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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
I have just noticed yesterday that bushpilot1 has been zotted, and I am at a loss as to explain why. If I read him correctly, he is pointing out what was common knowledge in 1787. Many of the founders were racists.

Well Duh.

I was under the impression that everyone knew this. Apparently it was a revelation to some.

That is not to say that ALL the founders were racist. I posted information pointing out how James Otis was vehemently advocating the abolition of slavery and advocating equality for all people. Samuel Adams was well inspired by him. The efforts of many of the founders went into limiting and abolishing slavery as explicitly written into the Final Document. Even some of the Virginians were not so enamored of it, Thomas Jefferson being but one example.

Abraham Lincoln was horribly racist. I just read something from him yesterday of which I had not been previously aware. From Gerard Vanderleun

"Now I ask you in all soberness, if all these things, if indulged in, if ratified, if confirmed and endorsed, if taught to our children, and repeated to them, do not tend to rub out the sentiment of liberty in the country, and to transform this Government into a government of some other form.

"Those arguments that are made, that the inferior race are to be treated with as much allowance as they are capable of enjoying; that as much is to be done for them as their condition will allow. What are these arguments? They are the arguments that kings have made for enslaving the people in all ages of the world.

"You will find that all the arguments in favor of king-craft were of this class; they always bestrode the necks of the people, not that they wanted to do it, but because the people were better off for being ridden. That is their argument, and this argument of the Judge is the same old serpent that says you work and I eat, you toil and I will enjoy the fruits of it.

"Turn it whatever way you will---whether it come from the mouth of a King, an excuse for enslaving the people of his country, or from the mouth of men of one race as a reason for enslaving the men of another race, it is all the same old serpent." -- Abraham Lincoln. Speech at Chicago, Illinois | July 10, 1858

Nevertheless, His policies set about making all men equal under the law, as did those of Jefferson, Madison, Mason, etc.

It was the Democrats who have always been the racists, starting with Andrew Jackson (Indian Removal Act of 1830) to Slavery, To Chief Justice Taney in the Dred Scot decision, to Nathan Bedford Forest's founding of the KKK, to Margaret Sanger's Eugenics policies, thru Jim Crow, to lynching, to opposition to the civil rights act of 1964, and numerous and sundry subsequent offenses (by Democrats) to the idea that people should be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

That someone should be zotted for pointing out that (some of) the founders were racist indicates an excessive sensitivity to the issue in my opinion.

195 posted on 02/29/2012 11:05:05 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Fantasywriter
"I have just noticed yesterday that bushpilot1 has been zotted, and I am at a loss as to explain why. If I read him correctly, he is pointing out what was common knowledge in 1787. Many of the founders were racists.

Well Duh.

"That someone should be zotted for pointing out that (some of) the founders were racist indicates an excessive sensitivity to the issue in my opinion."

That was my thought as well. Apparently the moderator felt differently, or took the default safe position that it would be better to forgo giving the benefit of the doubt and instead zot a six-year member rather than take the risk that FR would appear to be somehow "tolerant" of "racism".

196 posted on 02/29/2012 2:49:25 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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