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Illinois State Board Of Electors Overrule 3 Ballot Challenges Against Barack Obama
http://www.elections.il.gov/ElectionInformation/CandDetail.aspx?CandidateID=17550&ElectionID=32 ^

Posted on 02/02/2012 5:41:27 PM PST by Obama Exposer

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Will this set precedent for other state ballot challenges? The hearing officer completely ignores Minor v Happersett and states the PDF of Obama's long form birth certificate establishes natural born citizenship for Barack Obama.
1 posted on 02/02/2012 5:41:38 PM PST by Obama Exposer
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To: Obama Exposer

I hope (and frankly doubt) Georgia will give a damn what Illinois thinks.


2 posted on 02/02/2012 5:45:24 PM PST by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: Obama Exposer

Why do you always add “SarahPalin” as a keyword to your eligibility threads?


3 posted on 02/02/2012 5:47:00 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Obama Exposer

Not sure how they reached their decision but what does Obama’s PDF file certificate have to do, or show, regarding the citizenship of his father at the time of Obama’s birth - wherever it happened. Isn’t that the question before the court here? We’re beyond that other stuff and getting to the real crux of the matter with that question.

With that said, I know some people who work at the ISBE and to put it mildly and as nicely as possible; they aren’t the brightest bulbs in the string.


4 posted on 02/02/2012 5:47:33 PM PST by RonInNaples
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To: Obama Exposer


5 posted on 02/02/2012 5:51:25 PM PST by traditional1 (Stay thirsty, my friends.)
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To: Obama Exposer
This is actually good news, my FRiends.

Eligibility is a super loser of an issue. It's a Grand Snipe Hunt that Marxist Obama and his minders want us to pursue. I fully acknowledge that the BC issue is likely legit, but the dark forces can fog this in the courts for decades.

A better issue exists!

That better issue is Marxist Obama has never released his full, complete, unxpurgated, unedited, and unscrubbed college transcripts (including his full name right there on the official and unmodified documents).

Please let go of the eligibility loser! Transcripts is the winning issue.

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6 posted on 02/02/2012 5:51:37 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: TheZMan

I thought Georgia was supposed to rule today. What happened?


7 posted on 02/02/2012 5:52:38 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: Seaplaner

What does Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 mean to you and this country?


8 posted on 02/02/2012 5:53:19 PM PST by Obama Exposer
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To: humblegunner

She has a loyal base that reads about her here. Putting this topic there will gain exposure. It’s really simple logic.


9 posted on 02/02/2012 5:55:03 PM PST by Obama Exposer
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To: Obama Exposer

What is the Reson for overrule, they gotta give something more than “he is our brotha!”


10 posted on 02/02/2012 5:57:12 PM PST by alex2011
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To: Obama Exposer

Nah, it won’t. This is what I expected from a state dominated by corrupt Chicago politics.


11 posted on 02/02/2012 6:00:40 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Seaplaner

LOL

yea, forget those pathetic Constitutional requirements, the real issue is what grade he got in his sophomore humanities class!

seriously, you need to learn how to troll better


12 posted on 02/02/2012 6:07:52 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: CommieCutter

I don’t know.


13 posted on 02/02/2012 6:08:22 PM PST by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: Obama Exposer

While true, it’s also technically an abuse of the keyword feature which pollutes the pool when people go to search for things relevant to the keyword they’re entering.


14 posted on 02/02/2012 6:09:35 PM PST by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: TheZMan

Someone just posted this. It’s live

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/askshow/2012/02/03/the-andrea-shea-king-show?ie8c=0


15 posted on 02/02/2012 6:21:55 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: TheZMan; Obama Exposer

So it’s basically keyword bait-and-switch, and as zman states, abuse of an otherwise useful feature.


16 posted on 02/02/2012 6:42:22 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Obama Exposer

I cannot find the decisions on any of these cases on the site. It is not surprising. They probably used Amendment XIV along with the “he was born here” nonsense. This means all of the judges flunked grammar in grade school.


17 posted on 02/02/2012 7:29:38 PM PST by devattel
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To: sten
yea, forget those pathetic Constitutional requirements, the real issue is what grade he got in his sophomore humanities class! seriously, you need to learn how to troll better

Your first statement is essentially correct, my FRiend (except the sarcastic "pathetic" adjective). Although not certain (I've heard compelling arguments by conservatives on both sides) I do know that Marxist Obama's judges can keep this matter unsettled for a decade or more; and his obedient peeps in the media can ridicule those who want a thorough investigation, turning right minded and good people, just like you into objects of derision during the campaign season.

I also know that the subject distracts from more promising investigations. What is Obama hiding? Did he fail, or even take Econ 101 A and B? Did he use an alias? Did he have any "issues" that would appear on his transcripts (academic probation comes to mind)?

And, if he is not forthcoming, then THAT is an issue.

I'm not saying that Marxist Obama is legally entitled to be president (I don't know). I'm saying that other issues would be more compelling to Joe and Josephine Sixpack, who can be led astray by the media on BC authenticity; but would feel that college records are reasonable things to know about a pres or pres candidate.

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18 posted on 02/02/2012 8:48:24 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: alex2011

The Hearing Examiner accepted a photocopy of Obama’s alleged LFBC as being conclusive proof that Obama is a natural-born citizen, even though the examiner doesn’t cite a basis for how NBC is defined. There were also a few procedural glitches that seemed to have interefered with the way the objections were filed.


19 posted on 02/02/2012 10:30:10 PM PST by edge919
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To: Obama Exposer
Putting this topic there will gain exposure.

Since that topic has nothing to do with the subject matter, what it's gained you is a reputation as a lying piece of garbage.

20 posted on 02/03/2012 12:50:11 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Seaplaner

yea, let’s go after his schools grades... which he has zer0 reasons to hand over and is in no way legally required... and when he says ‘no’, then joe 6-pack will care

really? seriously??

he’s already said ‘no’ on providing eligibility documentation and justification... as he’s legally bound to do in order to be on the ballot. this is DIRECTLY related to his presidency and the qualifications for the job. THAT’S something joe 6-pack can relate to.

on top of that, the social security number he’s been using isn’t his. this links directly to identity theft... which people are afraid of and will cast him as the type of villain they have feared in their personal lives.

to pile on... there are the other 20+ social security numbers that have been found associated with his name and addresses over the years.

all that is FAR more compelling to joe 6-pack then poor grades in commie 101. hell, joe 6-pack doesn’t see socialism, communism or marxism as anything to fear these days. holding up his report card will go nowhere


21 posted on 02/03/2012 3:20:04 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten; Seaplaner
Actually Seaplaner is correct, the college records are a more pertinent indicator of Obamas citizenship status.

Not only was Obama born to parents of 2 different countries, he was adopted as a child by a man with a third nationality.

Children with multiple nationalities have to choose when they reach the age of majority [18] as to which country they will be recognized as a citizen of.

Obamas college records will show which citizenship he gave when he enrolled.......and THAT'S the one he's legally bound too.

22 posted on 02/03/2012 3:47:13 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the law of Man)
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To: MamaTexan
Children with multiple nationalities have to choose when they reach the age of majority [18] as to which country they will be recognized as a citizen of.

if you have a choice of citizenship... then you cannot be natural born.

a natural born citizen is someone that is 'naturally' a citizen, as there are no alternatives.

born on American soil... to two citizen parents... the child can only be American.

QED

(unless you're trying to cloud the issue to help the left, in which case it must be discussed in more detail until everyone listening is in a coma)

the birth certificate is needed as it's the only official documentation of his parent's citizenship at the time of his birth. most likely why they released a forgery... so people would get stuck on that detail (until they get the original, after much foot dragging) and not on the main issue

23 posted on 02/03/2012 3:57:57 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
if you have a choice of citizenship... then you cannot be natural born.

Which is true. I never made the argument otherwise.

The fact is, the populace at large is ignorant of the matter, but seeing what the pResident himself listed AS his nationality would be the definitive answer to that ignorant populace. You can bet your sweet bippy he DIDN'T choose American.

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born on American soil... to two citizen parents...

Actually, you can be born anywhere. Since natural-born citizenship is inherited, your location at birth is immaterial.

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unless you're trying to cloud the issue to help the left

Honestly, I'm getting pretty tired of this type of innuendo. If you have an accusation to make, DO IT and quit pussyfooting around.

If you have doubts as to my position, you can check for yourself. I have a long history of posts concerning this subject.

24 posted on 02/03/2012 5:01:27 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the law of Man)
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To: MamaTexan
Actually, you can be born anywhere. Since natural-born citizenship is inherited, your location at birth is immaterial.

this is incorrect. if you're born in another country, many times this is enough to allow you to have citizenship in that country... thereby giving you a choice.

Honestly, I'm getting pretty tired of this type of innuendo. If you have an accusation to make, DO IT and quit pussyfooting around.

the 'you' i used was the general 'you', not the specific

25 posted on 02/03/2012 5:19:05 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Seaplaner
"This is actually good news, my FRiends. Eligibility is a super loser of an issue. It's a Grand Snipe Hunt that Marxist Obama and his minders want us to pursue. I fully acknowledge that the BC issue is likely legit, but the dark forces can fog this in the courts for decades. A better issue exists! That better issue is Marxist Obama has never released his full, complete, unxpurgated, unedited, and unscrubbed college transcripts (including his full name right there on the official and unmodified documents). Please let go of the eligibility loser! Transcripts is the winning issue."

You should be tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.

You are a coward and a traitor.

26 posted on 02/03/2012 6:15:34 AM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: sten
the birth certificate is needed as it's the only official documentation of his parent's citizenship at the time of his birth.

What birth certificate lists a parent's citizenship? The BCs I've seen only list parents' place of birth --and since parents filling out the information to be listed on their child's BC don't have to provide any actual proof of where they were born, they're free to enter whatever they wish into the field asking for their place of birth.

27 posted on 02/03/2012 8:04:49 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Obama Exposer
I think the word you are looking for instead of ignored is dismissed. Like it or not, the legal system views Wong Kim Ark as the guiding precedent.

Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana reflects current legal consensus on NBC:

“based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”

Many here disagree and I respect their views but the idea that the judicial system will do a radical 180 on the issue is wishful thinking at best.

28 posted on 02/03/2012 12:00:31 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Obama Exposer
...the PDF of Obama's long form birth certificate...

The PDF should never have been accepted as proof of anything, as it is not a tangible original document.

Even if it were to come from a legitimate original document, it is not the original legitimate document itself, nor is it an authorized, embossed issue from an authoritive source.

What slippery slope will we be headed down if our courts start accepting virtual evidence in place of real evidence?

-PJ

29 posted on 02/03/2012 12:09:24 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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