California passes new auto emission rules

Associated Press ^ | 1/27/12 | JASON DEAREN

[SmithL]

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- California air regulators passed Friday sweeping auto emission standards that include a mandate to have 1.4 million electric and hybrid vehicles on state roads by 2025.

The California Air Resources Board unanimously approved the new rules, which require that one-in-seven of new cars sold in the state in 2025 be an electric or other zero-emission vehicle.

The plan also mandated a 75-percent reduction in smog-forming pollutants by 2025, and a 34 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions over roughly the same time.

Automakers worked with the board and federal regulators on the greenhouse gas mandates in an effort to create one national standard for those pollutants.

California's auto emissions standards are often more strict than federal ones. Currently 14 other states have adopted the California rules as their own.

Companies including Ford Motor Corp., Chrysler Group LLC, General Motors Co., Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. and others submitted testimony Thursday in support of the new standards during a meeting of the board.

Industry groups representing auto dealers worried that the new regulations would increase the costs of vehicles for consumers and stifle the industry's growth.

The California New Car Dealers Association and other industry groups representing those who sell cars said the board is overestimating consumer demand for electric vehicles and other so-called "zero-emission vehicles."

[Flashman_at_the_charge]

Fine, lets mandate that all, and I do mean all, State employees have to drive an electric vehicle as part of their terms of employment.

[Norm Lenhart]

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My uncle has a country place
That no one knows about.
He says it used to be a farm,
Before the Motor Law.
And on Sundays I elude the Eyes,
And hop the Turbine Freight
To far outside the Wire,
Where my white-haired uncle waits.

Jump to the ground
As the Turbo slows to cross the Borderline.
Run like the wind,
As excitement shivers up and down my spine.
Down in his barn,
My uncle preserved for me an old machine,
For fifty-odd years.
To keep it as new has been his dearest dream.

I strip away the old debris
That hides a shining car.
A brilliant red Barchetta
From a better, vanished time.
I fire up the willing engine,
Responding with a roar.
Tires spitting gravel,
I commit my weekly crime...
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Wind-
In my hair-
Shifting and drifting-
Mechanical music-
Adrenalin surge...

Well-weathered leather,
Hot metal and oil,
The scented country air.
Sunlight on chrome,
The blur of the landscape,
Every nerve aware.

Suddenly ahead of me,
Across the mountainside,
A gleaming alloy air-car
Shoots towards me, two lanes wide.
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To run the deadly race,
Go screaming through the valley
As another joins the chase.

Drive like the wind,
Straining the limits of machine and man.
Laughing out loud
With fear and hope, I’ve got a desperate plan.
At the one-lane bridge
I leave the giants stranded at the riverside.
Race back to the farm, to dream with my uncle at the firesideom/watch?v=FAvQSkK8Z8U&feature=related

[Myrddin]

So...exactly how does CARB propose to compel one out of every seven new car purchasers in California to select a zero-emission vehicle?

They can't. What this portends is car lots where one out of seven vehicles on the lot is never sold. A perpetual drain on the flooring loan, inventory insurance and maintenance to keep washing the accumulated dirt and cobwebs off.

[DuncanWaring]

...new rules, which require that one-in-seven of new cars sold in the state in 2025 be an electric or other zero-emission vehicle coal-powered.

[MeganC]

To get this mandate to work CARB will predictably tighten emissions rules for cars that are already on the road with the intention of effectively forcing people into electric cars just to avoid the hassle and expense of getting their cars to pass biannual (or maybe now annual) emissions testing.

[matt04]

I would love to see just one car company say f**k you to CA and stop selling cars in the state.

I’m sure they can somehow count all the unemployed workers at closed dealers as jobs create or saved.

[Chode]

i take it all state owned vehicles will lead the way... yes???

[married21]

Every 6th car buyer will get an electric car, free!

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

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[Califreak]

>I would love to see just one car company say f**k you to CA and stop selling cars in the state.<

Agreed.

[meatloaf]

If you’re referring to the Lada or VAZ, that was a Fiat 124 knock off. Supposedly it had thicker steel and other mods for the poor roads. Some even came with a hand crank in case the batteries couldn’t start the engine in cold temperatures.

[Smokin' Joe]

It is not clear what measures would be taken if companies can’t sell the vehicles they produce.

Might be a lot of new dealerships just across the border, though...