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Bill Gates backs climate scientists lobbying for large-scale geoengineering
The Guardian (UK) ^ | February 5, 2012 | John Vidal

Posted on 02/06/2012 3:56:54 PM PST by opentalk

A small group of leading climate scientists, financially supported by billionaires including Bill Gates, are lobbying governments and international bodies to back experiments into manipulating the climate on a global scale to avoid catastrophic climate change.

The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth, argue that a "plan B" for climate change will be needed if the UN and politicians cannot agree to making the necessary cuts in greenhouse gases, and say the US government and others should pay for a major programme of international research.

Solar geoengineering techniques are highly controversial: while some climate scientists believe they may prove a quick and relatively cheap way to slow global warming, others fear that when conducted in the upper atmosphere, they could irrevocably alter rainfall patterns and interfere with the earth's climate.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billgates; climatechange; eugenics; geoenginering; un

1 posted on 02/06/2012 3:57:01 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

These idiots want to play God, they can’t control themselves and thier lives but they are certain they can control the climate. They will kill us all for sure.


2 posted on 02/06/2012 4:02:30 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: opentalk

WTF?

First they admit there has been no warming for the past 15 years.

They have been exposed by their own emails as being frauds.

Now they are pushing the same old UN nonsense crap.

And Bill Gates wants to finance this stuff on a shingle?

Where do they find these idiots?


3 posted on 02/06/2012 4:03:50 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: opentalk

Bill Gates is quite clearly not as smart as I thought he was.


4 posted on 02/06/2012 4:05:23 PM PST by Blennos
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To: opentalk
Names to keep an eye on:

"Professors David Keith, of Harvard University, and Ken Caldeira of Stanford, are the world's two leading advocates of major research into geoengineering the upper atmosphere to provide earth with a reflective shield.

They have so far received over $4.6m from Gates to run the Fund for Innovative Climate and Energy Research (Ficer). Nearly half Ficer's money, which comes directly from Gates's personal funds, has so far been used for their own research, but the rest is disbursed by them to fund the work of other advocates of large-scale interventions.

According to statements of financial interests, Keith receives an undisclosed sum from Bill Gates each year, and is the president and majority owner of the geoengineering company Carbon Engineering, in which both Gates and Edwards have major stakes – believed to be together worth over $10m.

Another Edwards company, Canadian Natural Resources, has plans to spend $25bn to turn the bitumen-bearing sand found in northern Alberta into barrels of crude oil. Caldeira says he receives $375,000 a year from Gates, holds a carbon capture patent and works for Intellectual Ventures, a private geoegineering research company part-owned by Gates and run by Nathan Myhrvold, former head of technology at Microsoft."

5 posted on 02/06/2012 4:06:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: opentalk

Can we NOW stop listening to Bill Gates’ stupid ideas?


6 posted on 02/06/2012 4:07:09 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: opentalk

“Geoengineering” is code for “all land belongs to the big-government/big-corporate criminal complex.”


7 posted on 02/06/2012 4:09:13 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: Paladin2
"The fund also gave $600,000 to Phil Rasch, chief climate scientist for the Pacific Northwest national laboratory, one of 10 research institutions funded by the US energy department."

"Analysis of the eight major national and international inquiries into geoengineering over the past three years shows that Keith and Caldeira, Rasch and Prof Granger Morgan the head of department of engineering and public policy at Carnegie Mellon University where Keith works, have sat on seven panels, including one set up by the UN. Three other strong advocates of solar radiation geoengineering, including Rasch, have sat on national inquiries part-funded by Ficer."

8 posted on 02/06/2012 4:09:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Blennos

Microsoft mainly earns its living by locking down 80% market shares with a combination of third rate products and fascist marketing.


9 posted on 02/06/2012 4:10:32 PM PST by varmintman
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Sulphur Dioxide?

Idiots.


10 posted on 02/06/2012 4:11:39 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: headstamp 2

“...said Caldeira. “Do I have too much influence? I feel like I have too little. I have been calling for making CO2 emissions illegal for many years, but no one is listening to me.”....”


11 posted on 02/06/2012 4:17:21 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: headstamp 2

I got mine politics.

Using regulation to shut door.

Bill Gates ALWAYS feared the next garage lab inovation that black swan inventor who would make his products obsolete.


12 posted on 02/06/2012 4:18:36 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ronnie raygun
Gates help fund genetically modified mosquitoes. I wonder if they considered the food chain and the impact on all of God's creatures that eat mosquitoes.

He is big on population control and vaccines.

14 posted on 02/06/2012 4:28:29 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

If only they believed in GOD... they would know.

LLS


15 posted on 02/06/2012 4:29:25 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: opentalk

helped, correction


16 posted on 02/06/2012 4:30:39 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Independent of anything these idiots do, we are on the way to another ice age. Their actions may hasten it. That's really not good news. It's hard to grow crops when it is too cold. If you're trying to cause a famine, this is the way to get there.
17 posted on 02/06/2012 4:33:46 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: opentalk
A small group of leading climate scientists, financially supported by billionaires including Bill Gates, are lobbying governments and international bodies to back experiments into manipulating the climate on a global scale to avoid catastrophic climate change.

If buying MS products is helping to finance reckless crap like this, that's all the reason I need to boycott MS.

18 posted on 02/06/2012 4:50:04 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
“Geoengineering” is code for “all land belongs to the big-government/big-corporate criminal complex.”

It's worse than that. Unlike the AGW models, which don't match reality, the matheatics and physics behind the geoengineering models is almost certainly accurate. By dumping controlled amounts of various chemicals where they have the highest multiplier, we can almost certainly nudge global temperatures in the direction desired. The problem is that if we geoengineer and the "warming" we are counteracting does not compensate for our actions, then we get an ice age. Unlike a repeat of the Medieval Climate Optimum, an ice age would be catastrophic.

19 posted on 02/06/2012 4:50:09 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Myrddin
ice age? Lake Erie did not get cold enough for even occasional ice cubes, Snow in Buffalo NY is missing , has been all but a few days this season. Today was sweatshirt weather. It should be deep freeze, but the daffodils are up 4” in the sun.

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20 posted on 02/06/2012 4:52:44 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: opentalk

These bozos are going to screw around and start another ice age and it will be impossible for any crops to grow. We’ll all be out scavaging around looking for berries and sticks to eat.


21 posted on 02/06/2012 4:55:25 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: opentalk
A small group of leading climate scientists, financially supported by billionaires including Bill Gates, are lobbying governments and international bodies to back experiments into manipulating the climate on a global scale to avoid catastrophic climate change.

The scientists, who advocate geoengineering methods such as spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth


What could possibly go wrong? How about massive crop die-offs due to significant atmospheric cooling? The basic issue when it comes to the earth's climate is that science doesn't know nearly enough about it yet - not enough to state that "catastrophic climate change" is here or on the way and definitely not enough to play with drastic methods to reduce the earth's temperature.
22 posted on 02/06/2012 5:01:37 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: opentalk; TenthAmendmentChampion; SolitaryMan; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; grey_whiskers; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

23 posted on 02/06/2012 5:04:00 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: opentalk
The minute that they saw Bill Gates was involved they realized there was a HUGE billfold from which they could suckle large amounts of money.

The old adage is TRUE. "A fool and his money are soon parted."

24 posted on 02/06/2012 5:09:00 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: reefdiver
Ice Age Now

For your amusement. The earth is bigger than Lake Erie. Have a look.

25 posted on 02/06/2012 5:24:24 PM PST by Myrddin
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26 posted on 02/06/2012 5:39:18 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Myrddin

Nothing funny about it, This is the snow area of the country, NOTHING HERE

No ice age,


27 posted on 02/06/2012 5:42:09 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: opentalk

They gave the Gates family a seat at the table with the global elites and he’s fully onboard with their eugenics agenda.


28 posted on 02/06/2012 5:44:09 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: reefdiver
Alaska has a massive surplus this year. San Diego is drier than usual. We've had less snow than usual in Idaho, so the farmers will be short of water this year. Another typical "La Nina" year.
29 posted on 02/06/2012 5:54:56 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: opentalk
spraying millions of tonnes of reflective particles of sulphur dioxide 30 miles above earth...

Blue sky Screen of Death.

30 posted on 02/06/2012 6:11:26 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: opentalk
There is no limit to the ignorance of liberals.

Especially, it would appear, rich liberals.

31 posted on 02/06/2012 6:18:47 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Paladin2
“...said Caldeira. “Do I have too much influence? I feel like I have too little. I have been calling for making CO2 emissions illegal for many years, but no one is listening to me.”....”

When you stop exhaling, we'll consider it.

32 posted on 02/06/2012 6:22:41 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: opentalk
A small group of leading climate scientists, financially supported by billionaires including Bill Gates, are lobbying governments and international bodies to back experiments into manipulating the climate on a global scale to avoid catastrophic climate change.

Avoid catastrophic change by, wait for it, changing the climate. But hey, what could go wrong, right?

Why do I get the mental picture of Algore as Dr Evil on skull island?

33 posted on 02/06/2012 9:15:20 PM PST by Mike Darancette (11/06/2012: Starts "Occupy the White House")
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To: opentalk

These guys cannot predict the past with their models, and yet they want to attempt large-scale geoengineering?

Insanity.


34 posted on 02/07/2012 12:13:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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