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Paul: Immigration not solved by barbed wire, guns
http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/paul-immigration-not-solved-by-barbed-wire/87d46 ^ | Feb. 1, 2012 | OregonLive

Posted on 02/01/2012 5:45:30 PM PST by moonshinner_09

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul outlined his views on immigration Wednesday, saying he favors a compassionate policy that doesn't rely on "barbed-wire fences and guns on our border."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; or; sourcetitlenoturl
Paul also said he was against laws that require immigrants to carry proof of legal status. He says he doesn't want to live in a country where people are required to carry identity papers.Isn't it already federal law lawful immigrants are required to carry their documents ?
1 posted on 02/01/2012 5:45:37 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
He says he doesn't want to live in a country where people are required to carry identity papers.

I'm not required to carry Identification papers unless I'm driving.
2 posted on 02/01/2012 5:49:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: moonshinner_09

I used to think he was just insane and delusional, I have changed my mind, to he is purposefully evil.
My loathing is growing for this man and his supporters daily.


3 posted on 02/01/2012 5:52:06 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: moonshinner_09

So much for the claim that Ron Paul is “incorruptible.” He speaks to a group of Hispanics, and suddenly his opposition to illegal immigration is only theoretical. He doesn’t want to deport them or punish them. The best he can say is that every consideration should be made for them going home but he realizes that they are all here to pursue the American dream.

What a coincidence that his views match those of his audience exactly.


4 posted on 02/01/2012 5:52:31 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: svcw

he favors a compassionate policy that doesn’t rely on “barbed-wire fences and guns on our border.”

He has a problem with guns too?


5 posted on 02/01/2012 5:54:25 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: moonshinner_09

I don’t like barbed wire either. Razor wire is much better.


6 posted on 02/01/2012 5:55:04 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Brilliant
...they are all here to pursue the American dream.

Why does nobody ever ask "Why isn't there a Mexican dream?"?

7 posted on 02/01/2012 5:55:30 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Why does nobody ever ask “Why isn’t there a Mexican dream?”?

Because the Mexican dream is to sneak across the border into the US.


8 posted on 02/01/2012 5:58:00 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: moonshinner_09

When he leaves his house, does he lock the door to keep out “undocumented houseguests”?


9 posted on 02/01/2012 6:00:22 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: moonshinner_09

So once again, the interests of American citizens are to be sold out to help illegal aliens. This country must be insane.


10 posted on 02/01/2012 6:02:07 PM PST by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: moonshinner_09
It's already federal law that real immigrants have to carry official identification. Fake non-immigrants who slip in illegally are not subject to these laws.

Paul is nuts.

The 90% of the illegals who come from Mexico are no more than a three day drive to their own homes.

Try this: It is racist to assume that being sent back to Mexico is a punishment. It's one of the better countries in the world to live.

11 posted on 02/01/2012 6:02:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Brilliant

If I was one of the 99% of all Mexicans who are just absolutely dirt-poor, that would probably be my dream, too.

Doesn’t say much for a country when the primary goal of essentially all its citizens is to GTFO.

That said, it doesn’t mean I approve of them trying to come here.


12 posted on 02/01/2012 6:03:32 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Brilliant
Definition of PANDER. intransitive verb. : to act as a pander; especially : to provide gratification for others' desires to pander to somebody -> complacer a alguien; to pander to somebody's views -> someterse a la opinión de alguien ...
13 posted on 02/01/2012 6:03:56 PM PST by tumblindice ("ghetto masses" Cloward-Piven's own words)
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To: moonshinner_09
Related: Ron Paul says Latinos have become 'scapegoats' (Like Jews in Nazi Germany) - Barf Alert
14 posted on 02/01/2012 6:05:34 PM PST by mnehring
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To: svcw
“I used to think he was just insane and delusional, I have changed my mind, to he is purposefully evil.
My loathing is growing for this man and his supporters daily.”

Gee for once I agree with RP, In addition th guns and wire we should have antipersonnel mines (LOT'S of them), search lights, quick response teams, attack helis and so on.. just my opinion of course. F.. k RP!

15 posted on 02/01/2012 6:07:18 PM PST by mongo141
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To: Brilliant

I would disagree.
There is nothing compassionate with alterPaul.
He is a fraud, it is that simple.
His 30 second sound bites are fantastic but when you start actually listening to every thing he says and has written he is dangerous.
I know many people who support him, they are kind and gentle people, if you present them with facts and do not tell them these are things that alterPaul has said they are mortified. When you inform them these are alterPaul’s words they deny it.
He needs to go away, preferably to the democrat party, he would be way more comfortable there.


16 posted on 02/01/2012 6:11:02 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Paul: Immigration not solved by barbed wire, guns

No, it's solved by SMOKING FREE DOPE! FREE DOPE FOR EVERYBODY!

17 posted on 02/01/2012 6:11:29 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: mongo141

(((like))))


18 posted on 02/01/2012 6:13:00 PM PST by svcw (For the new year: you better toughen You up, if you are going to continue to be stupid.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Does anybody really think any Prez will do anything about illegal Immigration , except to repeat what 0bama is already repeating,after they get in office, ?


19 posted on 02/01/2012 6:13:50 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
All right! I get to post my previous reply again!

Immigration not solved by barbed wire, guns
Since it hasn't been tried how does he know?

20 posted on 02/01/2012 6:18:17 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Brilliant

Entirely consistent. Doesn’t matter the group, Paul panders. Truthers, racists, illegal immigrants, doesn’t matter.

One of the days, maybe his supporters will realize Paul is a con man. I wonder if one of the reasons he’s running is to pad his retirement account.


21 posted on 02/01/2012 6:18:51 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: moonshinner_09

I don’t have a problem with immigrants.

I have a problem with people who don’t speak English.

As far as I am concerned, if they can speak English clearly, leave them alone.
If they can’t speak English that should be probably cause to hold then pending proof of citizenship while starting deportation proceedings.

Assimilate, buy into the melting pot I don’t care where you are from, how long you’ve been here or how you got here; don’t assimilate I don’t care if you’re from Mexico or the Middle East, go the hell away.

The purpose of our immigration policy should be to brain drain the rest of the world; to get the best and the brightest here and make them taxpaying, Star Spangled Banner singing AMERICANS, paperwork be damned. I have more respect for someone who just hopped the Rio Grande who will learn my language and merge into my culture than some lazy Nintendo playing too proud to work punk who happened to be born on this side of the border.


22 posted on 02/01/2012 6:25:42 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Perhaps...
But ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION sure as hell is!


23 posted on 02/01/2012 6:34:55 PM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: cripplecreek

Wanna bet!

Try jay walking in a liberal downtown area.
Try nodding off on a park bench or lite rail.
And I’m not talking about curling up and taking residence.

Vagrancy!


24 posted on 02/01/2012 6:40:11 PM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: svcw

Amen and ditto on that.

These people are sick.


25 posted on 02/01/2012 6:42:37 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: G Larry
Those all appear to be urban issues.

"I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice."

-Thomas Jefferson.
26 posted on 02/01/2012 6:46:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: moonshinner_09

Cover the border with photos of Ron Paul ...That oughta scare them away !


27 posted on 02/01/2012 6:47:14 PM PST by sushiman
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To: philman_36

Point well made. too bad you cannot direct this question to him in person. All of them flip flop,they say whatever needs said, wherever they are at. It changes day to day


28 posted on 02/01/2012 7:12:51 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: Brilliant
Why does nobody ever ask “Why isn’t there a Mexican dream?”?

Because the Mexican dream is to sneak across the border into the US.


"Hey! I'm living the Mexican Dream! Hehehe..."

Carlos Slim Helu is the richest man in the world for the 2nd year in row (beat out Gates and Buffett). Conservatives need to start asking Mexicans why they aren't redistributing his wealth!

29 posted on 02/01/2012 7:31:09 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I’ve been telling everyone Paul is an open borders nut, but they argued with me. I used to get his newsletters back in the late 80’s and they were most definitely for open borders then. Its what convinced me that Libertarians were not the way to go.


30 posted on 02/01/2012 7:45:07 PM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: Brilliant

He only has a problem with guns when they are in the hands of the State but is a strong supporter of the right of the people to bear arms. In Paul’s world only the people would have the right to self defense while the State would have to fend for itself without a budget & would be stymied by his antiquated view of the Constitution.


31 posted on 02/01/2012 8:41:52 PM PST by Republican1795.
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To: moonshinner_09

Thanks for this thread.

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” - - - saying he favors a compassionate policy - - - “

HEY! DR. PAUL! YEAH YOU!

I like compassion, you like compassion. I like immediate “Compassionate Deportation” of illegal aliens. How about you?

BTW, in our State of Texas, the Hospital District tax I pay would show me NO compassion if I would choose to refuse to pay my annual taxes so they can pay the emergency room bills that the illegal aliens will not pay.

The illegal aliens invasion is all about the money, Dr. Paul. It is all about the money.

BTW, BTW, were you not the Candidate who is supposed to be an expert on spending money on illegal causes? Be consistent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 02/01/2012 8:54:29 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Brilliant

Lets give barb wire and machine guns a chance—they could close the border fast and furiously. Add a few mines, and a ten foot cement walls and about half a million men to guard the thing and we can seal the border air tight. I say no one North or south for a full year—just to sort things out.


33 posted on 02/01/2012 9:30:57 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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