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Read Between The Lines: Hollywood Mogul Buys 2,600 Acres Of Farmland; Moving To New Zealand
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Posted on 02/01/2012 8:54:40 PM PST by blam

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To: blam

I’m good..


41 posted on 02/02/2012 1:54:24 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Eska

Although one thing in favor of New Zealand is that it isn’t 60 below zero.


42 posted on 02/02/2012 2:09:59 AM PST by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: Stanwood_Dave

I love Rotorua.

You get used to the odor and they use the steam to heat their homes.

The thing about NZ, for me, is the quakes. We have friends there and have discussed enduring the interminable plane ride just to escape, if necessary. However, our friends (one US ex-pat and his Kiwi wife) keep us informed and NZ tends to go back and forth between what we would call Democrats and outright Marxists. As a tiny island nation, a lot of things are only available as imports. Gasoline is pricey and so are homes. The Maori have control of the coasts and long-time native whites can be totally paranoid about Asians.

Still, it is a lovely place.


43 posted on 02/02/2012 4:17:48 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Jonty30

2600 acres isn’t really that big.


44 posted on 02/02/2012 4:31:38 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

Its over 4 square miles.

1 square mile is 640 acres.

It may not seem much during times of peace, but when you have hungry, angry, and determined people, its huge.


45 posted on 02/02/2012 4:33:39 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

from what I can tell, life is hard. I haven’t enjoyed life in years. Just tolerated it.


46 posted on 02/02/2012 4:40:54 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jonty30

No it’s not huge, it’s what you would call mid sized at best and a lot of people wouldn’t even call it mid sized.

It’s just a matter of perspective.

People from the city call our property huge, and it’s only around 500 acres.

2600 acres might seam like a lot at first, but it “shrinks” once you are actually there for awhile.


47 posted on 02/02/2012 4:57:25 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Jonty30

No it’s not huge, it’s what you would call mid sized at best and a lot of people wouldn’t even call it mid sized.

It’s just a matter of perspective.

People from the city call our property huge, and it’s only around 500 acres.

2600 acres might seam like a lot at first, but it “shrinks” once you are actually there for awhile.


48 posted on 02/02/2012 4:57:25 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

As I said, in times of peace, it is not very big at all. Do not misunderstand me I used to live in an area of farms. I know how big 4 square miles is.

But if you have a hoards of people encroaching on your land, who are hungry, angry, determined, weaponed, etc, it’s a lot of land to try and defend. Especially if you’re by yourself, because most of your employees had to go defend their property and families from these same angry and hungry hoards. It’s a lot to defend. Don’t think that, just because you have a gun(s), that you can possibly defend a property that size effectively.

You’re not going to have employees, or many at least, to help defend you in a time of crisis, because they will busy trying to defend their own families and won’t give too much thought to you and your families.


49 posted on 02/02/2012 5:06:05 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30
One thing about land, you can't pick it up and walk off with it so you don't need to try and defend all of it.

If you had to defend anything it would be your house just like everyone else, only you would have a nice buffer zone around your house.

There are a lot of easier and better pickings than a single house out in the middle of nowhere.

A lot of isolated farms also have houses for the farm hands and their families.

50 posted on 02/02/2012 5:28:57 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: palmer
It was minus 64 last sunday morning, today plus 35. But ya have to put up with some things like weather to get away from crime, taxes, congestion, societal collapse, the entire melt down of how it use to be over most of America.

I know different strokes for everybody and that's fine. I just don't fault anybody who wants to save their family or improve their lives from where it's going in the lower 48.

Couldn't imagine losing all the freedom & happiness I have here in rural Alaska and living down there ever again. Just personal choices. In fact I'd rather be living in a tent along the Yukon than ever seeing the lower 48 ever again.

51 posted on 02/02/2012 6:39:55 AM PST by Eska
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To: iowamark

New Zealanders and Australians would be speaking Japanese today if not for the US Army, Navy, and Marine Corps.
_________________________________________________

Thats what my father told me constantly as I was growing up...

We owed a debt of gratitude to America...

and to never forget it...

I wonder which island the farm is on...


52 posted on 02/02/2012 6:46:40 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney went to Florida and spent $25,000,000 and all he got was a couple of lousy delegates)
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To: Eska
"Couldn't imagine losing all the freedom & happiness I have here in rural Alaska and living down there ever again. Just personal choices. In fact I'd rather be living in a tent along the Yukon than ever seeing the lower 48 ever again. "

That reminded me of something my dad used to say,

"Don't be such a stranger."

53 posted on 02/02/2012 6:47:22 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
The message is loud and clear. Are you listening?

Why go to an island if you think the turd is going to hit the air movement device? Any island like New Zealand would be stripped clean like Easter Island. I think he has political motivations for his move.

54 posted on 02/02/2012 6:54:23 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: palmer

one thing in favor of New Zealand is that it isn’t 60 below zero.
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I hated the winters there

the frosts are awful...

yes theres little snow but it was still cold...

In TN I can go all winter sometimes without wearing gloves..

The only time I have this winter was 2 weeks ago in Atlanta, GA...

But not in NZ...sometimes it would be bitter cold...


55 posted on 02/02/2012 6:54:56 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Romney went to Florida and spent $25,000,000 and all he got was a couple of lousy delegates)
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To: blam
2.7 million people live in Chicago in an area of 10,000 square miles. Comparing the number you cited to a place where 130 people live is a bit ridiculous, wouldn't you say?

Now, in that same month, how many people in Chicago dined at a fine restaurant? How many went to a world class museum? How many took in a play? Went to a Bulls game?

Now, how many people in that little place in Alaska did any of those things?

56 posted on 02/02/2012 7:45:43 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Don W

No, I didn’t think I’m real stupid. Now, may I remind you that is it against the policy of this forum to engage in personal attacks? May I also remind you that this forum is based in Fresno, California, a city of 500,000 people? How many servers are there to handle this much web traffic in small little hamlets?

With that out of the way, may I now ask you to point out where I wrote that the crime rate is the same in big cities as in small towns. I didn’t write that did I? I responded to the statement that “life is just better” in sleepy little villages. If the criteria is only crime, then I guess that’s true. Of course there’s more to life than that. Anyway, I simply cited a few examples to show that it’s not accurate to state that there is “no crime” in such places. Much less, yes, but crime doesn’t vanish in such places. Maybe it’s not stupid but rather naive or dishonest to think human nature changes when there’s fewer of us around.

My bigger point is that some people don’t like living like it’s still 1940. They like jet travel, and more dining and entertainment options than venison at your neighbors’ house half a mile away, or story telling around the fireplace, more places to go and see things besides the forest or fishing in the local stream.

Big city life, or even the suburbs for that matter, is not for everyone. Neither is rural living.


57 posted on 02/02/2012 8:01:41 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: yldstrk

That’s how Ted Kaczynski felt.


58 posted on 02/02/2012 8:02:58 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Jonty30
But if you have a hoards of people encroaching on your land, who are hungry, angry, determined, weaponed, etc, it’s a lot of land to try and defend.

Don't have to defend all of it. Mainly the house.

One thing about farms is that crops aren't ready to eat all year round. You plant a crop, look after it as it grows, harvest it, and then do something with the harvest (sell it or preserve it). After the harvest, it's either sitting in storage near the house, or it's been sold.

In the middle ages, barons didn't build a wall around their whole estates. They built a defensible castle and put the harvest and valuables inside the castle.

59 posted on 02/02/2012 8:06:31 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Prepper’s Ping!


60 posted on 02/02/2012 4:37:48 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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