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Bishops Renew Call To Legislative Action On Religious Liberty
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Posted on 02/10/2012 5:30:23 PM PST by Rutles4Ever

February 10, 2012

WASHINGTON – The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) have issued the following statement:

The Catholic bishops have long supported access to life-affirming healthcare for all, and the conscience rights of everyone involved in the complex process of providing that healthcare. That is why we raised two serious objections to the "preventive services" regulation issued by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) in August 2011.

First, we objected to the rule forcing private health plans — nationwide, by the stroke of a bureaucrat's pen—to cover sterilization and contraception, including drugs that may cause abortion. All the other mandated "preventive services" prevent disease, and pregnancy is not a disease. Moreover, forcing plans to cover abortifacients violates existing federal conscience laws. Therefore, we called for the rescission of the mandate altogether.

Second, we explained that the mandate would impose a burden of unprecedented reach and severity on the consciences of those who consider such "services" immoral: insurers forced to write policies including this coverage; employers and schools forced to sponsor and subsidize the coverage; and individual employees and students forced to pay premiums for the coverage. We therefore urged HHS, if it insisted on keeping the mandate, to provide a conscience exemption for all of these stakeholders—not just the extremely small subset of "religious employers" that HHS proposed to exempt initially.

Today, the President has done two things.

First, he has decided to retain HHS's nationwide mandate of insurance coverage of sterilization and contraception, including some abortifacients. This is both unsupported in the law and remains a grave moral concern. We cannot fail to reiterate this, even as so many would focus exclusively on the question of religious liberty.

Second, the President has announced some changes in how that mandate will be administered, which is still unclear in its details. As far as we can tell at this point, the change appears to have the following basic contours:

·It would still mandate that all insurers must include coverage for the objectionable services in all the policies they would write. At this point, it would appear that self-insuring religious employers, and religious insurance companies, are not exempt from this mandate.

·It would allow non-profit, religious employers to declare that they do not offer such coverage. But the employee and insurer may separately agree to add that coverage. The employee would not have to pay any additional amount to obtain this coverage, and the coverage would be provided as a part of the employer's policy, not as a separate rider.

·Finally, we are told that the one-year extension on the effective date (from August 1, 2012 to August 1, 2013) is available to any non-profit religious employer who desires it, without any government application or approval process.

These changes require careful moral analysis, and moreover, appear subject to some measure of change. But we note at the outset that the lack of clear protection for key stakeholders—for self-insured religious employers; for religious and secular for-profit employers; for secular non-profit employers; for religious insurers; and for individuals—is unacceptable and must be corrected. And in the case where the employee and insurer agree to add the objectionable coverage, that coverage is still provided as a part of the objecting employer's plan, financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the objecting employer. This, too, raises serious moral concerns.

We just received information about this proposal for the first time this morning; we were not consulted in advance. Some information we have is in writing and some is oral. We will, of course, continue to press for the greatest conscience protection we can secure from the Executive Branch. But stepping away from the particulars, we note that today's proposal continues to involve needless government intrusion in the internal governance of religious institutions, and to threaten government coercion of religious people and groups to violate their most deeply held convictions. In a nation dedicated to religious liberty as its first and founding principle, we should not be limited to negotiating within these parameters. The only complete solution to this religious liberty problem is for HHS to rescind the mandate of these objectionable services.

We will therefore continue—with no less vigor, no less sense of urgency—our efforts to correct this problem through the other two branches of government. For example, we renew our call on Congress to pass, and the Administration to sign, the Respect for Rights of Conscience Act. And we renew our call to the Catholic faithful, and to all our fellow Americans, to join together in this effort to protect religious liberty and freedom of conscience for all.


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1 posted on 02/10/2012 5:30:41 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

I do hope this is real and not some hoax. Haven’t heard a thing about it on Fox (maybe it’s still too early).


2 posted on 02/10/2012 5:46:30 PM PST by Mach9
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To: Rutles4Ever
·It would still mandate that all insurers must include coverage for the objectionable services in all the policies they would write. At this point, it would appear that self-insuring religious employers, and religious insurance companies, are not exempt from this mandate.

Obama Epic Fail!

3 posted on 02/10/2012 5:46:49 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
The Catholic bishops have long supported access to life-affirming healthcare for all ....

Yeah, they crawled into the sack with Satan, and then when he wants his due they get all moral and stuff.

4 posted on 02/10/2012 6:06:23 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mach9

Oh, it’s real. Follow the link above.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 6:06:40 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Not all of the bishops were on-board, but too many were. I say better late than never.


6 posted on 02/10/2012 6:08:23 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


7 posted on 02/10/2012 6:10:10 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Rutles4Ever

“Second, the President has announced some changes in how that mandate will be administered, which is still unclear in its details.”


Huh? Whats still unclear? They still have to pay the insurance companies to pay for abortions! I have a bad feeling they will back down on this.

It’s like a concientious objector during the Vietnam War. (the real ones,,,not the fake ones) They get out of serving because they don’t believe in violence, but then the govt. says they still have to buy the weapons for others to use to kill.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 6:27:52 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Rutles4Ever

We wouldn’t even be having this discussion if we didn’t have a MARXIST for a pResident.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 6:38:17 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
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I'm not coming down off the mountain with the tablets here...but there is a reason why over the last 5,000 years and most recently in China and the old USSR, central planning and BIG GUBMINT has been the enemy of religious freedom. Statists want you to worship the STATE as God. They don't want any competition.

10 posted on 02/10/2012 6:49:11 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Thanks for posting the actual statement from the Bishops.

This is a good deal stronger than the earlier news stories reporting on it. They all quote that polite bit about its not being clear and that they will wait for more information.

But the rest of the statement is certainly strong enough, and it concludes with a determination to pursue a legislative solution to this fascist imposition on religions freedom.

Note also that it demands religious freedom for ALL who object to abortion, not just Catholic hospitals and schools. I hadn’t seen that in any of the earlier news reports. Very glad to see it here.


11 posted on 02/10/2012 6:54:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
You are exactly right. Our bishop published a how to vote guide in October 2008. In our bulletins we were instructed to vote for a politician who understands that affordable health care is a basic human right and who also understands that no human is illegal. The USCCB is waking up with flees and I'm not surprised.
12 posted on 02/10/2012 6:54:28 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: chessplayer

Correct. Weak statement. This “accommodation” should have been categorically and publicly denounced b4 Obama finished speaking.

As to this bishop Dolan, I suggest that instead of going to Rome to be promoted, that he check into a Catholic hospital to have a spine installed.

Both Dolan and the whore (Sister Carole Judas Ascariot Keehan) have given Obama ample political cover over this critical weekend. Disgusting and shameful.


13 posted on 02/10/2012 7:02:48 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: Rutles4Ever

If the Bishops hold their ground, this is good.

Obama didn’t do a damn thing but shift the unconstitutional rule from one party to another.

He is a wannabe dictator, and we have to fire his narrow ass in November.


14 posted on 02/10/2012 7:11:20 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: goodwithagun

Statists will take advantage of people of faith when it suits their purpose...then crucify them.


15 posted on 02/10/2012 7:11:36 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Next 0bama will force Jewish and Muslim schools to serve pork.

People of ALL faiths need to stand tall for religious liberty.


16 posted on 02/10/2012 7:15:10 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: chessplayer

The unclear nature of Obama’s new plan is mentioned in this Bishops’ letter. They bring up the religious insurers for example. Then they also mention the need to address other non-profits as well as secular businesses who may have a need for a conscience clause waiver.

This brings to mind that many Catholic and Christian bookstores all over the country. These folks are usually lay people of faith. Why should they have to pay for medical care which is against their faith?

I think the bishops are wise to evaluate all the nuances of the entire issue. Notice how they are now raising the issue of legistlative action to address the religious concerns of everyone ion this country, not just the churches.

I feel much better after reading this response. I do not think they are going to cave under the Obama pressure. Notice again that they mention the fact that freedom of religion cannot be negotiated, as it is a fundamental right.


17 posted on 02/10/2012 7:18:46 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Rutles4Ever
Good for them and BRAVO!

I W I S H it was for Constitutional reasons rather than their objection to an injustice directed at them.

I also wish they'd realize that without the USA they would face an existential threat they may not be able to withstand.

18 posted on 02/10/2012 7:30:44 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: mwl8787

Two questions:

1. Did you read the statement?
2. Is English your first language?


19 posted on 02/10/2012 7:37:14 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Drango

Next he’ll want to have everyone fed by the government. After all, it’s necessary to health. Way more than contraception. We must be fed, and fed properly.


20 posted on 02/10/2012 7:56:26 PM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

If the Bishops cave, the nation will be so demoralized I’m not sure we could recover. Seriously.

(No I’m not Catholic, I’m evangelical)


21 posted on 02/10/2012 8:00:12 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Who are you and what have you done with Ann Coulter?!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
"Hello Barack, we read your stupid 'policy revision' and it is B.S."

"It would still, in practice, compel the inclusion of contraception coverage in the insurance policies of private religious institutions. The only 'change' is semantic, calling that contraception coverage a 'free benefit' provided by the insurer, even though the insurer would not be providing any such 'free benefit' except as a direct corollary of the private religious institutions purchase of the insurance."

"Thus, the reply to your un-Constitutional subversion of freedom of religion - guaranteed by the First Amendment you f'ing prick - remains the same:"

"WE WILL NOT COMPLY."

22 posted on 02/10/2012 8:01:45 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: don-o

Thanks for the feedback. Your sarcasm is so helpful to constructive dialogue.

I suggest you visit NRO, hotair or other conservative sites that blasted the timidity of Bishop Dolan and other leity today.


23 posted on 02/10/2012 8:03:19 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: Rutles4Ever
And in the case where the employee and insurer agree to add the objectionable coverage, that coverage is still provided as a part of the objecting employer's plan, financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the objecting employer.

Under Obama's original proposal, religious organizations would offer a base healthcare plan to all employees.

Female employees who wished to obtain optional contraceptive services would then be provided these additional products by the religious organizations "free of charge" - although the religious organizations would be charged for the additional services by their insurance carriers.

NOW, Obama wants to REQUIRE the religious organizations' insurance carriers to provide these optional contraceptive services DIRECTLY to the female employees [who want them] for FREE.

This is all well and good - AS LONG AS THE PRICE FOR THE BASE PLAN [CHARGED OF ALL EMPLOYEES AND PAID FOR BY THE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS] DOES NOT INCREASE.

IF the insurance carrier INCREASES the price of the base plan [for all employees] EVEN ONE PENNY, then the religious organizations ARE paying for contraceptive services.

Insurance carriers ARE NOT in the charity business - SO YOU CAN BET THAT THEY WILL PASS ALONG THE COST.

OBAMA'S NEW PLAN IS BOGUS !!!

24 posted on 02/10/2012 8:05:26 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I don't think it's a hoax, not with 95 percent of the U. S. Dioceses coming out against Obortion O on this!

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25 posted on 02/10/2012 8:12:03 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I think you are wrong this time.

Dear CV Friend,

What just happened?

The truth: the assault on religious liberty just got worse.

Moments ago President Obama introduced an accounting gimmick to appease voters over his recent Health and Human Services mandate. The so-called compromise will continue to force virtually all employers, including religious institutions, to pay into insurance policies that cover abortion drugs and other immoral medicines and procedures.

What's the catch?

To protect himself from the national backlash, the President announced a "compromise" that will allow religious institutions to withhold premiums paid to insurance companies for select medicines and procedures they believe are immoral.

But these immoral medicines and drugs will continue to be provided by the same insurance plans for free -- to everyone, including every employee of Catholic institutions!

So President Obama decided to use insurance companies to hide his assault on religious liberty.

Separating the premiums paid to insurance companies does not change what these policies will cover. The very same policies funded by religious institutions will continue to cover contraception, birth control, and abortion drugs for every employee of these organizations. To pretend, by an accounting gimmick, that the premiums paid by the employer will not subsidize these services is simply absurd.

Furthermore, self-funded insurance plans (like many of those used by Catholic institutions) will continue to be forced to provide these immoral medicines.

And owners of businesses who believe abortion drugs are immoral? Sorry. To hell with liberty. Pay up.

All Americans should shudder at what has just transpired.

Despite repeated promises during the healthcare debate in 2009, the President of the United States has created a sham conscience compromise, and ordered all insurance companies to pay for abortion drugs -- and all religious institutions will be forced to pay into these plans.

He thought he could get away with this assault on our freedom. We called him out and forced him to respond. Now we must call his bluff.

This isn't the end.

CV President Brian Burch has been on the phone all morning with members of Congress urging them to immediately introduce legislation that will protect the conscience rights of all Americans.

Catholics don't want an accounting gimmick.

We want freedom.

And we won't rest until we get it.


- Your Friends at CatholicVote.org


26 posted on 02/10/2012 8:14:07 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Pyro7480

95 percent of the dioceses isn’t bad. Only four bishops have not spoken out against Obama.


27 posted on 02/10/2012 8:15:14 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SoFloFreeper

One of the Bishop’s letter actually started with the words, “Go to hell, Obama.”


28 posted on 02/10/2012 8:16:53 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Female reverend on Foxnews praised obama for bending over backwards to try to accomaodate the “unreasonable” Catholic bishops. She then went on to say that late term abortions are a blessing.


29 posted on 02/10/2012 8:55:59 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Salvation

That letter sounds prophetic!


30 posted on 02/10/2012 8:56:54 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: chessplayer

There are no female reverends in the Catholic Church. Was it a Catholic nun, maybe?


31 posted on 02/10/2012 9:20:53 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Do you have a link to that letter?


32 posted on 02/10/2012 9:59:33 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: chessplayer

Video or “reverend” name?


33 posted on 02/10/2012 10:00:33 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Pyro7480; NYer; Salvation; narses; holdonnow

Meanwhile...

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/minneapolis-adopts-sharia-law-to-help-muslim-businesses/


34 posted on 02/10/2012 10:17:55 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray. God's will be done. Abortion leaves two victims, the mother and the child.)
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To: Lady Lucky
"Next he’ll want to have everyone fed by the government"

That stuff is beneath a messiah- the First Clydesdale has that job.

35 posted on 02/10/2012 10:31:08 PM PST by matthew fuller (Obama has definitely earned a second term- 99 years in Leavenworth USP.)
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To: chessplayer

I saw that bitch. Couldn’t believe what I was hearing.


36 posted on 02/10/2012 10:38:30 PM PST by matthew fuller (Obama has definitely earned a second term- 99 years in Leavenworth USP.)
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To: matthew fuller

I think that she was Episcopalian.


37 posted on 02/10/2012 10:40:20 PM PST by matthew fuller (Obama has definitely earned a second term- 99 years in Leavenworth USP.)
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To: Salvation

You must be joking. :) I wish...


38 posted on 02/11/2012 12:49:26 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Salvation
One of the Bishop’s letter actually started with the words, “Go to hell, Obama.”

Are you quite sure of that? Did not the letter begin with "Go to hell." and then go on to explain that that is what Obama is telling the Catholic Church?

39 posted on 02/11/2012 3:11:22 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: mwl8787
I suggest you visit NRO, hotair or other conservative sites that blasted the timidity of Bishop Dolan and other leity today.

I went to both sites and did not find the blasts. Please supply links. Thank you.

40 posted on 02/11/2012 3:33:06 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Doesn’t this statement assume we are dealing with an hnest broker? What about Bart Stupak (I know he may have been intentionally blind to what would happen...)? Obama lies, and misrepresents. Anyone remember the meeting years back he had in the Oval Office with business leaders, and when they all left, he lied about what what was said/agreed to? He cannot be trusted.

Bart Stupak.


41 posted on 02/11/2012 5:02:50 AM PST by PghBaldy (Bart Stupak. Onece again, Obama proves he is not an honest broker. He can't be trusted.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I'm an atheist, and I am also pro-life.

Does the Church care whether or not I am forced to provide abortion coverage to my employees?

Or, are they concerned with their own freedoms only??

42 posted on 02/11/2012 5:12:04 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Salvation
I don't think it's a hoax

Oh, I agree that the Church is seriously opposed to one specific clause of Obamacare.

They want it excised so they can go back to supporting this wonderful, humane law for the rest of us.

43 posted on 02/11/2012 5:16:04 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Notary Sojac
From the bishops' statement:
But we note at the outset that the lack of clear protection for key stakeholders—for self-insured religious employers; for religious and secular for-profit employers; for secular non-profit employers; for religious insurers; and for individuals—is unacceptable and must be corrected. And in the case where the employee and insurer agree to add the objectionable coverage, that coverage is still provided as a part of the objecting employer's plan, financed in the same way as the rest of the coverage offered by the objecting employer. This, too, raises serious moral concerns.
The bishops are indeed expanding their objection to include everyone who has moral reservations and not just religious institutions.
44 posted on 02/11/2012 5:29:45 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


45 posted on 02/11/2012 5:47:08 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Petrosius
Well, I think they will fold once they've gotten an exception for Catholic institutions.

But I hope I am wrong. Bump for future reference.

46 posted on 02/11/2012 6:19:59 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Was just flipping the dial, came across a show on MSNBC called...Up Yours with Chris Hayes...pretty laughable, a panel of 5 gay fag dems saying how brilliant Obama was with this issue....

Unflippinbelievable


47 posted on 02/11/2012 6:33:52 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
"..there is a reason why over the last 5,000 years and most recently in China and the old USSR, central planning and BIG GUBMINT has been the enemy of religious freedom. Statists want you to worship the STATE as God. They don't want any competition.

Thank you for stating (no pun intended) the bottom line. Please post an occasional reminder to us of what is really happening with this issue.

48 posted on 02/11/2012 8:36:34 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: Rutles4Ever

It’s the “Principal” not the money!! The money is still coming from all of us.


49 posted on 02/11/2012 9:18:29 AM PST by jacob allen
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To: Rutles4Ever

Quite frankly, I’m as pissed at these Bishops for letting this go on so long as I am at Barky.


50 posted on 02/11/2012 10:54:52 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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