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1 posted on 01/30/2012 4:45:47 AM PST by tsowellfan
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If this is true, and I have no idea if it is or not, then it would explain why the establishment Republican party has continually avoided the birth certificate issue surrounding Obambi.


2 posted on 01/30/2012 4:51:18 AM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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Gee, I hope the Dems point out this little flaw in Mitt’s lineage. Now THAT would call for some popcorn!


3 posted on 01/30/2012 4:53:34 AM PST by SERKIT
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well, they can’t call us inconsistent. lol


5 posted on 01/30/2012 4:57:01 AM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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6 posted on 01/30/2012 4:59:06 AM PST by bcsco
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Great link .... reading down past the ‘natural born’ issue, there is lots of good info on Romney pertaining to his record & stand (or not) on the issues.


8 posted on 01/30/2012 5:01:05 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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Oh boy lets open up lots of worm cans. No love for Mittens here but his only opponent in striking distance was adopted as a child, born to a teenage mother absolutely no info on who the biological father might be heck the mom might not even know for sure. Do we really want to get that picky with our guys when it is plain that most do not care or even understand the issue and that most includes judges etc that are supposed to have training in such things.


10 posted on 01/30/2012 5:15:08 AM PST by scottteng (Tax government employees til they quit and find something useful to do)
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Maybe a private citizen in some state can request that Mitt prove eligibility to be on that state’s primary ballot ala Georgia.


11 posted on 01/30/2012 5:15:32 AM PST by IM2MAD
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Great find;)


13 posted on 01/30/2012 5:25:21 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: tsowellfan

How did George hiomself run for president? Clearly he was born in Mexico. That disqualifies him under the most liberal definitions of “Natural Born Citizen”. I am not old enough, but was this even an issue in his presidential campaign?


15 posted on 01/30/2012 5:30:26 AM PST by wolfman23601
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I do think the “native born citizen” question was problematic in the case of George Romney. In the case of Mitt, under our laws, he’s a natural born U.S. citizen for two clear reasons: his mother was a U.S. citizen and he was born on U.S. soil.

In the case of George Romney, his grandparents didn’t automatically lose their citizen by moving to Mexico. Even if his grandparents took Mexican citizenship, they wouldn’t lose U.S. citizenship under our laws because we’re happy with dual citizenship.

But, what about their children and their grandchildren? For how many generations does our law countenance citizenship being passed down from parent to child, in families that are living overseas?

I wonder, did or does the Romney clan in Mexico pay U.S. income taxes? Are they registered to vote in U.S. elections? Do they serve on juries in the U.S.? Do their males register with the U.S. draft?

WHAT does U.S. citizenship mean anyway (other than qualifying for food stamps)?

I think the passing along of citizenship from one generation to another, of people who live overseas and do not participate in the civic life of the country needs to be addressed by the U.S. Congress.

I don’t think we need to get retrospective about this, George Romney always thought of himself as a U.S. citizen. Accordingly, he never filed to naturalize and he thought he was qualified to run for President. It wasn’t an issue in 1968 and, so, wasn’t considered by the courts. That would have been interesting.

As for Mitt, he’s has the same two claims to being natural born as does Obama (an American mother and born on U.S. soil). Mitt’s father may or may not have been a U.S. citizen, who knows? Obama’s father was definitely not a U.S. citizen.


17 posted on 01/30/2012 5:44:04 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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Does that site quote the CITE of the act and the applicable language.

The Edmunds Act did not do what he claims.

Thus the whole point of that story is moot.


19 posted on 01/30/2012 5:45:55 AM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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Only in Romney’s demented mind does fugitive polygamist = Mexican


22 posted on 01/30/2012 6:00:27 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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“The laws of this country [Mexico] do not permit polygamy,`` but it`s legal for you to have as many mistresses as you can afford. {Polymistressy]


24 posted on 01/30/2012 6:16:15 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (polymistressy ?? In Mexico?? ?? Who knew?)
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Off topic but just realized: Heaven help me, this is the first election cycle in which I am older than all the presidential candidates!


25 posted on 01/30/2012 6:26:48 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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Fascinating. Really, very interesting. However, it would seem that mitt is an American citizen. Not a naturalized one. There are many Americans, like my son, who are born outside the country to an American citizen. Even if their births happened outside this country. Even if they are automatic citizens of the birth country. Citizenship is a zero sum game.

But is he a natural born citizen? This is a question that needs clarification by the courts. Is my son? Was john McCain? Would an anchor baby be one? We need an amendment to the constitution. It is not as crystal clear as it should be.


27 posted on 01/30/2012 6:31:32 AM PST by Yaelle
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This headline is untrue. There was no jus soli in Mexico when George Romney was born. George Romney was not born a Mexican.


32 posted on 01/30/2012 10:39:05 AM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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I have a suspicion as to why Romney is the elitists’ guy and why they are so desparate for him to be the candidate against Obama. The writing is on the wall for Obama. The birthers have been held back with the “no standing” game but now, it is different when canidates are qualifying for the ballots again.

When Obama gets nailed and blocked from a ballot, the elite will screech, Romney isn’t qualified either and make their power to ignore the constitution it into a massive bi-partisan circus. They don’t want to talk about the crimes and treason involved in both parties - putting an unconstitutional man in the white hut.

I think this is why Romney is the heavy, fire breathing candidate of the Rinos who conspired with the DNC to put an illegal president in the white house.


33 posted on 01/30/2012 11:10:45 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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I think this is better left alone, quite frankly. Too convoluted and confusing. And most of it occured in the days of poor documentation.

Let's get back to reality, Mitty is a flaming progressive liberal. Let's just support Newt and let HIM wax that suckers' tail. No sense veering off into the rhubarb on some wild snipe hunt.

37 posted on 01/31/2012 9:31:19 AM PST by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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