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The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows
The Guardian ^ | 8 February 2012 | Damian Carrington

Posted on 02/08/2012 1:16:31 PM PST by grundle

The world's greatest snow-capped peaks, which run in a chain from the Himalayas to Tian Shan on the border of China and Kyrgyzstan, have lost no ice over the last decade, new research shows.

The discovery has stunned scientists, who had believed that around 50bn tonnes of meltwater were being shed each year and not being replaced by new snowfall.

The study is the first to survey all the world's icecaps and glaciers and was made possible by the use of satellite data.

The melting of Himalayan glaciers caused controversy in 2009 when a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change mistakenly stated that they would disappear by 2035

Until now, estimates of meltwater loss for all the world's 200,000 glaciers were based on extrapolations of data from a few hundred monitored on the ground. Those glaciers at lower altitudes are much easier for scientists to get to and so were more frequently included, but they were also more prone to melting.

The new study used a pair of satellites... "They fly at 500km, so they see everything," said Wahr, including the hard-to-reach, high-altitude glaciers.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: agw; fauxscience; globalwarming; grace; hoax; ipcc

1 posted on 02/08/2012 1:16:41 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

*Obviously*, this was caused by global warming.


2 posted on 02/08/2012 1:18:48 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: grundle
Why don't these stupid scientists just delete the data, claim different results and start a Global Warming Climate Change Department and ask demand more funding?

Isn't that what "scientists" do nowadays?
3 posted on 02/08/2012 1:22:43 PM PST by Darteaus94025
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4 posted on 02/08/2012 1:24:12 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: steelyourfaith

ping


5 posted on 02/08/2012 1:27:23 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: grundle

Settled science! /s/


6 posted on 02/08/2012 1:28:41 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: MeganC

And we all know that forces in the GOP have bought off the following individual, because as we all know, nothing in my documentaries is false,

7 posted on 02/08/2012 1:29:07 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: grundle

There is a guy in Chile using glacial ice to mix margaritas.


8 posted on 02/08/2012 1:31:05 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: grundle; a fool in paradise

That just means that the improved U.S. emission standards do work as intended!


9 posted on 02/08/2012 1:31:50 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Darteaus94025

Every week Mann-made global warming takes another one in the shorts. Soon it will be held in the same esteem as Lysenko’s theories.


10 posted on 02/08/2012 1:33:44 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: grundle
The Truth - Driving Liberals Crazy for Years!
11 posted on 02/08/2012 1:34:04 PM PST by Arcy
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To: grundle

“The discovery has stunned scientists, ...”

Scientists stunned in the beeber alert!


12 posted on 02/08/2012 1:35:44 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: grundle

“The discovery has stunned scientists, ...”

Scientists stuned in the beeber alert!


13 posted on 02/08/2012 1:35:52 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: grundle

I thought it was “2035 or bust”.

Looks like the IPCC done went and blew another one.


14 posted on 02/08/2012 1:38:50 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: grundle
We need more ice!


15 posted on 02/08/2012 1:41:59 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: grundle

Somewhere, Al Gore’s head is exploding.


16 posted on 02/08/2012 1:42:13 PM PST by iceskater (I am a Carnivore Conservative - No peas for me. (h/t N.Theknow))
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To: grundle

How did this manage to get published in The Guardian?


17 posted on 02/08/2012 1:47:56 PM PST by Truth29
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To: grundle

Ahhh, geez . . . back to the lying board . . . er . . . drawing board.


18 posted on 02/08/2012 1:48:54 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Revolting cat!

so whats that in the trunk?


19 posted on 02/08/2012 1:52:35 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Revolting cat!

20 posted on 02/08/2012 1:54:00 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers ("No. But I will.")
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To: beebuster2000

“so whats that in the trunk?”

Probably hydraulics, compressors, dump valves etc. For making the car go BOUNCY BOUNCY BOUNCY. Probably spent more on the hydraulics than the car is worth... Oh an on the stereo too...


21 posted on 02/08/2012 2:06:40 PM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: grundle

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/23/breaking-news-scientist-admits-ipcc-used-fake-data-to-pressure-policy-makers/

“From the Daily Mail

The scientist behind the bogus claim in a Nobel Prize-winning UN report that Himalayan glaciers will have melted by 2035 last night admitted it was included purely to put political pressure on world leaders.”


Glacier scientist: I knew data hadn’t been verified

By David Rose
Created 12:54 AM on 24th January 2010

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245636/Glacier-scientists-says-knew-data-verified.html


22 posted on 02/08/2012 2:41:29 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: grundle

If the global warming crowd has done anything, perhaps it’s been to establish the type of accurate measurement tools that can now establish that they were wrong. Wouldn’t that be too delicious for words?


23 posted on 02/08/2012 2:44:40 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Fractal Trader; TenthAmendmentChampion; SolitaryMan; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; grey_whiskers; ...
Thanx for the ping Fractal Trader !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

24 posted on 02/08/2012 3:32:23 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: Fractal Trader; TenthAmendmentChampion; SolitaryMan; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; grey_whiskers; ...
Thanx for the ping Fractal Trader !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

25 posted on 02/08/2012 3:33:32 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: grundle

So SUV’s, incandescent bulbs, the industrial revolution, coal power plants, trucks, cars, swimming pools, air conditioners are still NOT melting mountains and killing polar bears.


26 posted on 02/08/2012 4:27:08 PM PST by matt04
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27 posted on 02/08/2012 5:45:25 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: grundle
The discovery has stunned scientists, who had believed that around 50bn tonnes of meltwater were being shed each year and not being replaced by new snowfall.

Tibetans don't call it The Land of Snows for giggles. "Scientists" are easily stunned.

28 posted on 02/08/2012 6:44:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

“Our results and those of everyone else show we are losing a huge amount of water into the oceans every year,” said Prof John Wahr of the University of Colorado. “People should be just as worried about the melting of the world’s ice as they were before.”

OMG rivers FLOW INTO THE OCEAN!!!!!

GASP!!!!

Quick Dam them all up, OMG now we are hurting Fish!!!

Crying Wolf is the occupation of the AGW crowd.


29 posted on 02/09/2012 10:15:59 AM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG
Meanwhile the Obama administration has shuffled several billion$ to three satellite missions to study global warming and look for evidence of a change of salinity in the world's oceans by beaming microwaves at them. Their conclusions? NO CHANGE.

The truth doesn't matter even after they spend billions to discover it for themselves.

30 posted on 02/09/2012 10:30:02 AM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: GraceG
OMG rivers FLOW INTO THE OCEAN!!!!!

LOL

I recall back about the fifth grade, in the neolithium period known as "The 60s," we had cute little graphics that showed the water cycle. Rain and snow came down on the land, the water flowed down rivers into the ocean and water evaporated from the ocean back up into clouds in the sky.

I guess the super-brains have figured out that those primitive cave drawings were just superstitious nonsense.

31 posted on 02/09/2012 2:21:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: grundle
Recent contributions of glaciers and ice caps to sea level rise

I'm surprised Nature agreed to publish this.

32 posted on 02/09/2012 2:25:39 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Here we show that GICs, excluding the Greenland and Antarctic peripheral GICs, lost mass at a rate of 148 ± 30 Gt yr−1 from January 2003 to December 2010, contributing 0.41 ± 0.08 mm yr−1 to sea level rise.

.08 mm eh? About the thickness of a good trash bag? And they claim they can measure sea level to that degree? LOL

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

Sea levels began to rise 18k years ago at the end of the last glacial period. They have risen about 135 meters since then which is an average of 7.5 millimeters per year. That is an average of 750 mm per century (29.5 inches) which is far more than the average over the last century.

From 1880 to 2000 sea level rose about 20 cm or just under 8 inches. Far far less than the nearly 30 inches per century average over the last 18,000 years.

33 posted on 02/09/2012 3:15:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: grundle

The enviornmentalists suffer from a condition
called “Chicken Littlism”.


34 posted on 02/09/2012 11:06:19 PM PST by U-238
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To: grundle
Damn! I thought when enough of it melted I could climb MT. Everest!
35 posted on 02/09/2012 11:10:53 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: grundle
Until now, estimates of meltwater loss for all the world's 200,000 glaciers were based on extrapolations of data from a few hundred monitored on the ground.

Oops.

36 posted on 02/10/2012 4:41:23 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: grundle
The melting of Himalayan glaciers caused controversy in 2009 when a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change mistakenly stated that they would disappear by 2035

Waddya mean 'mistaken'??

We gots 23 more years to go.

Ain't it a wee bit early to be CLAIMING this now?

37 posted on 02/10/2012 1:24:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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