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CATHOLIC CHARITIES CAVES. NOW WHAT?
Catholic Culture ^ | February 10, 2012 | Phil Lawler

Posted on 02/11/2012 11:32:08 AM PST by Sons of Union Vets

Father Larry Snyder, the president of Catholic Charities USA, has welcomed the Obama administration’s “compromise” on the contraceptive mandate. He says:

This compromise enables Catholic Charities USA to not only continue to provide access to quality healthcare to its 70,000 employees and families across the country of many different faiths and backgrounds, but also guarantees the continued delivery of vital services to the more than 10 million people living in need across the country. So here’s where we stand: Within hours of President Obama’s announcement, without waiting for guidance from the US bishops, the heads of the Catholic Health Association and Catholic Charities USA—two of the largest Church-related employers in the country—have announced that they are now satisfied with the plan. Their defection will make it all the more difficult for the bishops to hold the line in defense of religious freedom.

There is a solution ready at hand, however. The US bishops could announce that, No, Catholic Charities USA will not provide healthcare under the terms of the HHS mandate—or it will cease to be called “Catholic.” (It would be a small loss; Catholic Charities USA today is mostly a conduit for government funds, carrying out government contracts.) And No, the Catholic Health Association will not accept the Obama “accommodation,” or else its member institutions will cease to be known as “Catholic” hospitals.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicculture.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bishops; catholiccharities; hhsmandate

1 posted on 02/11/2012 11:32:20 AM PST by Sons of Union Vets
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Here is an article that needs to go viral.


2 posted on 02/11/2012 11:33:16 AM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

There was NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO compromise.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2845298/posts


3 posted on 02/11/2012 11:36:26 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

Can the Bishops fire Fr. Snyder?


4 posted on 02/11/2012 11:37:22 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

How much was the bribe?


5 posted on 02/11/2012 11:39:07 AM PST by Roklok
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To: Steelfish

I believe so. However, my guess is that they will have a conversation with him first.


6 posted on 02/11/2012 11:39:07 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Sons of Union Vets

In 2009, President Barack Obama appointed Father Snyder the newly created President’s Advisory Council of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships. For a term of two years, Father Snyder worked with the staff of the Oval Office and 24 other religious and community leaders of diverse political, religious, and community backgrounds from across the country in promoting collegiality in finding community solutions and in offering advice on policy issues to the President.

From Catholic Charities USA website.


7 posted on 02/11/2012 11:40:49 AM PST by Mach9
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To: metmom

Remember the point about seeing where they stand? Now their leadership is going to have to step up, or not.


8 posted on 02/11/2012 11:41:13 AM PST by wmfights
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To: Sons of Union Vets
No surprise here. As I pointed out last week when this story first got a lot of media scrutiny, the Obama administration was technically correct when it determined that these organizations were not eligible for the religious exemption under ObamaCare. Despite its name, Catholic Charities isn't a "religious organization" by any objective measure.

Having some Marxist dope with a white collar as the organization's president doesn't change that, either.

9 posted on 02/11/2012 11:42:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Sons of Union Vets
"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ... the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government, they should watch over it ... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." - James Madison

Let the "instructions" about religious freedom, as well as the other freedoms set outside the purview of the government's authority by the First Amendment begin in every congregation and community in America!

For too long, the ideas of liberty were censored and erased from the "American mind" (Jefferson's description in 1776) by so-called "progressives" who now assume unconstitutional coercive power over the citizenry.

Their overreach has triggered a renewed interest in and devotion to Creator-endowed life, liberty, rights, and laws to protect them.

Although censored from the textbooks, Divine Providence may have outwitted the petty oppressors by allowing new technologies that make the writings and speeches of the Revolutionary period, and their ancient sources, available to every citizen with a computer.

Enlightened leaders must call our people to throw off the mindset of dependency on a self-appointed beneficent tyrant and "Proclaim Liberty throughout the Land." (Liberty Bell and Bible)

Unfortunately, there are opinion makers like Father Snyder who may not understand that those who become coopted by power become enslaved along with everyone else.

10 posted on 02/11/2012 11:42:35 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Sons of Union Vets

USCCB soon to follow in surrender! The objections of the USCCB was never going to be anything more than PR. Their real goal is a socialist utopia, murdered babies being just one of the costs.


11 posted on 02/11/2012 11:44:06 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Steelfish

If the bishops can’t, the pope can—BXVI appointed him. However, since this article appears to have gone public yesterday, we really have no idea of whether CCUSA jumped the gun.


12 posted on 02/11/2012 11:46:50 AM PST by Mach9
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To: jjotto

Have you read the USCCB’s response to the “accommodation”? They’re calling for Congress to reinforce their rejection.


13 posted on 02/11/2012 11:49:32 AM PST by Mach9
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To: jjotto
I agree with this. Watch how disappointed a lot of folks get when this whole thing shakes out.

The USCCB never had a problem with the ObamaCare mandates (which is why they never opposed ObamaCare -- and in fact openly supported many of its radical provisions -- in the first place). The reason they were so outraged over the administration's refusal to grant them this so-called "religious exemption" is that the decision basically exposed much of the Catholic Church in the U.S. as a complete fraud. These organizations that would have been required to meet the ObamaCare mandate are NOT religious organizations, folks -- they're enormous businesses that get a lot of their revenue through government programs.

14 posted on 02/11/2012 11:51:47 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Mach9

Organizations like the USCCB usually have factions, with one faction gaining the upper hand on things like position papers while another retains ultimate power. Let’s hope this shakes out on the right side.


15 posted on 02/11/2012 11:57:25 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Sons of Union Vets

How many pieces of silver did YOU get Fr Snyder?


16 posted on 02/11/2012 11:59:01 AM PST by W.Lee (No compromise)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

I ceased to donate to CC years ago. They are a bunch of abortion loving libs.


17 posted on 02/11/2012 12:12:01 PM PST by Mercat
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To: Sons of Union Vets

So now Catholic Charities is off my list of charities. Running out of places to donate money, lol.


18 posted on 02/11/2012 12:47:52 PM PST by risen_feenix
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19 posted on 02/11/2012 12:49:04 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Mach9

In other words Father Snyder is bought and paid for.


20 posted on 02/11/2012 1:15:21 PM PST by Venturer
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To: risen_feenix

Tomorrow in Church the Archbishops appeal will be read. They will say how they support Catholic Charities. I think I will take my Bible and read it during the appeal.

Between ACORN and Catholic Charities I think I will hold on to that money.


21 posted on 02/11/2012 1:18:14 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Sons of Union Vets

The MA office of Catholic Charities folded like a cheap suit, when they were faced with losing funds over the issue of allowing adoptions by homosexuals. Not surprising the national organization would be just as inconstant.


22 posted on 02/11/2012 1:27:09 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Sons of Union Vets
There's a revised statement out now. First line: "Catholic Charities USA welcomes the Administration's attempt to meet the concerns of the religious community and we look forward to reviewing the final language"
23 posted on 02/11/2012 1:28:40 PM PST by JustMeMcGee
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To: risen_feenix

I would be happy to accept a donation.


24 posted on 02/11/2012 1:30:38 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Alberta's Child

Did you read the USCCB position paper posted last night? They demanded that the Mandate be revoked and said that this is just one more instance of the government interfering in people’s personal affairs. That is a direct reference to the Constitution. Nobody’s going to cave; too much is at stake. If they can do it to the Catholics, it won’t be long before every faith-based program of any religion is directed from DC. Suggest you check out their last release made last night.

As for Catholic Charities, it is a joke. Haven’t given them a dime now in over 15 years.


25 posted on 02/11/2012 1:38:46 PM PST by Frank Sheed (This tagline space for rent.)
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To: wmfights

Telling, isn’t it?


26 posted on 02/11/2012 1:40:13 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

If the Catholic church as a whole caves, they will lose my support next time a crisis hits them.


27 posted on 02/11/2012 1:41:27 PM PST by jersey117 (Perry 2012)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Dear Fr Larry. You can get your pink slips ready. You forget who funds Catholic Charities...


28 posted on 02/11/2012 2:16:53 PM PST by Integrityrocks
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To: Sons of Union Vets

If a roman catholic voted for Obama, any roman catholic..
They have ten foot pole marks all over them..

They should be watched and monitored.. they are dangerous..


29 posted on 02/11/2012 3:13:12 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Frank Sheed
The bishops have rejected the so-called "accomodation."

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/210111-catholic-bishops-pan-obamas-birth-control-accommodation

As for Catholic Charities, it sounds to me as if they have been gradually morphing into a Planned Parenthood moneylaundering racket now merely disguised as "Catholic Charities."

30 posted on 02/11/2012 3:25:01 PM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: Integrityrocks
The other Catholic entity that caved is the Catholic Health Association vis a vis Sister Carol Keehan. As you all probebly know, she has already been in trouble with the bishops.

It has been suggested that the so-called accomodation from Obama was merely to appease Sister Carol Keehan and other liberal Catholics and to drive a wedge between them and their bishops.

Pres. Obama's "Plan B" Compromise, sister Keehan and the Magisterium of Nuns

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/02/pres-obamas-plan-b-compromise-sr-keehan-and-the-magisterium-of-nuns/

31 posted on 02/11/2012 3:38:01 PM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: Mercat
I have been disgusted with the CC for years.
I will always be a Catholic but I don't have to be proud of it.

32 posted on 02/11/2012 3:44:44 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: jjotto
USCCB soon to follow in surrender! The objections of the USCCB was never going to be anything more than PR. Their real goal is a socialist utopia, murdered babies being just one of the costs.

Not according to the Bishops' latest statement.

33 posted on 02/11/2012 7:15:07 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
A really really bad time to back down.

The Bishpops appeal to Catholic Charities is just beginning. I usually drop a $100 to them. Not this year, if this article is true.

34 posted on 02/11/2012 7:24:52 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: risen_feenix
EWTN might be a good one to donate to.

I will not be giving to CC this year. Mother Angelica could probable find a far better use for the money.

35 posted on 02/11/2012 7:28:06 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Thank you for posting this. I give to Catholic Charities USA once a year. The rest of the year I give to the local Catholic Charities which does a phenomenal job with multiple venues in central Minnesota.

I think the next time I get an envelope with a request, I will write a note to them and ask if they are in support of Obama’s Marxist paln to take over all the health care and charities in the USA. I wonder if they will respond.


36 posted on 02/11/2012 8:12:23 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To: mware

We haven’t given to Catholic Charities in years, precisely because of this kind of attitude, which they’ve had for many years.


37 posted on 02/11/2012 9:03:09 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Sounds like whoever made the decision to accept Obama’s non-compromise thinks he serves A Very Small God.


38 posted on 02/11/2012 9:09:49 PM PST by Not The Other One
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To: Sons of Union Vets

Sounds like whoever made the decision to accept Obama’s non-compromise thinks he serves A Very Small God.


39 posted on 02/11/2012 9:10:07 PM PST by Not The Other One
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To: Gumdrop
I think the next time I get an envelope with a request, I will write a note to them and ask if they are in support of Obama’s Marxist paln to take over all the health care and charities in the USA. I wonder if they will respond.

When I get a letter from them, I will be sending them a letter informing them that because of their un-Catholic secularist "social justice" policy with regard to their acceptance of the contraception mandate, the money I would ordinarily have donated to them will be henceforth donated to the local soup kitchen and/or food pantry......because my way of helping the poor is by feeding and clothing them and not by preventing them from being born vis a vis contraception and/or abortion!

40 posted on 02/12/2012 5:08:18 PM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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