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Ron Paul Tells CNN’s Piers Morgan Only “Honest Rape” Warrants An Abortion. (Honest Rape?)
Hinterland Gazette ^

Posted on 02/05/2012 6:59:20 PM PST by mnehring

Edited on 02/05/2012 7:06:55 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

During an appearance on CNN’s Piers Morgan, GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul was asked whether as a man with daughters and granddaughters, Rep. Paul (R-TX) thinks that abortion is warranted if a woman has been impregnated by a rapist.

“If it’s an honest rape,” Paul replied, “that individual should go immediately to the emergency room, I would give them a shot of estrogen.” He claimed, however, that if a woman is “seven months pregnant” and says that she was raped, “It’s a little bit of a different story.” Source


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; prolife; rape; rino; ronpaul
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

“forcible” rape, maybe? (full circle)


81 posted on 02/05/2012 8:27:20 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: CitizenUSA
It should be possible to get an absolute prohibition on abortion ~ its existence in this country rests solely at the hands of the Supreme Court.

Envision Ruthy's pancreatic cancer sweeping back in this week and she's gone by next week. The funny little Latina whose been mainlining all sorts of insulin for 40 years could simply collapse in a heap of broken bones. Then, there's the gal from Harvard ~ she's carrying entirely too much weight. A heart attack is in the realm of possibility.

That's 3. Presuming that happens too late for an outgoing Obama regime to do anything about it, the new guy coming in as President can appoint the people we need giving us a 7 to 2 court.

So, don't rule out an absolute prohibition with no exceptions.

82 posted on 02/05/2012 8:28:05 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: svcw

svcw: “So because there maybe a rape the baby should be dismembered or burned to death and that is ok?”

An injection immediately after the rape doesn’t dismember or burn a baby. That’s not to say I have no moral qualms against treatments like the morning after pill. I do, but let’s not sensationalize it.

I think this is a very fair description:

http://www.morningafterpill.org/how-does-it-work.html

Note that the pill can delay ovulation, prevent an egg from being released, and irritate the lining of the uterus so a fertilized egg won’t implant. Only the latter actually destroys a fertilized egg.


83 posted on 02/05/2012 8:30:07 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Anyone can do it. Good is more work but worth it!)
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To: no dems
An “Honest” Rape is when a woman is violated against her will.

That's rape. Period.

Not when some girl gives it up for her boyfriend and then screams rapes, or some “wife” comes home from a business trip, after banging her boss in the hotel, and tells her husband he raped her.

Those scenarios are NOT rape in any way shape or form. Why even dignify them with the term "rape", even if it's "dishonest rape"? Why not call them what they are, filing a false report or even perjury?

84 posted on 02/05/2012 8:31:08 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: svcw

Why do you keep referring to him as “alterPaul”?


85 posted on 02/05/2012 8:33:51 PM PST by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: svcw

And your the reason I despise the frothing at the mouth anti abortion nuts as much as I hate the Nazis at Planned parenthood ...forcing a rape victim to carry a child to term is something the koran animals would do


86 posted on 02/05/2012 8:35:37 PM PST by Charlespg
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To: mamelukesabre
I think its pretty obvious what he meant. I think its pretty obvious he’s right.

Respectfully, my FRiend, I do not agree.

I think that it's apparent that it meant something to him, and I do believe the gentleman to be, at times, insufficiently lucid.

I do not think that Dr. Paul is a bad or dishonest person.

That said, he lacks a certain continuous mental presence on the home planet.

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87 posted on 02/05/2012 8:36:22 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Theophilus

With Neeson reportedly on the verge of converting to Islam, maybe the conversation would go more like this:

Mary MacGregor: Robert, there is more. I am carrying a child and I do not know who is the father.”
Robert Roy MacGregor: Ach, Mary, how could you bring such shame on our family?
Mary MacGregor: I could not kill it, husband.
Robert Roy MacGregor: It’s not the child that needs killing, it’s you. The seed of your shame will perish in the womb as God wills.

However bad things might seem here, they could always be worse...


88 posted on 02/05/2012 8:38:22 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Huntress

I really believe the man lives in an alternate universe.
It revolves a science fiction story line where there are alternate universes and the main charters refer to the people in the alternate universe as (whatever their names are) the other person as alter(whatever).
So Sam in this universe becomes alterSam in the alternate universe.
That’s all, I did not used to but the more he speaks the more it seems to fit.


89 posted on 02/05/2012 8:40:19 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: Charlespg
forcing a rape victim to carry a child to term is something the koran animals would do...

No they wouldn't. See my post No. 88 above.

90 posted on 02/05/2012 8:40:36 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: strider44
If my wife were raped there’s no way she’d keep that baby.

Has she actually told you that is how she feels?

If not, I think you'd be wise to make sure...

91 posted on 02/05/2012 8:41:11 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Charlespg

The baby is innocent.


92 posted on 02/05/2012 8:41:42 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: John Valentine
Oh your right about that
93 posted on 02/05/2012 8:43:11 PM PST by Charlespg
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To: John Valentine

Exactly.


94 posted on 02/05/2012 8:43:46 PM PST by no dems (I'm more concerned with America's future than I am Newt's past.)
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To: Grunthor

It is an assumption based on ignorance that women who are victims of rape automatically want to abort - should they conceive.

It’s that old two wrongs don’t make a right sort of thing...


95 posted on 02/05/2012 8:45:54 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: mnehring

Wow...well, at least you have started a controversy here...

Yes, many of RAPE charges are false! It seems that the continue effects of feminism continue to be false!

Yes, the are many who claim false charges because they are drunk. Is that really fair? Most of the men were drunk also, should they be charged also? Mercy, when are we all going to be responsible for our own actions - drunk or not!

Ah, I give up, with today’s feminists and the blame men theology, we do not have a chance!

So, of course you would take the statements of the women and disregard the man’s statements, that seems to be the way things are going these days....

How about we give both the benefit of the doubt?


96 posted on 02/05/2012 8:46:19 PM PST by Deagle
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To: muawiyah

The evidence needed to permit an abortion under a rape exception is different from that needed to convict a rapist (whether capital punishment, castration, or imprisonment is the statutory punishment): for the first it is necessary to establish beyond a shadow of a doubt that the woman was raped, for the latter, it is also required that the identity of the rapist be established beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I would think that a properly constructed rape exception would require an evidentiary hearing to establish that a rape had taken place. Alas, we are very far from needing to consider the exact details at this point, even though a pro-life policy with such exceptions should garner majority support among the populace (unless the no-exceptions folk let the perfect be the enemy of the good and perversely side with the pro-abortion folk because they can’t get everything they want).


97 posted on 02/05/2012 8:47:26 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: John Valentine
they could always be worse...

That would be funny if it were not so sad, disgusting and true.

98 posted on 02/05/2012 8:48:09 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Charlespg

I despise mewling cowards who abandon their reason when it gets difficult for their tender sensibilities to accept.


99 posted on 02/05/2012 8:48:09 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: mamelukesabre

“I think its pretty obvious he’s right.”

WRONG.

All abortion is murder. Abortionists are murderers, period. I don’t care who did a rape. One thing I know is that the child had NOTHING to do with it. Innocent life is INNOCENT, get it? A doctor nor a mother has the right to kill an innocent child of any age. Six years, six months, six days, six hours, or six seconds.


100 posted on 02/05/2012 8:49:26 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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