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Can Mitt Romney seal the deal with the Christian right?
The Guardian ^ | 7 February 2012 | Harry J Enton

Posted on 02/07/2012 3:13:05 PM PST by throwback

Mitt Romney won an impressive 29-percentage point victory in Saturday's Nevada caucuses. For some analysts, the triumph suggested that Romney is well on his way to winning the nomination. For me, the win was expected and confirms my forecast about where the race is heading. Romney maintains his status as the favorite for the Republican nomination, but potential trouble lurks down the road.

Romney maintains a great funding and organizational advantage in comparison to his peers. If he senses any candidate (such as Newt Gingrich) might be a serious challenge, Romney can drown out his opponent with television advertising and establishment endorsements (as Elliott Abrams describes in the National Review). Romney's ability to turn a five-point deficit in Florida into a seven-point lead in three days, with an eventual 14.5-point win, shows what his campaign is capable of doing.

The outstanding issue for Romney, though, is that he has yet failed to break through in a state that doesn't favor him demographically. Think about the states where Romney has done well: New Hampshire, Florida and Nevada. Some are liberal, some are conservative, but they share one demographic feature: they have a below-average percentage of Republican primary (or caucus) voters who identify as born-again Christians or evangelicals. The two states, Iowa and South Carolina, in which Romney has fared poorly have an above-average percentage of Republican primary (or caucus) voters who so identify.

Graphically, the relationship between born-again Christian and evangelical and the Romney vote becomes quite clear. Romney's percentage of the vote as opposed to the proportion won by the conservative alternatives (by now, just Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum) tallies quite closely with the percentage of voters in a state's exit polls who say they are born-again Christian or evangelical.

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Interesting analysis. He's still in doubt.
1 posted on 02/07/2012 3:13:17 PM PST by throwback
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To: throwback

No. He cannot.


2 posted on 02/07/2012 3:15:30 PM PST by Jemian
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To: throwback

” NO!”


3 posted on 02/07/2012 3:16:08 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: throwback
How many faces does he have left?

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4 posted on 02/07/2012 3:17:44 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: throwback

No, NEVER! Mit Romney is the leader of a CULT who believes all of Christianity is APOSTASY and that he is going to become “god” of his own planet. He also believes his wife is going to pump out “spirit children” like the queen alien in the movie ALIENS and that her spawn of “spirit children” are going to WORSHIP and SERVE “god” Mit for all of eternity! This is nothing short of heresy and Mit Romney is a heretic who has NOTHING in common with the Christian right or with Christianity.


5 posted on 02/07/2012 3:19:25 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

That sounds like a low budget science fiction movie made in the 1950’s, “Queen of Outer Space” starring Zza Zza Gabor.


6 posted on 02/07/2012 3:24:13 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: throwback

deal?????.......NO DEAL!


7 posted on 02/07/2012 3:26:52 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Jmouse007

Christianity is monotheistic. Mittens believes in many, many gods. No way he squares that with Christians. It’s as different as Christianity and Islam.


8 posted on 02/07/2012 3:28:18 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: throwback; greyfoxx39; Colofornian
Graphically, the relationship between born-again Christian and evangelical and the Romney vote becomes quite clear.

Simple reason for that: Romney is not a Christian, but a member of a cult that wants the world to believe they are Christian.

9 posted on 02/07/2012 3:29:15 PM PST by Gamecock (I am so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it. JGM)
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To: throwback

I am a Christian American.
I have reached the point where I will no longer vote for “the lesser of two evils”.
I will not vote for RINO’s and Mr Romney is certainly in that group.


10 posted on 02/07/2012 3:30:30 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign iup for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: throwback
Let's not forget some of the Mega Church Tammy Faye and Jim Bakker phonies who can be bought.
11 posted on 02/07/2012 3:31:32 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: throwback
Negative.

Barack Obama will be re-elected and it will be the mormon's fault.

We've been screaming from the rooftops about this here for four years !

Just wait until the primary is over and Obama and the MSM will have all of us trying to defend all of FLDS/LDS "Prophets" Joseph Smith and Brigham Young's CRAZY DOCTRINES about men living on the moon and sun, the "hollow earth theory", fruits and vegetables having souls....and oh yeah, Smith's false prophecy about the Christ's return in 1891.

By the time Obama is done with Romney he'll look (justifiably) as kooky as Harold Camping.

12 posted on 02/07/2012 3:31:53 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: throwback

NO!


13 posted on 02/07/2012 3:32:14 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: throwback

Not with this evangelical.


14 posted on 02/07/2012 3:33:23 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: throwback

Nary a chance.


15 posted on 02/07/2012 3:37:22 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Jmouse007

If the Gingich campaign or a Super Pac would use the Nuclear Option of exposing the Mormon Political Agenda, our country could be spared a lot of unnecessary pain.

Hannity brags a lot about how he vetted Obama. I have just challenged him to have as his guest Tricia Erickson a former Mormon Bishop’s daughter. Her book, “Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters?” Subtitle: Why an Indoctrinated Mormon Must Never be Elected President of the United States, was featured in “Christian News Today”. I first heard of her on a local radio station.

It is an abomination that so many well meaning Christians do not understand that Mormonism is not Christian, nor do they understand the Political Agenda of the Mormon church.

Time is running out for us to get a candidate nominated that can win. We can get the truth out there now about Romney, or wait for the DNC to do it.


16 posted on 02/07/2012 3:37:36 PM PST by conservativejoy
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After NV
Delegate tally approximately
Romney 51 Newt 45
when FL vote divided per RNC rules!

Pass the word!


CLICK TO DONATE TO NEWT

CONTACT FOR RNC:
website@nrcc.org

310 First Street
Washington DC 20003

Encourage them to do the RIGHT thing: end the FL fiasco NOW!
Play by RULE 15:B:2

17 posted on 02/07/2012 3:38:21 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Jemian

Check out Tricia Erickson’s book: CAN MITT ROMNEY SERVE TWO MASTERS?

Tricia’s father served as a Bishop the same time that Romney served as Bishop. She knows his background and exposes it Has been doing some book reviews on local radio programs.

Please pass the word. Maybe with freepers help she will get a national book review.


18 posted on 02/07/2012 3:42:52 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Tell someone who cares....The RNC. Their contact information is on the t-shirt posted above.


19 posted on 02/07/2012 3:45:08 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I will NEVER vote for Romney. EVER.


20 posted on 02/07/2012 3:46:48 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: hoosiermama

Either Obama or Romney will destroy what is left of this country. I will not vote if these are the choices.


21 posted on 02/07/2012 3:47:19 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: sodpoodle
Let's not forget some of the Mega Church Tammy Faye and Jim Bakker phonies who can be bought.

Ummmm..which of the two is running for President? Never mind. I wouldn't vote for them either.

22 posted on 02/07/2012 3:47:34 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Don't call us bigots! "Bigotry" is 98% of mormons in NV voting for Mitt Romney.)
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To: conservativejoy

You’re on target....Look into the book mentioned in the post under the t-shirt. Then contact the RNC and give them your opinion. Their information is on the t-shirt post.


23 posted on 02/07/2012 3:47:34 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: throwback
Only an overseas media source could even ask such a dumb question..........well, there is the NYSlimes and the Compost........
24 posted on 02/07/2012 3:49:45 PM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Tell the RNC that. Contact information on t-shirt.


25 posted on 02/07/2012 3:50:10 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
In the words of the Late talk show host from Michigan Mark Scott, it is the Evil of 2 Lesser's...

I cannot pull the lever for Romney, period.

26 posted on 02/07/2012 3:53:06 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: hoosiermama

I’ve ordered several copies of this book for distribution. I have a local bookstore here that buys/sells/trades. One copy will go there, another to my church, local library, my doctor’s office (she has already told me it will go in the waiting room), and I will pray about the last two copies.

I saw that another Freeper mentioned that Mike Gallagher had talked about the Mormon issue on his program, so I think I will follow their suggestion of contacting him.

We can All do something. What we are doing here is Great, we just need to pray and follow His lead.

God Bless All Freepers!


27 posted on 02/07/2012 3:53:16 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: greyfoxx39

Just preparing for some charlatan posing as a Christian evangelical to endorse Romney for a price.


28 posted on 02/07/2012 3:55:05 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: throwback

Let’s look at more numbers:

2008: about 44,000 Republicans attended caucuses & voted. Mitt got 52% of the vote......about 22,880 votes (by percentage).

2012: only about 33,000 Republicans attended the caucusses, with Mitt getting 50% of the vote with 16,486 votes.

Facts:
25% FEWER Republicans attended the 2012 caucusses in Nevada......

28% fewer persons voted for Romney in the 2012 caucusses.

I don’t know how much Mitt spent here in Nevada, but the last 2 days or so, we were bombarded with 2-3-4 ads back-to-back-to-back.. Newt didn’t have any ads here.

Trump took alot of the credit for Romney’s high finish here in MORMON country.

2 counties-White Pine & Lincoln-next to the Utah border voted more than 60% for Romney. I do not know how many actually went to the caucuses there & cast a vote.

More fact: Mineral County voted highest for NEWT——& LESS than 100 persons voted in that county.

Paul got Nye county in his camp.

Despite being in ‘Mormon Country” Mitt got lots fewer votes this time around than he did in 2008.

Downright pathetic.


29 posted on 02/07/2012 4:00:33 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: throwback

With the CRINOs maybe.


30 posted on 02/07/2012 4:01:18 PM PST by firebrand
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To: throwback
"Can Mitt Romney seal the deal with the Christian right?"

No . . . though he can seal our fate.

31 posted on 02/07/2012 4:02:43 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: conservativejoy
Time is running out for us to get a candidate nominated that can win. We can get the truth out there now about Romney, or wait for the DNC to do it.

Unfortunately, too many people see the exposure of actual mormon doctrine as "bigotry", and mormons have cried "persecution" for 180 years.

They don't see that the way that Obama has used "racism" for more than four years will be doubled in spades against mormon racism. No one CARES that blacks were "allowed" to have full membership in 1978...there is way too much documented history of the mormon leadership's racist belief.

32 posted on 02/07/2012 4:06:48 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Don't call us bigots! "Bigotry" is 98% of mormons in NV voting for Mitt Romney.)
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To: throwback

No, he can’t. And it isn’t just with Evangelicals.
The Mormon thing is a huge factor.
Mormons are not considered to be a mainstream Christian religion in large swathes of the country. There will be Protestants, and Catholics who have deep reservations about voting a Mormon into the White House because they’ll be afraid it will help promote what they believe to be a false religion. There have also been a number of polls that show that significant numbers of Americans just won’t vote for a Mormon as President.


33 posted on 02/07/2012 4:08:11 PM PST by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: conservativejoy

Good idea. Where did you order several copies?

On line? Is there a link?


34 posted on 02/07/2012 4:08:59 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: throwback

not possible

just look at the freak show here on FR when someone mentions mormonism and Christianity

that’s 10-25% of the base. he’d have to make that up with independents.

and that’s how the electoral math works. they know it... and that’s why he’s being queued up. a sure loss for the right

only Sarah can bring out the entire right... and she’d pull a lot of the independents. which is why they attacked her nonstop. she was a threat to progressives.

santorum can pull out the base, but he doesn’t have the buzz, so he’s a nonstarter.

that leaves newt... and many on the right won’t go for him (wife swapping usually doesn’t fly with social conservatives)

all boils down to another 4 for 0failure.

which means... US debt will continue to climb and the dollar will continue to diminish. gold and other commodities will continue to soar. the markets will continue to ‘go up’... as the unit of measure shrinks

i could go on, but it’s all very predictable


35 posted on 02/07/2012 4:09:34 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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“Can Mitt Romney seal the deal with the Christian right?”

Nope. He can’t seal it with any conservative, let alone a Christian conservative.


36 posted on 02/07/2012 4:09:51 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: throwback

The only thing that I can do is pray for his salvation... but my earthly vote and support... he will never see.

LLS


37 posted on 02/07/2012 4:10:48 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: conservativejoy

Do you have a college library or high school library that would appreciate a donation?

Or maybe a pastorial group?


38 posted on 02/07/2012 4:11:49 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: hoosiermama

Amazon.com

Paperback.


39 posted on 02/07/2012 4:12:01 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: taildragger; SECURE AMERICA; All
I cannot pull the lever for Romney, period.

I join Secure America & Taildragger: I WiLL NOT vote for Romney.

In fact, I'll continue to encourage many others to vote anti-Romney in the primaries...

Should Mitt win the nomination, I will vote third-party and continue to encourage others to do the same.

Furthermore, I will seriously re-evaluate my GOP membership, go independent, & encourage others to do the same.

The GOP continues to be like a Labanite.

Who was Laban?

In the book of Genesis, Laban promised his daughter Rachel to Jacob, but deceptively substituted his other daughter Leah into Honeymoon Central (unbeknownst to Jacob til the light of day).

The GOP Establishment acts like Laban -- forever promising us a "Rachel" candidate...and yet only delivering on those we don't "love"...

Jacob had to work another 7 years to get Rachel.

I say the GOP Establishment will forever turn out wannabe GOP candidates for us to sleep with (remember, Jacob also slept with Leah's and Rachel's servants -- serants, not real wives). They can always count on our anti-Democratic candidate stance to allow them to force-feed anybody they want.

The GOP establishment will give us unreal, non-viable candidates like Dole & Romney (the Zilpahs & Bilhahs of our political lives) -- & deceptively tell us that certain "Leahs" are the candidates we love.

Don't believe a word of it.

In fact, the rebellion needs to be poised that if they keep hand-feeding us RINOs & liberals, the GOP is Whig-bound! It'll evaporate in no time!

The Rebellion is on! And it'll be massive!

A new potential Exodus is brewing!

40 posted on 02/07/2012 4:13:05 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks for the suggestion. Now that you mentioned it, two local college campuses sound promising. I may have to order more books!


41 posted on 02/07/2012 4:15:48 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: sten; throwback
...that’s 10-25% of the base. he’d have to make that up with independents...all boils down to another 4 for 0failure. which means... US debt will continue to climb and the dollar will continue to diminish. gold and other commodities will continue to soar. the markets will continue to ‘go up’... as the unit of measure shrinks i could go on, but it’s all very predictable

Actually. It's potentially worse than that for the near future (until another party can rise up to replace the GOP)

If the GOP gives us Romney, I'm likely walking -- & am hoping MILLIONS of other GOP voters PERMANENTLY walk.

If the GOP establishment can't discern a pure RINO from even a Moderate, they have no business imposing Obama lites upon us and deserve to permanently forfeit their power structure.

At this point, the GOP is whig-bound. Extinction ahead.

And that will mean even MORE Dem wins until a new party -- like the Republican party in the 1850s -- can rise up to take on the key issues of the day!

42 posted on 02/07/2012 4:19:16 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: throwback

not this camper. I’ll be moving on...


43 posted on 02/07/2012 4:20:18 PM PST by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: conservativejoy

Your county RNC chairperson might find one interesting and be willing to pass it around.


44 posted on 02/07/2012 4:20:42 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Cincinna

“There will be Protestants, and Catholics who have deep reservations about voting a Mormon into the White House because they’ll be afraid it will help promote what they believe to be a false religion.”

But yet...Protestants and Catholics were willing to vote a possible Muslim into the White House. A lot of contributors to this web site consider that to be a false religion.


45 posted on 02/07/2012 4:21:06 PM PST by mouske
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To: Jemian

He doesnt need to. In fact, if he panders too much to the evangelicals, he has no chance of beating Obama because in doing so he will alienate people like me. I’m a white ethnic Catholic who has NEVER voted for a Democrat, but even I won’t vote for Santorum (or Newt). Santorum is a buffoon! And Newt? Are people really gullible enough to be taken in by his used car salesman’s schtick? He’s whip smart and a great speaker — but he’s a con man — like a TV preacher! The Christian Right is far out of step with the large majority of American voters. Anyone who thinks Santorem or Newt have a prayer of actually winning the presidency is in a delusional DREAMLAND!


46 posted on 02/07/2012 4:26:08 PM PST by ReplaceThemAll
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To: mouske
I know next to nothing about Mormons. BUT I have observed the “I work well with Teddy Kennedy” Orin Hatch of time gone by presidential campaign.... And the letch Harry Reid poking his ugly stick in my face every-time he has opportunity to do the ‘right’ things. Then along comes Mitt Romney, runs a second time to be our leader and is so confident in himself he must LIE and spend like a drunken sailor to ‘win’.... These examples tell me all I need to know about the ‘religion’ of Mormons.
47 posted on 02/07/2012 4:27:14 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Just as we cannot allow the “race card” to to be used as a false premise, we have to boldly make the argument that we are fighting a Political Agenda. Mormonism has, since its founding by Joseph Smith, sought to overthrow the government of the United States and set up a Theocracy. That was his intention when he ran for President in 1844.

Just One implication of a President Romney: Do we really want the Mormon Church appointing Supreme Court Justices?

With Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader, and Orin Hatch as the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, do you really think that won’t happen if Romney is elected?

No, we have to speak up and not let the false accusations of bigotry silence us. Too much is at stake.


48 posted on 02/07/2012 4:27:18 PM PST by conservativejoy
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To: hoosiermama

Not seeing a link to the book you reference on the T-shirt post. Do you have such? Thanks.


49 posted on 02/07/2012 4:29:07 PM PST by TEXOKIE (... and HAPPY VALENTINES DAY to all FREEPERS EVERYWHERE!)
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To: ridesthemiles; throwback
Despite being in ‘Mormon Country” Mitt got lots fewer votes this time around than he did in 2008.

LOTS fewer?

No.

Fewer?

Yes.

Whatever the overall totals were...in both years ('08 & '12), Mormons constituted 25% of the vote in Nevada.

2008: Mitt got 94-95% of the Mormon vote.
2012: Mitt got 88% of the Mormon vote.

It's all in the exit polls. (If you want actual links, I'll give 'em to you).

Bottom line: You've got 8 out of every 9 GOP Mormons in Nevada voting for Romney!...and they turn out...so that what's about 7-8 % of the overall population becomes 25% of the actual GOP vote! [They were already about 15% of the GOP registered voters]

So think about that.

25% of the voting pie Saturday were Mormon...meaning that it's like a guy showing up for a football game with a 21-3 lead...and the first 1/4 of game-time has already been run off!

All he has to do is convince 1 out of 3 (or even less) non-Mormon voters to vote for him...which he does (with a few % pts over that, actually).

50 posted on 02/07/2012 4:29:44 PM PST by Colofornian
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