Skip to comments.Santorum says ‘other types of emotions’ could preclude women in combat.
Posted on 02/09/2012 8:03:54 PM PST by true believer forever
I think that could be a very compromising situation, where people naturally may do things that may not be in the interest of the mission because of other types of emotions that are involved. It already happens, of course, with the camaraderie of men in combat, but I think it would be even more unique if women were in combat, Santorum added. And I think thats not in the best interests of men, women or the mission.
Such remarks may please some social conservatives who were never that keen on women serving in the military, but this may not sit well with women who work, sometimes in male-dominated jobs.
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He appears to be referring to men’s emotions.
Though according to feminism, men don’t have any.
Jennifer Rubin is a lib hack.
Why? Rick only spoke the truth. Men can’t help having different feelings for women than they do for men. Guys don’t deal well with seeing women killed or maimed, and anyone who says different is a liar or a fool. Bob
I think Santorum is a SOB, but his opinion on this doesn’t offend me. He might even be right. Kudos to him for speaking his mind is all I have to say.
Now, how this plays out with the public... I don’t know.
No job for Pelosi!
Killed/maimed is tough. I’ve found for me that finding out one has been kidnapped is far, FAR worse. Can’t explain it, but there it is.
When Johnny Boehner read this, he wept...gently...
Santorum definitely comes off way too sanctimonious at times.
We all know he is ultra strong on social issues. So he has nothing to prove there... And only turns off others.
‘true believer forever’ with yet another disgusting liberal attack on a conservative
Absolutely. Men are only so strong. Look what happened to Lara Logan, another one who believed that the world was as she wished it to be. I admire Rick’s candor. Bob
This is pretty simple stuff, you and Rubin should both buy a clue or two.
Nice catch. This is not about a woman’s emotions. Its about the additional mental pressures a male soldier would be under trying to prevent a female combat soldier from getting killed, raped, etc etc. The title intentionally tries to make it sound like Santorum thinks women’s emotions are not up for combat.
Some militant feminists would still be offended, but they aren't going to vote for anyone with an R after their name anyway.
Professional smear merchant peddling a Romney bot propaganda !
How much are you paid to smear and trash here !
U post hate !
Santorum is right. Women should not be in combat. What are you objecting to in this?
Santorum is saying the male/female relationships could compromise missions.
He is absolutely correct.
I remember talking to a brigade surgeon (a female) about the behavior of our troops “down range” when we were in Kosovo. She said that the females in that setting intentionally used pregnancy to get sent back home.
It’s not just “ain’t it awful”. That absence left a hole in a unit that then had to be filled in with extra work for everyone else. And that gap can’t be filled if the unit is attacked. That’s one less defender.
Do you believe what liberals believe; that men and women are the same? We’re not. Of course we’re going to act different because of the way we were created. What drives a person when they must make life and death decisions? Our emotions; how we react to fear, anger, witnessing death, and guilt....
Rubin is a Romney bot and this troll post nothing but Rick hate!
NO, I’m not for women in combat. That’s not why I posted it. I am from a military family and I have lots of reasons for believing women shouldn’t be in combat frontline positins. My point in posting was, there are just a lot of people here, who don’t know how weird and hateful, how pious and self-righteous Sanctimonium sounds to everyday people, even a lot of everyday republicans and especially young republicans...
Especially his remarks later on in the article about working women, many of whom are stuck in deadend jobs, and would much rather stay home than work, and can’t afford to... Sanctimonium preaches at people from some lofty perch that bespeaks him no understanding or compassion for what flawed humans living a difficult life are all about. And judging by the responses on this thread, I am right.
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Yes! vote for Newt the feminist! Vote for Newt for his humane policy on illegals who stayed for over 25 years! Vote for Newt because he’ll show up those Wall Street fat cats!
How about vote for Newt because he’s a conservative? Could work, you know.
It’s called the romantic element, and it doesn’t belong on the combat team.
Irrelevant whether he’s right or not, this stuff will cause him to lose an election against Obama much worse than he would have previously.
It’s not a good strategy to run candidates that most of half the electorate now hate. Goes for Gingrich as well.
What matters is that this meme that is now emerging on Santorum as a fringe kook...mean to boot...will soon be dominant.
Additionally, as contributors and potential contributors judge how this is being played in the press they will hold their money close and start looking for another bet to place.
Rick is not a very good communicator on important issues and does APPEAR strident and/or mean to many people.
The Israelis confirmed this experiencein 1948. Females are used in other capacities and in motivating young male recruits..
He didn’t say it was the WOMEN’S emotions!
(It is logically the men’s protective - or jealous, or competitive - emotions toward women that can compromise battle effectiveness.)
So we should be for Romney then, huh? He knows how to play it safe because he’s not so conservative.
If Jennifer Rubin is where you're going for your political discourse now, you just may stand to learn a thing or two by studying Rick.
But before you speak so ardently about "another disgusting liberal attack on a conservative" - remember this?:
"Can one really complain about Romney's attack ads, slanted though they may be, when Newt sends out robocalls to Florida seniors telling them Mitt forced Holocaust survivors to eat non-Kosher food?
You actually defended Willard Your Worst Nightmare's attacks on Newt, and more, the calls you talked about were made by a rogue group, which Newt nothing about...
Yep, you're a Sanctimonium supporter, all right.
Santorum may be right, but this won’t play well for soundbites if he gets the nom. It just won’t.
I agree this wasn't Rick at his most eloquent, but he's basically saying no women in combat because their emotions would cause men to do militarily dumb things trying to protect their women. I thought that was one of the more common arguments made against having women in combat. I've never served in the military - never figured I had a chance to with uncorrected vision that couldn't see the eye chart much less read any line on it - so I'm willing to defer to the many freepers who have served if I'm wrong on this. I agree that Newt would probably have said this better, but I think he'd accept Rick as being on the proper side of the argument.
Eloquence isn't required for election of Republican presidents, at least not if you give the right answer and are sincere about it. W proved that. I'm not saying it doesn't hurt to be eloquent, but Rick's average remains well about W's reputation... and "corpsman" Obama's reality.
I like Santorum, but he really needs to STFU sometimes. This should not be a trick question: It’s an iron, universal demographic law that women of childbearing age have to be protected, otherwise there won’t be a next generation. Biologically speaking, men are expendable, women are not.
I would expect a concise, powerful, emotionless and totally logical response from the usual vacuum headed media madams.
Better turn your volume down.
And I, for one, like men’s natural protective instincts towards women, I count on them, and evoke them when I can :). I replied to someone earlier, I am from a military family, and don’t support women in combat frontline positions for lots of reasons.
But there are a million more things like this that are out there, some worse, much worse from Sanctimonium. He turns a lot of republicans off with his holier-than-thou, strident rigidity and judgmentalness... the general public is going to consider him some sort of bizarre monster.
The cry here when Newt was getting sliced and diced was let
him get vetted - we need strong candidates who can withstand what obama will throw at them. It didn’t matter if most of the stuff was totally false or extremely misrepresentative...
And what this thread proves, is when Santorum supporters get the kind of stuff thrown at them that was thrown at Newt for weeks at a time, while he stayed positive, they respond with you hate, you ugly, head up your ass... this does not bode well...
I sometimes cried at the mean stuff posted here about Newt, I probably shouldn’t admit to that, but unless I was called a name first, or several times, I defended him with facts and ideas and arguments... Sanctimonium supports, most of them, can’t do that. They just fling...
As I'm sure you know but have chosen to ignore, the robocalls in question were, in fact, put out by the Gingrich campaign. To their credit, they said the robocall had not been properly vetted and would never be repeated.
So when you complain that I call certain people ignorant...
Yes, you are right. Even the most professionally-dedicated women realize at some point, as they age, that their biological imperative, motherhood, those emotions and stipulations in their DNA, truly are their prime defining properties, what makes them who they are. But they will not abide for a moment, this kind of stuff coming from a man who judges everybody else as a sinner, not on a par with his quality character, and sometimes just plain mean, or seemingly so... I disagreed with you, men are NOT expendable, they fix cars really well, and almost always volunteer to go out after midnight for Chinese food, even on a weeknight. We need them, we love them. :)
Do you have a link for that? Because I can provide one for Newt saying he knew nothing about it.. though I’d rather not have to..
I didn’t call you any names... I stated some facts... big dif...
You mean I could get paid for posting articles containing actual verifiable true quotes from Sanctimonium and get paid for it? Where, please tell me...
If you can handle it, I'll give you some facts. Hell, even if you can't handle it, I'll post it anyways.
I have an aunt who passed away last October. She served as an Army nurse on active duty for 26 years with duty in both Korea and Vietnam, retiring as a full Colonel in the early 1970's. That's a fact.
In 2005 she celebrated her 80th birthday. Our family sent letters to members of the PA congressional delegation asking if they would care to participate in, or recognize her birthday.
One member of the delegation bothered to respond.
That member sent a very personal letter thanking my aunt for her years of service and her dedication to the defense of this nation.
That member was Senator Santorum.
That sir, is a fact.
To post something that suggests, or misrepresent's Santorum's views on women in uniform, is dishonest.
I know better.
Romney, Rubin Coulter = Ménage à trois
Certainly, because women across all demographics are clamoring for their daughters to be cannon fodder for jihadists in the Mideast and Northern Africa.
I thought that was exactly what happened when the IDF tried using women in combat; it was traumatizing for the men to see them wounded/killed.
“She said that the females in that setting intentionally used pregnancy to get sent back home.”
I remember the “Love Boat” in the first Gulf War, which had a high number of pregnancies on its deployment; every one of those women, and the “baby-daddys” if they could be identified, should have been dishonorably discharged. They liked cashing the checks and the bennies, but when the time came to step up they lay down - what a disgrace (and a blow to “equality”).
“Its an iron, universal demographic law that women of childbearing age have to be protected, otherwise there wont be a next generation. Biologically speaking, men are expendable, women are not.”
Who is supposed to impregnate the women? I work with several women who refused to have children; they’re expendable, as long as someone will look after their dog/cat. All they do is complain at work how women with children have allowances made for them in terms of work schedules, and that any company picnic that includes employees’ children should include their pets as well; I have no problem with these biologically unproductive women serving in frontline units.
The article contained quotes about Santorum, quotes, it wasn’t an editorial. It supplied quotes, that is why I posted it.
God bless your Aunt, God bless her for her years of service, she must have been one of the pioneer women in the military who made it so much easier for military women of today... And I have no doubt Santorum, or his office, would do something that thoughtful. No doubt. But then, I know people from PA, and I know lots of people from the military, and I know they all, each one, are gold... but not everybody knows that, like you and I do. And Santorum says a lot of judgmental things that turn the average person off... that was my point of the post..
A friend of mine recently sent Callista an IM, and asked her if Newt could send his 80-year old father, a veteran, a birthday card. Well, not only did Callista follow up, Newt actually called the man, and they had a wonderful little chat, and I am sure it meant a great deal to him.
Would that make you feel different about supporting Newt as a candidate, or feel differently about his policies? Probably not, and I wouldn’t expect it to. But Santorum has said a lot of judgmental and hypocritical things, and he is going to pay for them as they are revealed.
I read through that FR thread and your Aunt was a beautiful woman, and the one graphic with the plane and the TAPs was so beautiful it hurt. I couldn’t get the Indiana Gazette to pull up the article for me though.
God Bless You and Your Family, and you must know I meant no disrespect to them, or you, at all.
Don’t know anything about emotions but
men behave differently around women than they do
around other men.
Women definitely would impede the kill people and break things mission in combat.