it would be impossible to unwind in a single post. Suffice it to say that English common law was the default rule in the colonies prior to independence, and was/is considered valid within those states except as superceded by statute or subsequent case law. That's only logical, since English common law is what was practiced in all those colonial courts prior to independence, and if you imagine that it vanished overnight with independence, the colonies would have been largely lawless.

You are correct in saying there is no federal common law, as such, because the federal government did not exist during the pre-Constitutional period when English common law was commonly practiced in our colonial (i.e., state) courts.

However, that does not mean that English common law is not considered persuasive in interpreting U.S. Constitutional law, including rights such as habeus corpus, bail, etc. The Supreme Court has routinely looked to how those concepts were understood in England when determining how they should be applied here.

For example, the Constitution says "no excessive bail". But then, how is it that people can be held without bail at all? Well, the Supreme Court found that if you looked at English common law practice, you could see there were occasions where truly vile, dangerous people were held with no bail at all. So despite that clear language of the 8th amendment, people can be held with no bail at all.

That kind of reliance on English common law to interpret what is meant by Constitutional provisions that had a counterpart in the common law is, well, common.

78 posted on 01/27/2012 12:47:03 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Longbow1969
"I think I am going to take the word of a constitutional scholar like Mark Levin over your version of what an NBC is. Rubio was born in Miami, he was born an American citizen, he is an NBC and he is eligible to VP or President. Period. "

I think I am going to take the word of Constitutional scholar like David Ramsay, who wrote in 1789:

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."

79 posted on 01/27/2012 12:49:19 PM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Longbow1969
Rubio was born in Miami, he was born an American citizen, he is an NBC and he is eligible to VP or President. Period. No matter how much you cry and whine, nothing is going to change that.

Liars like you are why America, her Constitution and the civil society are coming apart at the seams.

You keep trashing the Constitution, you will get what you deserve: a nation in collapse, or more likely, in civil war.

80 posted on 01/27/2012 12:54:14 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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