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E-Cat 'Cold Fusion' Machine: Claims of Fraud Heating Up
LiveScience.com ^ | Fri Feb 10, 11:24 am ET | Natalie Wolchover

Posted on 02/11/2012 12:35:42 PM PST by dila813

If Italian inventor Andrea Rossi's cold fusion machine, called the E-Cat, really works, then the world's energy problems are all but solved. Rossi claims that a small amount of input energy drives a fusion reaction between hydrogen and nickel atoms inside his machine, producing an outpouring of surplus heat that can be used to generate electricity. And instead of the nasty radioactive byproducts given off by nuclear fission reactors — think Fukushima or Chernobyl — the E-Cat spits out just a teaspoon of copper.

(Excerpt) Read more at old.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ecat; fraud; freeenergy; rossi; scam; seagullthread
Such an obvious solution to this scam, over looked till now.... I am sure it is only one of millions of ways to pull these scams off right under the noes of the optimistic and trusting.....
1 posted on 02/11/2012 12:35:49 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813
SImply write down what you want to check for on a 3X5 card and take it with you ~ then check the wires.

Here we have an article about people "modeling" what could happen, but they weren't there, and then someone who was there failing to read his 3X5 card.

Sure.

2 posted on 02/11/2012 12:46:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: dila813

There’s a thing called the scientific method. You formulate a hypothesis, then test it out and determine truth or falsity. So here’s a theory that someone is miswiring the power connection with the intent of conning people. So, do the test, don’t publish sensational headlines claiming “scan” without any data.

This article is rubbish otherwise.


3 posted on 02/11/2012 12:48:30 PM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob
what is this "scientific method" of which you speak?


4 posted on 02/11/2012 12:54:02 PM PST by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: bigbob

Given that Rossi will not allow anyone to look inside the machine, how exactly do you propose that these hypotheses should be tested?


5 posted on 02/11/2012 1:00:11 PM PST by TennesseeProfessor
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To: bigbob

ah, So you think Rossi deserves that ... do you

He is a fraud, he has always been a fraud, but some people are so dumb that until you reveal the guy as a fraud and lock him up they still will believe.

There are people that still believe that there is an internal combustion engine that runs on water and it was the evil oil companies that kept it out of production.

Some people are hopeless.


6 posted on 02/11/2012 1:06:36 PM PST by dila813
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To: dila813

I’ve always lived by this more-or-less infallible maxim: if it requires faith and testimonial, it’s not science. It’s humbug ... it’s deception ... in plain English, bullshit!


7 posted on 02/11/2012 1:12:58 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: dila813

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ernst_Worrell_Keely

Keely, all over again.


8 posted on 02/11/2012 1:22:20 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: dila813

“....the E-Cat spits out just a teaspoon of copper.”

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And some environmentalist will find a way to declare that copper causes global warming or worse and will be awarded a Nobel prize.


9 posted on 02/11/2012 1:28:36 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: dila813

That’s OK. After the dust settles he can get to work on a Perpetual Motion machine.


10 posted on 02/11/2012 1:43:20 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: dila813

The science is so poor that I am amazed that the Obamaloon administration and his Clown Show of Felon/Cretins have not yet invested billions in the venture.

He could get “intellectual” backup from the pseudo-scientists who back global warming...they don’t understand physics either.


11 posted on 02/11/2012 2:03:25 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: dila813

He’s not a very good fraud if that is the case.


12 posted on 02/11/2012 2:20:46 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: TennesseeProfessor
Given that Rossi will not allow anyone to look inside the machine, how exactly do you propose that these hypotheses should be tested?

This is very easy. Bring your own portable generator and run the test in the parking lot.

Anyway, I proposed the same explanation (the ground wire used to carry power instead of being just a safety measure) on Dec. 06, 2011 right here, on FR. This method is very obvious, actually.

13 posted on 02/11/2012 2:52:33 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Da Coyote

I think you broke the code! Secretary Chu where are you?


14 posted on 02/11/2012 2:57:44 PM PST by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: dila813
They all said Edison was a fraud, too. Oh, wait. No one said that.

Sorry :-)

15 posted on 02/11/2012 3:00:39 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: dila813
Since when are you expected to test a miracle?
16 posted on 02/11/2012 3:01:43 PM PST by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. - Ayn Rand)
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To: dila813

17 posted on 02/11/2012 3:08:18 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: dila813

“There are people that still believe that there is an internal combustion engine that runs on water and it was the evil oil companies that kept it out of production.”

Oh, no! That’s not true?

I was planning on burning water for fuel if the SHTF.


18 posted on 02/11/2012 3:08:38 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dila813

Only an idiot could claim fraud as anyone with a brain would not have been taken in by such nonsense in the first place.


19 posted on 02/11/2012 3:16:15 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: dila813
Is this true?

Cold Fusion was actually invented by Alchemist Jack in 1366, But he called it ``transmutation of the elemental metals.``

His half-gold half-copper slab, which he gave to King Ludwig II The Insane of Bavaria, may be viewed in the Vienna Museum.

Later on he used a goose which he had stolen from a giant slob living at the top of a beanstalk to produce a full golden egg which he gave to his mother, Mother Goose.

20 posted on 02/11/2012 3:28:15 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (Transmuted goosed metals? = who knew??)
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To: dila813
the E-Cat spits out just a teaspoon of copper.
Keep in mind that according to Professor Sven Kullander (University of Uppsala), we were supposed to have a "detailed isotopic analysis" of that Copper in time for Christmas. This would have gone a long way towards proving whether the E-Cat is real or not.

We're still waiting.

21 posted on 02/11/2012 4:30:45 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Da Coyote
The science is so poor that I am amazed that the Obamaloon administration and his Clown Show of Felon/Cretins have not yet invested billions in the venture.

There is a market for investors in cold fusion. Give Obama a chance to join in with your tax money.-tom

The Columbia Daily Tribune is reporting that Sidney Kimmel, Chairman of the Board of Directors and founder of Jones Apparel Group, Inc., is donating $5.5 million through his charitable foundation to fund studies in the field of cold fusion at the University of Missouri.

22 posted on 02/11/2012 5:05:02 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Darksheare

It’s amazing how much the modus operandi of various scam artists resemble each other.


23 posted on 02/12/2012 9:22:27 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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