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Raise the Crime Rate
http://nplusonemag.com ^ | 26 January 2012 | Christopher Glazek

Posted on 02/09/2012 4:24:43 PM PST by JerseyHighlander

From 1980 to 2007, the number of prisoners held in the United States quadrupled to 2.3 million, with an additional 5 million on probation or parole. What Ayn Rand once called the “freest, noblest country in the history of the world” is now the most incarcerated, and the second-most incarcerated country in history, just barely edged out by Stalin’s Soviet Union. We’re used to hearing about the widening chasm between the haves and have-nots; we’re less accustomed to contemplating a more fundamental gap: the abyss that separates the fortunate majority, who control their own bodies, from the luckless minority, whose bodies are controlled, and defiled, by the state.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crime; justice; prison; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: stormhill
Hate to inject a dose of reality into your little world, but the relative peace we live in is due to the incarceration of the psychopaths who commit the crimes.

Yeah. Everyone in jail is a "psychopath". Everyone is guilty and violent.

The psychopaths are not what's being discussed and you know it.

21 posted on 02/09/2012 5:16:34 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep and insects need leaders.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

No, what’s being discussed is the social contract, the root causes, collective guilt and all the crock the liberals throw at us to divert responsibility from the criminal.


22 posted on 02/09/2012 5:20:08 PM PST by stormhill
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To: stormhill

Liberals like Ed Meese and the Heritage Foundation?

http://www.heritage.org/issues/legal/rule-of-law/overcriminalization


23 posted on 02/09/2012 5:24:38 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep and insects need leaders.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
I stand with Heritage on the notion that the legislatures should avoid creating absurd and oppressive laws. Nevertheless, I will not be disuaded from the position that anyone who knocks over little old ladies should be taken away.

Why does no one propose something useful like default capital punishment for murder? You'd have to turn prisons into condos for lack of demand.

24 posted on 02/09/2012 5:31:51 PM PST by stormhill
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To: Boiling point
People aren't put in prison for blowing their nose on a public bus in Georgia even if it is against the law in some small berg - and you know that...

The folks in prison deserve to be there - with VERY RARE exception. Please drop the liberal 'feel the pain' of monsters stuff. That crap went out of style in the 70's.

By your silly logic, if murder was made legal they'd be less crime. Same for rape. Do you actually believe that? The laws are made by citizens to maintain a MINIMUM standard of decency. That criminals fall below that low standard is stunning... and creepy beyond words.

25 posted on 02/09/2012 7:49:25 PM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
We have more people in prison than China. You comfortable with that? Yet, everyone wants to lock up more.

China locks up a lot of political prisoners. If China had the criminals we have they'd just shoot them. I doubt the Chinese would feed some lowlife serial killer for 20 years - or even 5. Check it out - they kill 'em.

26 posted on 02/09/2012 7:55:24 PM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: GOPJ

I agree with your points, but this is where the US is headed if there isn’t concerted effort to block this, which is still not as bad as the political prisoners in Western China being used as organ harvesting black market cash flow for corrupt Police Forces..., but it’s worse than the 19th century British debtors’ prisons.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/14/private-prisons-buying-state-prisons_n_1272143.html

“As state governments wrestle with massive budget shortfalls, a Wall Street giant is offering a solution: cash in exchange for state property. Prisons, to be exact.

Corrections Corporation of America, the nation’s largest operator of for-profit prisons, has sent letters recently to 48 states offering to buy up their prisons as a remedy for “challenging corrections budgets.” In exchange, the company is asking for a 20-year management contract, plus an assurance that the prison would remain at least 90 percent full, according to a copy of the letter obtained by The Huffington Post.”


27 posted on 02/17/2012 8:46:28 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
The problem with private prisons is there's no incentive to ‘get the folks better’. They make money when the prisons are full. The fuller the better.

I'd like to see some kind of ‘non-recidivism bonus. If a guy doesn't come back for 5 years, they get extra money. Pay them to help people get off the wheel and maybe they'll make it a priority.

28 posted on 02/18/2012 8:50:11 PM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: GOPJ
The problem with private prisons is there's no incentive to ‘get the folks better’. They make money when the prisons are full. The fuller the better.

I don't care if they "get better" or not. "Corrections" is just a joke anyway. I want violent bastards locked up, kept away from the public, and weakened.

29 posted on 02/18/2012 9:37:24 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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