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Fast and Furious: Groundhog Day at House Oversight - Holder clings to the stone wall.
Human Events ^ | 02/02/2012 | John Hayward

Posted on 02/02/2012 6:33:08 PM PST by neverdem

Attorney General Eric Holder’s testimony before the House Oversight Committee today was, in the main, a re-run of past appearances before Congress. He kept the stone wall firm and tight, while angrily denying he was running a cover-up, and accusing investigators of running “political gotcha games.”

Here’s Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R-NY) cutting to the chase, and asking Holder how many more U.S. Border Patrol agents would have had to die as part of Operation Fast and Furious before the Attorney General would finally take responsibility:

Holder continued his “incompetence defense” of insisting that he really doesn’t know anything that happens at the Justice Department, and can’t recall details about anything relating to Fast and Furious. He even claimed he never saw some of the subpoenas he’s been ignoring.

Rep. Buerkle noted the strange silence from our famously talkative President on the subject of Eric Holder and Operation Fast and Furious. Holder continued to insist he has never discussed Fast and Furious with either Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, or Secretary of State Hillary Clinton… this despite hundreds of Mexican citizens being killed by Holder’s “botched gun walking operation.” Holder actually tried suggesting to Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) that nobody else in the Administration wants to talk to him, because they’re afraid of getting dragged into the politically-motivated Fast and Furious investigation.

Courtesy of The Right Scoop, here’s an amazing exchange where Holder vows to crack down on the people who blew the whistle on Fast and Furious. Holder later confessed he has never apologized to the completely vindicated whistleblowers whose veracity he had previously questioned.

Although Holder continues to insist he’s a team player and the paragon of transparency, an annoyed Rep. Dan Burton (R-IN) pointed out that Holder’s withholding of documents contrasts sharply with the way his predecessors handled subpoena, and called Holder’s tactics “baloney,” concluding that “there are some things hidden on this documents that you don’t want us to see”:

It’s easy to understand Rep. Burton’s surprised reaction to learning that Arizona U.S. Attorney’s Office Criminal Division Chief Patrick Cunningham quit just days after taking the Fifth Amendment to escape giving Fast and Furious testimony… or Rep. Darrell Issa’s incredulous response when Holder claimed there’s nothing fishy about Cunningham’s actions. Happily, Holder promised to continue reviewing Justice Department documents pertaining to Cunningham’s actions, and will hand over anything he decides Congress should see. Hopefully Issa and Burton know better than to hold their breath waiting for those new documents.

Holder deflected other questions by referencing the antique “internal investigation” into Fast and Furious his department is supposedly conducting – an inquest that has now run for several months longer than the investigation into JFK’s assassination. He promised that anyone accused of wrongdoing when this epic probe is completed – presumably at some point after the next presidential election, or maybe the one after that – would be “removed from federal service.”

As for the contempt of Congress charges Issa has threatened Holder with, my prediction yesterday was proven true: Holder rejected the February 9th deadline laid out in Issa’s letter, and will evidently ignore the contempt charges.

Holder, echoed by Democrats on the Oversight Committee, also took the opportunity to renew their calls for more gun-control laws, which many suspect was the true purpose of Operation Fast and Furious all along.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; clinton; cunningham; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; janetnapolitano; napolitano; obama; patrickcunningham; statedept
There are at least 2 vtdeos at the source. In the first, Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R-NY) said she had at least 30 questions from residents of her district about F&F. So much for the general ignorance about F&F, the lame stream media isn't needed any more if you want to be informed.
1 posted on 02/02/2012 6:33:12 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

In the face of such blatant arrogance will Congress simply kick the can down the road some more in the hopes that Americans will forget or lose interest?


2 posted on 02/02/2012 6:43:51 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Yes, the totally gutless, spineless, and brain dead Stupid Party members don't want to get the Mainstream Media to say nasty stuff about them. Oh, oh, oh.
3 posted on 02/02/2012 6:54:25 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: philman_36
In the face of such blatant arrogance will Congress simply kick the can down the road some more in the hopes that Americans will forget or lose interest?

In the face of a spineless GOP running Congress, I take that as a rhetorical question.
4 posted on 02/02/2012 6:57:46 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: neverdem

This pig and his fellow ‘RATS want more “gun control”. Unless they can disarm We the People, their dream of a communist America will never happen.


5 posted on 02/02/2012 6:59:48 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

It ain’t over ‘til it’s over. Ping.


6 posted on 02/02/2012 7:06:05 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Cheerio
In the face of a spineless GOP running Congress...
Congress is split between the two parties. The blame is equal enough for both.

...I take that as a rhetorical question.
It was intended as such. I guess I needed to add an /rhetorical after all.

7 posted on 02/02/2012 7:19:27 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: neverdem
Groundhog Day

I almost fell over. How fitting.

8 posted on 02/02/2012 7:20:33 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?

"What should I put on my swollen lip, Bill?"
"Just ice."

9 posted on 02/02/2012 7:23:33 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: neverdem
In the first, Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R-NY) said she had at least 30 questions from residents of her district about F&F. So much for the general ignorance about F&F, ...

I noted that too. It still does matter that we contact our congress critters even if they happen to be Rats. I have sent mine my thoughts on F&F before and now I will definitely let them hear it again.

10 posted on 02/02/2012 7:30:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: neverdem; All
Until/unless the GOP-e takes this issue seriously and exercises the power of the US Congress, this is little more than a silly side show.

Anyone who take the House, under GOP-e control is silly too!

11 posted on 02/02/2012 7:56:12 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: neverdem

About 1/3 of the way into the proceedings, Holder ridiculed the idea that the program would result in more 2d amendment restrictions by the government.

About ten minutes later he tried to make the case that what was need to avoid this kind of thing in the future was more ‘statutory’ gun restrictions.

The dems on the committee not only put the blame squarely on Bush 43, but they had the audacity to go back to Reagan. The impression they gave was that this was Reagan’s idea and the the program ran straight through Bush 41 into Bush 43 with no other presidents.

Also, the talking point defense for the dems is, “Bush started this program and if only the administration had known about it, we would have put a stop to it. Now its turned into a political witch hunt by whitey against the First Black President...”

Sheesh. God bless Rep Issa and anyone who will defend America from tyranny.

Kit.


12 posted on 02/02/2012 8:06:09 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Just about every Democrat house member referenced Groundhog Day In their questioning! They considered this hearing as a joke!

I didn't!!!

All the Democrat house members did was repeat the Democrat talking points and gave praise to Holder's excellent running of the Justice Dept.

Issa tried his best to keep the hearing on track!

13 posted on 02/02/2012 8:14:58 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: philman_36
What I was being sarcastic about is in the lame stream media, the do nothing GOP congress is all the fault of the GOP. They never ever bring up the 15-20 jobs bills that Boehner and the boys have sent over to Harry Roid’s trash basket.
14 posted on 02/02/2012 8:46:37 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: neverdem

Perhaps the funniest moment of the hearings is when Kucinch pronounced it “groundshog day”. What a dumba$$!

And Labrador really b*tch slapped Holder to the point where poor little Eric cried that he wasn’t being respected. LOL


15 posted on 02/02/2012 8:49:34 PM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: neverdem
Yep, here we go again with the Clintonian Incompetence Defense, a la Sandy Berger.

"We're not evil, we're just stupid. We don't have any business being in charge of anything. But, we are. But, never mind that. Vote for us again."

16 posted on 02/02/2012 8:53:33 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Cheerio

Okay. My apologies.


17 posted on 02/02/2012 8:58:43 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: neverdem

If there was any real justice, Holder and Obama would be lined up against a stone wall at the end of this.


18 posted on 02/03/2012 1:34:06 AM PST by 60Gunner (Eternal vigilance or eternal rest. Make your choice.)
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To: 60Gunner

‘If there was any real justice, Holder and Obama would be lined up against a stone wall at the end of this.”

WHY WAIT?


19 posted on 02/03/2012 3:02:43 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: neverdem
I hope the perennially p!ssed Freepers at these F&F threads spend as much time leaning on their Congressional delegation as they do complaining here.
20 posted on 02/03/2012 3:40:52 AM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: neverdem; mickie
I watched the proceedings yesterday.

In truth, Holder and the Dems were in control throughout.

Issa labored weakly for a couple hours and ended up delivering a mouse.

He did manage to run a well-ordered meeting.....everyone was polite to each other...and No-Doze pills were available to the committee members and audience if needed.

Greta was the only one excited and passionate about the investigation last night when she interviewed and tried to prod the pleasant but uninspiring Issa.

Leni

21 posted on 02/03/2012 4:00:23 AM PST by MinuteGal
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