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Latest MSNBC 'Lean Forward' Implies Republican Opposition To Obama Illegitimate
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 02/01/2012 6:05:58 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Whatever happened to the good old days, when the MSM glorified "speaking truth to power"? We all know the answer: that epoch ended on January 20, 2009.

Nowadays, opposing power, particularly in the person of the president, far from being something to be praised, is downright illegitimate in some liberal media eyes. Take the latest "Lean Forward" promo by MSNBC, in which Ed Schultz actually claims that those "standing up to the president" are nothing but "bullies."

View the video here.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012electinbias; barackobama; dnctalkingpoints; edschultz; msm; msnbcbias; probama; republicans
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To: Wildbill22

Cue the Racist Kid!!!


21 posted on 02/01/2012 7:04:41 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: andy58-in-nh

In other words, leftists never argue based on the merits of the issues and concerns being raised, because they can’t.

Instead they attack their opponents as illegitimate, intellectually/morally inferior, or, in the case of their prototype communist template country, USSR, classify opposition as “insane”.


22 posted on 02/01/2012 7:09:36 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Leftists are not at all incapable of intellectual argumentation; they do it all the time - just don't challenge them.

Because if you, as a conservative attempt to point out logical fallacies, unsubstantiated claims, erroneous assumptions or false premises, they will not attempt to counter your argument. Instead, they'll call you a name and accuse you of something.

23 posted on 02/01/2012 7:27:25 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

They do seem to like to present their “arguments” in forums where they will not be challenged.

I assert that this is why they were so mad at Juan Williams about serving up the low hanging curveball for Newt to hit out of the park.

It’s not that he was making a “softer” argument than any of them ever do, it’s just that he did so in a forum where the assertion could be challenged.


24 posted on 02/01/2012 7:30:46 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I think it is because the left argues in emotional terms, not necessarily rational. When cornered, they retreat to what they know. Emotion.


25 posted on 02/01/2012 7:33:05 AM PST by Wildbill22
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PZPpWTRTU


26 posted on 02/01/2012 7:42:55 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: MrB
You are correct in that liberals tend to avoid forums where they will either be challenged, or else be unable to safely avail themselves of the tools they are used to employing.

Among those tools is the science of group dynamics, which can take several forms. One of the better-known ones is the "Delphi Technique" - a dishonest use of the discussion forum where a person claiming to be an independent "facilitator" is really an interested party who subtly directs like-minded group members against dissidents.

Another is the employment of unearned guilt as a weapon of shame in a public setting. If you have a Jewish mother like I do, you'll understand that one implicitly.

Juan Williams, for his part, is viewed by many on the Left as a traitor simply because he works at FOX News, regardless of the fact that he is most frequently a doctrinaire liberal (albeit one who occasionally displays a flash of insight and logic).

27 posted on 02/01/2012 8:11:28 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Got a joke for you...

A Jewish mother bought her son two shirts for his birthday.
To show how much he appreciated the gift, he put one of them on.
His mother then said “What? Don’t you like the other one?”


28 posted on 02/01/2012 8:21:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Wildbill22

That’s true. People on the Left frequently revert to emotion as a means of argumentation because their ideology is largely feeling-based. It further leads them to argue from a normative point of view (what should be) as opposed to an empirical one (what is) and also to invert cause and effect in order to avoid unpleasant realities.


29 posted on 02/01/2012 8:32:51 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: MrB
LOL. That was one of my father's favorite jokes. Here's another:

How many Jewish mothers does it take to change a light bulb?
"Don't bother: I'll sit in the dark".

30 posted on 02/01/2012 8:37:01 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ed who?


31 posted on 02/01/2012 8:44:08 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’ve been called a bully many times. I wear the label with pride.


32 posted on 02/01/2012 1:15:06 PM PST by I_be_tc
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