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How to spot a concealed handgun
Buckeye Firerams Association ^ | 2 February, 2012 | drieck

Posted on 02/04/2012 7:20:48 AM PST by marktwain

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Much can be done to combat giving these cues. One of the most important things is to be aware of them. The other is to be comfortable carrying your concealed gun by carrying it enough so that it becomes a part of your wardrobe. A third is to use a good holster so that you are secure in its location.
1 posted on 02/04/2012 7:20:57 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

My neighbor has a pocket holster. He carries a .32 in it. Looks like there is a wallet in his pocket.

You couldn’t tell.


2 posted on 02/04/2012 7:23:46 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Most Conservative in the Primary, the Republican Nominee in the General.)
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3 posted on 02/04/2012 7:25:09 AM PST by hoosiermama (FR Unite... Get active contacting MSM, RNC. etc... freepmail : Mountain Mary.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
One of these?

I've been eying these too. With a .380, it would be no larger than a wallet.

4 posted on 02/04/2012 7:27:36 AM PST by mnehring
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To: EQAndyBuzz

>> Looks like there is a wallet in his pocket.

OK — so where’s his real wallet?


5 posted on 02/04/2012 7:29:22 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: marktwain
I had a MIOBC buddy that went on to be a NYPD intel weenie. He told me that the easiest way to spot someone carrying a gun is by their behavior. If they look confident and alert (or paranoid), they probably have a firearm.

He said plain clothes officers would watch someone as they neared a uniformed cop and they would change their stride and their "power" arm on the side they carried their gun, as if to shield or protect it....a totally involuntary move that is very very detectable to the trained eye.

Good to know info!

6 posted on 02/04/2012 7:30:01 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Id rather have a man who wrecked his marriage as POTUS than a man who wrecked his country!)
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To: marktwain

Valuable bit of info. CCWs should study the pictures and train themselves to prevent giving off “tells” that they are carrying, and to spot the clues in others.


7 posted on 02/04/2012 7:30:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.)
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To: marktwain

8 posted on 02/04/2012 7:31:12 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain; EQAndyBuzz; hoosiermama; mnehring

I think that’s a bit of a mistake to concentrate on spotting concealed handguns. Like as not, the person carrying is doing so legitimately.

I’ve read that the numero uno survival skill among LEO’s is to know how to spot guys who’ve done time in prison. Armed or not, THEY’re to ones you need to watch out for.


9 posted on 02/04/2012 7:31:58 AM PST by sinanju (ua)
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To: marktwain

Handy information. I know that I subconsciously protect mine when I have to jog across a street or run up a flight of stairs. I’ll have to be more attentive.


10 posted on 02/04/2012 7:35:18 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: mnehring

I’d never use a holster that doesn’t guard the trigger. Very bad idea


11 posted on 02/04/2012 7:36:23 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: marktwain

I carry at the 5 o’clock, IWB Milt Sparks custom holster.
Light jacket, slightly oversized.

Driving is more comfortable than you would guess, but given poor access while seated, I will tuck it in front, leaving holster in back.

Sig P220 is larger than most carry weapons, so I carry at 5 o’’clock to avoid “printing” and maintain easy access.


12 posted on 02/04/2012 7:38:10 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: marktwain; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Good article. Save, print & study the PDF at the link.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

13 posted on 02/04/2012 7:39:39 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: wtc911

FYI


14 posted on 02/04/2012 7:42:16 AM PST by hoosiermama (FR Unite... Get active contacting MSM, RNC. etc... freepmail : Mountain Mary.)
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To: sinanju
Like as not, the person carrying is doing so legitimately.

Except in Bloomberg's NYC where the odds are 1 in 10,000 that the person packing is legal.

15 posted on 02/04/2012 7:42:48 AM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: marktwain
Here's a link to the PDF: Spotting a Hidden Handgun.

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16 posted on 02/04/2012 7:43:44 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: marktwain

When weather permits in southern AZ, I carry under a vest. I use an IWB holster, but wear it outside my pants with my belt tight around it. I can jog comfortably with it that way and feel no need to protect it.

In hot weather...it is darn near impossible to carry without anyone being able to guess. I’m thinking cargo shorts and carrying in a pocket may be as good as it gets.


17 posted on 02/04/2012 7:43:58 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: paul51
Wallet holsters that have a hole for the trigger, and allow firing of the pistol without removing it from the holster, have been ruled to be an AOW (Any Other Weapon) and subject to the NFA.

I've never seen the specific design shown in the picture above, so the fact that it does not cover the slide may be enough to make it legal. One of the catagories of AOW is any firearm modified to disquise it as being readily identified as a firearm.

18 posted on 02/04/2012 7:47:59 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Mr Rogers
I’m thinking cargo shorts and carrying in a pocket may be as good as it gets.

Yes. pocket holster, J frame, loose cargo pants, shirt out or jacket.

Shoulder holster under jacket? Anyone w/ experience?

19 posted on 02/04/2012 7:53:03 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: marktwain
Ultralite .38 snubbie with a pocket holster and speed strips make for ultimate concealment.

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Just carry it all the time and it becomes so natural nobody will know.

20 posted on 02/04/2012 7:53:39 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: G Larry

P-220 is an excellent on / off duty CHL rig.... 45 or 38 super.

I carried same when I was a deputy.

As to this subject I have a rule. No checkered or rubber grips. The clothing tends to creep an cling on such. CHL grips should be smooth.

Also iwb style holsters tend to not print at all if worn properly.

Stay Safe ....


21 posted on 02/04/2012 7:54:05 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: marktwain

It soon won’t make any difference how you act, based upon the fantasies of the fascist corporatists such as Chertoff lobbying their cronies in Congress, all while profiting from the loss of our rights and privacy.

They will sell their body scanners (paid for by our taxes) to every ‘Authority” and police dept. They will have body scanners on every corner and public place. Not to protect us, but to keep us in line.

Privacy will become a lost concept and the concept of our lives and friends will be owned and copyrighted by Facebook and our genes patented by the biotechs. How do they get to patent something God created?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/17/nypd-testing-gun-scanning-technology/


22 posted on 02/04/2012 7:54:09 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: marktwain
I've noticed that some folks wearing a short jacket, sweater or vest over a handgun (especially in a OWB holster), develop a habit of frequently tugging the cover garment down on the carry side -- especially if they feel it might be "riding up"...

In my experience, getting the piece in a comfortable, stable position -- and getting very comfortable with it being there -- are primo requirements of concealment. (So, basically, I agree with you...)

23 posted on 02/04/2012 7:54:44 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: marktwain

Some other cues:

1) An undercover officer sitting in an airport. Seriously, a fishing hat, sunglasses, pastel shirt, Dockers and Hush Puppies loafers, having talked to another officer, he sits down and crosses his legs, showing his ankle holster.

2) An emergency room where a dummy has either shot himself in the genitals and thigh, or buttocks, by shoving his gun into his belt without a holster.


24 posted on 02/04/2012 7:57:35 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Jeff Chandler

Excellent choice except I prefer shrouded hammer, j frame, 38s +p


25 posted on 02/04/2012 7:59:47 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: mnehring

That’s a special holster that requires a federal license (an AOW, which you need to learn what it means before possessing one), and is unlike 99% of pocket holsters that are used by most people for their pocket guns, which safely cover the trigger.


26 posted on 02/04/2012 8:00:04 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Thanks for the link!


27 posted on 02/04/2012 8:01:47 AM PST by fuzzthatwuz
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To: marktwain

Interestingly, most of the cues in the article involve a left-right imbalance.

The solution is to carry two guns symmetrically.


28 posted on 02/04/2012 8:05:20 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: marktwain; All

Thanks for posting. Thanks to every poster/educator with first-hand experience. BTTT!


29 posted on 02/04/2012 8:06:04 AM PST by PGalt
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To: marktwain

I carried a pocket holstered 32 daily for months at home and away and my wife never realized it. This included discreetly installing in the morning and putting it in a drawer at bedtime.


30 posted on 02/04/2012 8:08:06 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I have a couple of the leather square pocket holsters. One for my Beretta Tomcat and the other for the PPK....they fit well and withdraw well. They are not for tight jeans, however.


31 posted on 02/04/2012 8:08:50 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Nervous Tick
OK — so where’s his real wallet?

In my pocket, he was so busy looking for my gun, I got his wallet. hehehe

32 posted on 02/04/2012 8:10:45 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: marktwain

I worked construction in nasty parts of Southern California and had a 25 automatic in my carpenter bags


33 posted on 02/04/2012 8:11:41 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: apoliticalone

I like the shrouded hammer, too, but I got a swinging deal on the Taurus so Mrs. Chandler bought it for my birthday. The Blackhawk pocket holster covers the hammer and the gun slides out of my pocket quite smoothly. My daughter likes to fire single action so the hammer is nice to have for that reason. I prefer double action to imitate an actual self defense situation. +P ammo is the way to go most definitely.


34 posted on 02/04/2012 8:11:41 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: paul51
"I’d never use a holster that doesn’t guard the trigger. Very bad idea."

Excellent point - especially if your weapon's only safety is ON the trigger.

35 posted on 02/04/2012 8:14:48 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: marktwain

I carry in a “fanny pack” type quick access holster year round. Seems to work well for non-carriers, but those who carry pick it out right away.

It’s still concealed.

My friends in the know say it looks “gay.”


36 posted on 02/04/2012 8:15:24 AM PST by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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To: marktwain

Main problem I have is the “running in the rain” bit. The rest I’m very careful not to do. Guess I should take off running at night and just see if I lose it since I don’t know if my IWB holds it tight enough.


37 posted on 02/04/2012 8:17:15 AM PST by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: marktwain

Good info. I carry using a clip-on holster in the small of my back. Since I have a sway back, it can’t be seen even if I am just wearing a sweatshirt or light jacket. I also often have my husband or mother check for imprinting or bulges.

I refuse to carry my weapon in my purse if I can at all avoid it.


38 posted on 02/04/2012 8:17:58 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, Now Christian - "I wasn't brainwashed, just brain pre-soaked.")
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To: DCBryan1
I had a MIOBC buddy that went on to be a NYPD intel weenie. He told me that the easiest way to spot someone carrying a gun is by their behavior. If they look confident and alert (or paranoid), they probably have a firearm.

I carry a Glock 19 in a inside the pants holster in the small of my back. I do not keep a round chambered, for safety reasons.

I am aware that I am more confident when I am out walking, because of CCW. Therefore, I try not to issue a challenge to would be thugs by my behavior, by appearing overconfident. For this reason, I think I would be hard to spot.

Of course, I have a CCW permit.

Situational awareness cannot be overemphasized. I have headed off trouble several times by not letting questional persons get behind me, avoiding groups of thugs, etc.

39 posted on 02/04/2012 8:20:12 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: sinanju
I agree, but I occasionally encounter people who are, to be a bit vague, "suspect", and the first thing that pops into my mind is whether they might be carrying a weapon.

I started being a lot more observant after I was walking to my car in a shopping center lot one day, and was accosted by a clearly deranged man. All I could think of was getting my door unlocked as quickly as possible. I wasn't fast enough to avoid having a large drink of some sort thrown in my face, and all I could think was, "Thank you God, that was the only weapon at his disposal".

40 posted on 02/04/2012 8:21:45 AM PST by Calliecat
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To: The_Media_never_lie
I try not to issue a challenge to would be thugs by my behavior, by appearing overconfident.

Be careful not to overcompensate. Muggers and thieves prefer to attack victims who do not appear confident or alert.

41 posted on 02/04/2012 8:24:40 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: G Larry

HK P2000 (.40) or HK 45C both in Milt Sparks VM II’s (worth the wait) at 5 o’clock. Loose cargo shorts and wild print shirts untucked in summer. No problems!


42 posted on 02/04/2012 8:25:49 AM PST by BOATTRASH1 (NRA Endowment Member)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Being a woman, I have to agree. I have adopted a visage(when I’m in potentially vulnerable situations) that I’m not to be f***** with and, yes, I can back it up if necessary.


43 posted on 02/04/2012 8:30:15 AM PST by Calliecat
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To: marktwain

Massad Ayoob, gun writer and policeman told how once he was carrying concealed in a NYC subway.

Suddenly he was slammed up against the subway wall when a transit policewoman spotted the signs of a concealed gun on him.


44 posted on 02/04/2012 8:30:32 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Vinnie

“Shoulder holster under jacket? Anyone w/ experience?”

Love it. It is my primary carry configuration. No belt issues, sitting issues, being spotted when squatting issues, comfort is excellent.

For summer, I carry at the beltline under an untucked shirt with no problems, but for cooler months I prefer the shoulder holster.

I typically carry a Kimber Ultra Carry II in a Galco Miami Classic in basic black.


45 posted on 02/04/2012 8:33:06 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: marktwain

J frame with Kramer pocket holster here. Have never tried running with it. Will do that.

Good post.


46 posted on 02/04/2012 8:34:49 AM PST by Holen1 ("Those possessed by nothing possess everything.")
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To: marktwain

Most street thugs carry in the front of their pants, sans holster. You can tell they are carrying many times because they are constantly touching it to keep it stable.

Be very aware of a street hood whose pants fit right.

And as always, once they start doing that head swivel thing, there is going to be trouble. You see them approaching do that, get your roscoe ready.


47 posted on 02/04/2012 8:35:32 AM PST by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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To: Calliecat
I have adopted a visage...that I’m not to be f***** with

LIke this?

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48 posted on 02/04/2012 8:38:05 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: mnehring

I don’t know what’s the point in trying so desparately to “hide” your gun? The CCL says “concealed” not invisible and I personally think it is an added benefit to only conceal it to the degree to meet the requirements of the law.

Don’t necessarily relish the thought of putting a 45 through some idiot, rather perfer he “know” I can and be deferred. Having been in a situation or two, I can attest that when some billybadass realizes it could cost him his life, they suddenly discover they have the wrong guy. If that doesn’t deter, that’s why the 45!


49 posted on 02/04/2012 8:39:34 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: marktwain

I live in Colorado that has had CWP for a long time. We became a shall issue state not long ago but counties were issuing long before that. So far, on average, there is never a notice of concealed weapons. People seems to be concealing just fine.


50 posted on 02/04/2012 8:41:06 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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