THE DAWN OF THE ENERGY AGE

South Coast Today/ Middleboro Gazette ^ | February 09, 2012 3:35 PM | Mark Belanger

[Wonder Warthog]

"(previous posts were reporting 0.08 W continuous, which suggests measurement error)."

Not really. If you actually check the full writeup, the COP for the 80 mw is 10X, and the sensitivity of the calorimeter is also given. Although small, the excess heat is WELL above the limit of detection of the calorimetry.

"Since the experiment ran at a measured 170% thermal efficiency I would take that as an iron clad guarantee that "nuclear processes" were, in fact, providing the excess energy. Is there any other artifact generated besides the thermal energy released? Electromagnetic waves or particles of any sort? It does seem rather odd that these reactions release nothing but heat w/ no discernible byproducts."

There are MANY CF experiments that have given similar excess heat ratios, and virtually all the necessary nuclear signatures have been seen (formation of He4 (and He3!), tritium, x- and gamma rays, and even the occasional stray neutron), but always at many orders of magnitude lower than can account for the excess heat.

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

virtually all the necessary nuclear signatures have been seen (formation of He4 (and He3!), tritium, x- and gamma rays, and even the occasional stray neutron), but always at many orders of magnitude lower than can account for the excess heat.

Now that's really interesting! I would expect a neutron flux directly proportional to the excess heat output... The "high temperature" fusion experiments favor using the neutron flux as the path to recovering energy from the reactor as any attempt to process the plasma itself would necessarily quench the fusion reaction.

You and Kevmo have been most helpful in providing a "reading list" of suggested sources on LENR background. Thanks to both of you and if I may ask a favor, could you point me to information that addresses the dearth of "nuclear signatures"? It still seems remarkable to me that the world has found a potential energy source with no appreciable down side.

Regards,
GtG

PS Helium-3 on tap? Might just save us a trip or two to the moon!

[Wonder Warthog]

"I would expect a neutron flux directly proportional to the excess heat output... The "high temperature" fusion experiments favor using the neutron flux as the path to recovering energy from the reactor as any attempt to process the plasma itself would necessarily quench the fusion reaction."

That is the main "sticking point" for the "hot" physicists. They expect neutrons and see almost (or) none. And the "maxiumum neutron pathway" is only preferred in Tokamaks. Bussard's polywell may be able to convert directly from p-B. (And that's a whole other story, which I'm also following).

"Thanks to both of you and if I may ask a favor, could you point me to information that addresses the dearth of "nuclear signatures"? It still seems remarkable to me that the world has found a potential energy source with no appreciable down side."

You can't beat the "Library" section of LENR-CANR.org. If you sort by "Categories", you'll get "Experiment, particle", which, I think, is precisely what you're looking for.

""Helium-3 on tap? Might just save us a trip or two to the moon!"

There are some sub-categories of CF research that are apparently being VERY CAREFULLY avoided (like what happens when you use mixtures of H and D). An easy route to tritium?? He3?? I suspect that the military is or has looked at this....or darned well should be.