Obama continues ban on importation of 600,000 historical, collectible M1 Carbine rifles;

Buckeye Firerams Association ^ | 31 January, 2012 | Chad D. Baus

[Jack Burton007]

The M1 Garand has a fixed 8 round magazine that you load via a clip that you push down into the rifle. When the last round is fired the clip ejects from the rifle and you are ready to load the next clip into the magazine.

What the M1 carbine has is a detachable magazine that can hold from 15 to 30 rounds. A clip is not needed unless you are loading the magazine from the open bolt of the rifle.

The old saying is “you can load a magazine with a clip, but you can’t load a clip with a magazine”.

[Condor51]

*** So, which is it? ***

'It' is not Magazine vs No Magazine. As they both have 'magazines'.

'It' is the fact that the .30 cal M1 Carbine comes with a standard 15 round, (cough-BS) 'high capacity', detachable magazine. While the 30-06 cal M1 Garand has an eight round, 'fixed', internal magazine (which is typically 'Clip' fed. But can be done by hand too, like with my 5 round 8mm Mauser, or an SKS)

So regardless of the facts of the ballistics between the two 'rifle rounds₍₁₎' the gun-grabbers naturally assume that if us knuckle-draggers got these Carbines we'd immediately buy a dozen 30 round magazines and go on killing sprees.

HERE is a picture of the two rifles.

(1) Ruger makes, or used to, a Blackhawk model revolver in .30 cal carbine. Fun little round to shoot. Kinda like an up scaled .22LR

[green iguana]

Thanks - I had a feeling I had gotten that part wrong.

I need to get me a Garand...

[cuban leaf]

—The old saying is “you can load a magazine with a clip, but you can’t load a clip with a magazine”.—

What irritates me is when people load magazines with ads.

[I Shall Endure]

I agree with you. I was just pointing out some of the “logic” behind the ban.

[Jack Burton007]

Well then you can just “clip” the ads out of the “magazine” and you’ll be good to go.

[andy58-in-nh]

Thanks. This Administration is just invariably hostile to gun owners, no matter what their reasoning. As a practical matter, I wonder how hard it would be to control a weapon firing .30-06 rounds at a high rate, even on a tripod. My shoulder hurts just thinking about it.

[cuban leaf]

Good one! :-)

[Mariner]

So we’ll just have to buy another Ruger Mini-30!

[MrB]

More like “us knuckle-draggers would go buy a dozen 30 rd magazines and be ready for them when they tried their communist revolution”

[SampleMan]

I also have two M1 carbines and three Garands. I bet that little toy .30 carbine round is a lot meaner than whatever pistol you carry, especially with hollow points.

I’ve found the carbines to be a joy to shoot and amazingly accurate (IBM and Underwood). Short and handy too.

The huge joke is the idea that the carbine is a repeater and the Garand isn’t. This is obviously the fear of having a photo of a magazine loaded carbine seen by ignorant anti-liberty folks, who don’t know any better.

By another CMP Garand boys and wait for Obama to hit the dustbin of history.

[SampleMan]

The Garand has an enbloc clip which holds eight and is inserted into the guns magazine. Upon last shot, it flies out.

The carbine takes a removable magazine (often referred to as a clip). These mags can also be loaded with stripper clips that are less bulky than removable magazines.

From a logical perspective, the Obama policy is idiocy designed to make the Brady bunch happy. M1 carbines go for $600-800 and aren't exactly common thug weapons.

However, right-wingers love them.

[SampleMan]

The Garand has an internal magazine which can be reasonably quickly loaded with a stripper clip (you strip the rounds out of the clip and into the magazine.)

Nope. The Garand doesn't take a stripper clip. It takes an enbloc clip.

[cuban leaf]

—However, right-wingers love them.—

But aren’t right-wingers evil? So this is a good thing, right?

[mcshot]

I bought a M1 carbine from Sears that was custom stocked in beautifully grained wood. It was a commercial post war “Universal”? action that just would not reliably cycle as action was rough. Still had a blast with it using reloads in 30 round “banana” mags. I sold it with others when I enlisted in 68.

[jboot]

The CMP still has loose-packed Greek M2 ball for $0.50 a round plus shipping. I joined up last year just to buy ammo.

It ain't much like the good old days, but it's something.

[donozark]

Wonder if any of these carbines are configured in Para-Carbine fashion? Folding stock?

[choirboy]

These clips remain in the magazine until the last shot is fired, then are automatically ejected.

Ka-Ching!

[Paperpusher]

The Garand has an internal magazine that will not detach.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

mitt will outlaw them as assault weapons... go ahead... ask him.

Ture dat. They are already illegal in MA...because of der Mittster. Any mag over 10 rounds is illegal because of that two faced, double-dealing POS.

I would LOVE to have an M1 Carbine. Such a nice rifle. [sigh].