Posted on 02/09/2012 8:03:54 PM PST by true believer forever
“I think that could be a very compromising situation, where people naturally may do things that may not be in the interest of the mission because of other types of emotions that are involved. It already happens, of course, with the camaraderie of men in combat, but I think it would be even more unique if women were in combat,” Santorum added. “And I think that’s not in the best interests of men, women or the mission.”
Such remarks may please some social conservatives who were never that keen on women serving in the military, but this may not sit well with women who work, sometimes in male-dominated jobs.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
:-)
Not exactly sure what your point is, and I’ll be a grown up and not be offended that you may or may not have referred to me as either stupid and/or a troll.
I would have liked you more if you had stopped with: “Sorry, I just didn’t read that post through.” :)
I don’t care if you like me. I can’t stand you.
I’m impressed.
Obviously you’re not interested in truth. I KNOW he said it at last year’s CPAC!
His book's demeaning attack on women choosing careers over barefoot-and-pregnant helped obliterate his 2006 reelection campaign. It's a pity the debates have only touched on it once.
His zombie follower don't realize he's, at best, an establishment pawn.
We can add this to his bizarre answer on taxes, suggesting his own wife had no access to them on the home computer.
SPEAKER UPDATE: Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin will be the closing speaker for CPAC 2012!
http://cpac2012.conservative.org/
I included you only because you were a part of the conversation. ;o)
“Just because I’m a mom that does not mean that I didn’t want to be there,” Palin told Hannity, responding to Santorum’s accusation that she’s skipping CPAC to earn money and support her kids. “I’m the proud mother of five. My kids don’t hold me back from attending a conference.”
She added, “I will not call him the knuckle-dragging Neanderthal. I’ll let his wife call him that instead.”
Both Palin and Santorum are contributors to Fox News.
Conservative radio host Tammy Bruce, who is close to Palin’s team, excoriated Santorum for his comments.
“Make note: The ‘All she wants is money’ & attacks on her motherhood are the new line against Palin,” she tweeted. “It’s patronizing crap, nothing less.”
“All I said was — she is VERY busy. PERIOD,” Santorum tweeted after the Politico report quoted his appearance on a radio show. “Reporter trying to create something out of nothing.”
“If CPAC were in Anchorage, I wouldn’t go, I have responsibilities, too,” he said.
But listeners can be the judge as Santorum’s comments were made during a live online radio interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny2aopQ08Bg with conservative commentator S.E. Cupp.
LOL...you KNOW he said it at last year's CPAC??? You were there and you heard it with your own ears? You are the one who linked to the article from Politico. The article you linked is clear that the comments were not made at CPAC, but during an interview with SE Cupp during CPAC. I dug a little deeper and actually found the audio of that portion of the interview in question in it's entirety and in context. I'm sorry that it does not conform to your delusional "truth".
For some reason you have a major bug up your rear about Santorum. I neither know nor care why, but I'm not going to let you get away with distorting the truth because of it. I will do exactly the same if I see lies posted about Newt.
Does it really not occur to you that Santorum might possibly be the Republican nominee? If that happens, what will be your course of action? I prefer to leave my options open.
Okay - I was hoping and pretty sure that was the case. D*mn girl, I wouldn't want to be on your bad side. You pack a mean punch (and I mean that in a good way).
“I think the reports were much worse than what he really said. I think some things were really taken out of context. So I will not call him the knuckle dragging neanderthal that perhaps others would want to call him. I’ll let his wife call him that instead.” - Sarah Palin
Thankyou, for the accuracy. http://video.foxnews.com/v/4532883/2012-feud-palin-vs-santorum
Good find. If anything Sarah Palin is the one who is being snarky and unkind. How would Santorum know what her reasons were if she hadn’t told him herself? He simply gave his best guess when asked to make a guess. The most important thing he said was “I’m sure she’s doing what’s best for her and her family.” She didn’t accept that very graciously.
Some thoughts:
1. As a former member of the Senate Armed Services Committee whose father was a career Veterans Administration psychologist, Santorum is better qualified than most people other than military veterans to make his statement. His father spent his entire career dealing with the consequences when servicemembers break down.
2. Stuff like this sounds **REALLY** bad to civilians who don't understand the military and to women who are in the military. It's politically stupid to say because it antagonizes a fair number of military personnel and gives red meat to the liberals.
3. I know lots of kick-butt female soldiers and respect their service. I strongly believe most women would not want to do what they do, and would not be very good at doing it. Those positions are not incompatible in the least. Let's let women who want to fight do so, while respecting the fact that it takes personalities and skills to be a soldier which most women do not have and do not want to have.
BTW, this is coming from the proud uncle of a 5'2” Korean woman, daughter of a South Korean special forces soldier, who recently out-shot two US Army captains on the Fort Leonard Wood rifle range, one of whom was making comments about how women shouldn't be in the military. Some women make great soldiers, and making my niece mad is a good way to get yourself embarrassed.
I will never vote for Santorum. He’s a skunk.
Well, calling us “Sanctimonium supporters” doesn't exactly bring out the best in us... ;-)
Seriously, however, read my last post and this one.
Every candidate has their “-bots.” I am a conservative evangelical who supports Santorum, not because I think he's ideal or perfect, but because he's the best candidate left. I'm painfully aware of problems with some of his views and votes. He's not the best person out there, but I think he's better than Newt Gingrich and a **WHOLE** lot better than Mitt Romney or Ron Paul.
However, I could make a long list of my problems with Santorum, too, and some of them might be things on which you and I agree.
This, however, isn't among them:
78 posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 12:37:41 AM by true believer forever: “So, I guess Sanctimonium is saying his approach to marriage and parenthood, is to basically let the woman do all that women’s work... while he’s out with the posse doing important man’s work in DC... what a jerk!”
It's pretty clear that Rick Santorum defends traditional male and female roles. No surprise there.
I don't discuss most personal family details on the internet, but I've seen firsthand the ugly face of male bigotry against women, and while it was worse decades ago, it's not gone yet. I have decades of history as a conservative arguing that women who want to work in a man's world have every right to do so, but then they can't demand the standards be lowered to let women in.
I believe that's a choice every woman should have, but not one they should be forced into.
Lots of women would rather stay home and be wives and mothers. That's fine, too. My wife happens to be both highly educated — two masters degrees and a doctoral degree — and highly successful in her business. That's her choice, but we would not impose that choice on others.
What's sad is that liberalism claims to give women choices when it actually demeans the choices that lots of women would prefer.
I think I see Santorum saying women should have the right to choose to be at home if they want to do so. Seems like a good idea to me, and one which will resonate with many conservative women.
88 posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 12:57:11 AM by AmericanInTokyo: “Wasn’t the woman taken by the Iraqi Army in the opening salvo of the war, captured, and then RAPED??”
95 posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 1:20:47 AM by true believer forever: “Jessica Lynch, she was a tiny little blonde thing... and I don’t think the military ever published that she was raped, and I don’t know if she said that in her book. My assumption would be that she was raped... she might not have wanted to say so...”
I don't think American in Tokyo meant Jessica Lynch. If he's thinking of the first Gulf War, he's basically right about what happened to a flight surgeon after a crash.
Her case got very little publicity at the time, in significant measure because of concerns to respect her privacy and also political concerns that American public opinion would be greatly inflamed when we were trying to hold a coalition together to back our liberation of Kuwait. If it had become widely known that an American officer was sexually assaulted after her capture, I'm not convinced that President George H.W. Bush could have prevented a massive outcry demanding that we go all the way to Baghdad to throw out Saddam Hussein. Hindsight is 20-20 and maybe that would have been a good thing, but considering the political realities in the Arab world in the late 1980s and early 1990s, nobody knows what would have happened if the coalition had fragmented and we had lost our basing locations in Saudi Arabia. Logistically, we were in a much better position to do what we did in the second Gulf War when we could rely on basing locations in Kuwait, but even then we had to deal with political problems from Turkey.
Years later, I heard her give a lecture on the subject at a conference for women's mental health issues in the military. I forget now whether she was a general or a colonel when she gave her speech, but the key point is she stayed in the military and worked to help women deal with issues related to serving in the military.
Good for her. Lots of women and men would never remain in the service after an experience like that, and I wouldn't blame them for that decision.
One qualification: “sexually assaulted” would be a better word for what I heard happened to her. However, she may not have wanted to go into more details in a public forum, and what she said was bad enough.
Was that the LaSalle?
Women shouldn’t be in frontline combat. It’s cowardly for the men too allow it. Men should want to defend women and children and be ready to do so. All the cowardly evil cultures like the muslims hide behind women in combat.
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