Posted on 02/12/2012 9:06:28 AM PST by tobyhill
Despite renewed statements of concern by Catholic leaders, the Obama administration is done negotiating and will finalize its plan requiring insurance companies to provide free contraception to women working and studying at religious institutions, President Obama's chief of staff said Sunday.
Jacob Lew told "Fox News Sunday" that the compromise offered last week to address objections by the Catholic Church is clear and consistent with the president's "very deep belief that a woman has a right to all forms of preventive health care, including contraception."
"We have set out our policy," Lew said. "We are going to finalize it in the final rules, but I think what the president announced on Friday is a balanced approach that meets the concerns raised both in terms of access to health care and in terms of protecting religious liberties, and we think that's the right approach."
On Friday, Obama revised his decision to require all employers to provide contraceptive care after Catholic organizations balked that it is an intrusion on the Church's religious liberty to require it to provide birth control. The president changed the mandate to shift the burden to insurance companies to provide free access to birth control and other forms of contraception.
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Second, NOTHING IS FREE. Religious organizations will pay for this whether directly of indirectly.
Amazes me that he just keeps bypassing congress.....
There should now be do doubt what a narcissistic ass he truly is.
The king has spoken.
I’d almost forgotten that we even have a Congress. Sadly, the members thereof seem to have forgotten it too.
I trust that the bishops, and all the other real Christian leaders in our country, simply will not accept this royal command, and will continue to speak out against it.
I was late to church today, because I had to plug my car in and warm it up to get it started, but when I came in our Pastor was speaking about contraception and the right of Catholics to their faith and beliefs. He also said something about a pro-contraceptive editorial attacking the Church in our local paper. I don’t know if he mentioned Our Muslim Leader or Obamacare before I came in, but I imagine he was following instructions from our Bishop.
In any case, it seems we are hearing something about this, even in the Socialist Republic of Vermont.
This issue should be used to defeat Obama, even if the Establishment Republicans are willing to go along with it. We should make it clear that this is a Fascist imposition on our the First Amendment and our Constitutional Freedoms, without precedent. (There are precedents, of course, but this goes way beyond them.) I think Palin, Santorum, and Gingrich will all push this, and I hope that the Tea Party will use it to get more conservatives into congress and shovel that useless jerk Boner out.
The King will be far too busy traveling, to attend to this matter, Czar Lew will answer any questions, and give you your opinion.
He's just warming up in this first round. He's pushed the envelope and found out there is no envelope. He'll have free reign.
Barry has not yet learned not to screw with the Catholic church. But he will soon. What an idiot. There goes the catholic vote.
This is so much bigger than “Who pays for the birth control pills”. This is congress wholesale handing over its legislative duties to the executive. On an unprecedented level.
77.7 million Catholics in America.
Not all are devout, but nearly all will defend their church against this monster.
Barky has just lost the election.
Good. This will even turn liberal Catholics off him, if they are observant Catholics.
Unless Obama has no intention of allowing a November election, he’s screwed.
I fear you may be right.
That’s why they designed it to grow its roots deep before it sprouts into its full-blown disaster.
We don’t even know the lengths to which they’ve already gone. They’re still writing and changing the rules everyday.
Even if struck down today, 15 years from now there will still be policies of Obamacare just coming to the surface.
Probably several hundred thousand employees.
Bomama is still faced with a 1st Amendment issue if they don't fold on the issue.
If they fold, you know they have placed commerce above life, the church and God.
Just wait, you don’t know the half of what is going on. You should see what is happening in WA State.
The Democrat legislature is trying to pass a series of bill that will essentially destroy the elective process.
We have all mail-in voting in WA state. Now, they want to add same day registration. so, if you aren’t a registered voter, you can vote on voting day, but others must mail in their ballots, before noon on voting day. While they don’t open the inner ballot ahead of voting day, they do open the outer envelope, from which they can tell what precinct the voter lived in. So, by extrapolation, they can get a rough estimate of voter turn out from each party. They turn these figures over to the parties in several increments during the voting period.
The other bill is what I call, the Heads we win, Tails You Lose bill. In addition to all mail voting, we also have district wide voting, meaning that the cities get to vote on who represents the suburban ad rural districts, as well. So, if that isn’t bad enough, the Democrats have proposed a bill that would allow any minority to challenge the election results by claiming that their vote was diluted by the district wide voting process and that they were essentially disenfranchised. Of course, these minorities all vote Democrat, so this would only come into play if a Republican won. So, It’s heads, Democrats win, Tails, Republicans Lose.
Then there is the move to have extra-legislative bodies pass land use regulations and manage funds collected from mitigation fees, permits and fines, to train a corps of brown shirt neighbors to spy on other neighbors and report their land use activities to these appointed extra-legislative boards.
Just wait, you don’t know the half of what is going on. You should see what is happening in WA State.
The Democrat legislature is trying to pass a series of bill that will essentially destroy the elective process.
We have all mail-in voting in WA state. Now, they want to add same day registration. so, if you aren’t a registered voter, you can vote on voting day, but others must mail in their ballots, before noon on voting day. While they don’t open the inner ballot ahead of voting day, they do open the outer envelope, from which they can tell what precinct the voter lived in. So, by extrapolation, they can get a rough estimate of voter turn out from each party. They turn these figures over to the parties in several increments during the voting period.
The other bill is what I call, the Heads we win, Tails You Lose bill. In addition to all mail voting, we also have district wide voting, meaning that the cities get to vote on who represents the suburban ad rural districts, as well. So, if that isn’t bad enough, the Democrats have proposed a bill that would allow any minority to challenge the election results by claiming that their vote was diluted by the district wide voting process and that they were essentially disenfranchised. Of course, these minorities all vote Democrat, so this would only come into play if a Republican won. So, It’s heads, Democrats win, Tails, Republicans Lose.
Then there is the move to have extra-legislative bodies pass land use regulations and manage funds collected from mitigation fees, permits and fines, to train a corps of brown shirt neighbors to spy on other neighbors and report their land use activities to these appointed extra-legislative boards.
Precisely. That's what's so scary about this whole thing. The way the health care bill was rammed through congress and the bypassing of the legislative process in its implementation is setting us up for some tough times ahead.
Precisely. That's what's so scary about this whole thing. The way the health care bill was rammed through congress and the bypassing of the legislative process in its implementation is setting us up for some tough times ahead.
Just wait, you don’t know the half of what is going on. You should see what is happening in WA State.
The Democrat legislature is trying to pass a series of bill that will essentially destroy the elective process.
We have all mail-in voting in WA state. Now, they want to add same day registration. so, if you aren’t a registered voter, you can vote on voting day, but others must mail in their ballots, before noon on voting day. While they don’t open the inner ballot ahead of voting day, they do open the outer envelope, from which they can tell what precinct the voter lived in. So, by extrapolation, they can get a rough estimate of voter turn out from each party. They turn these figures over to the parties in several increments during the voting period.
The other bill is what I call, the Heads we win, Tails You Lose bill. In addition to all mail voting, we also have district wide voting, meaning that the cities get to vote on who represents the suburban ad rural districts, as well. So, if that isn’t bad enough, the Democrats have proposed a bill that would allow any minority to challenge the election results by claiming that their vote was diluted by the district wide voting process and that they were essentially disenfranchised. Of course, these minorities all vote Democrat, so this would only come into play if a Republican won. So, It’s heads, Democrats win, Tails, Republicans Lose.
Then there is the move to have extra-legislative bodies pass land use regulations and manage funds collected from mitigation fees, permits and fines, to train a corps of brown shirt neighbors to spy on other neighbors and report their land use activities to these appointed extra-legislative boards.
Southern Baptist have vowed to go to jail to protect these freedoms that Obama seems to think that he can take away by edict.
Not if we sit back and expect it to be handed to us. There are a lot of religious Democrats, including Catholics. Conservatives and Tea Party members need to reach out to them and take them away from the Democrats. Anyone whose freedom has been recinded should be openly encouraged to join us.
SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY GETS IT!
“Just wait, you don’t know the half of what is going on. You should see what is happening in WA State.”
I’m of the firm belief that there should be no “voting alternatives”, such as “mail-in” voting, “provisional ballots”, “absentee ballots” (except in special circumstances), “early voting”, etc.
ALL of this corrupts the integrity of the system and affects the outcome. Sometimes this is “inadvertent”. Other times the corruption is “by design”.
EVERYONE should be required to register far enough in advance so that the registration can be verified before the election, NO EXCEPTIONS.
EVERYONE should be required to physically show up at the polls ON ELECTION DAY, and vote only after presenting valid I.D. NO EXCEPTIONS (see below).
The ONLY persons who should be offered the opportunity for “absentee ballots” are those serving in the military, or working out-of-state or in school (as properly verified in advance), and senior/disabled/infirm persons who have (and can prove) physical disability in reaching the polling places. NO EXCEPTIONS OTHERWISE.
I also believe that no election results should be published until ALL ballots from ALL precincts, counties, towns, etc., have been received and tabulated. They can’t cheat if they have no idea who’s winning. Even if the election totals are not available for 24-48 hours after the polls close, this helps to ensure that the results can’t be tampered with.
Having written all that (it’s Sunday!), if you don’t like the way that Washington state does things, sad to say your only alternative is to move OUT of Washington to a state that adheres to more “traditional” types of elections. Washington is ‘way “tipped” towards the left/liberal side, if it hasn’t toppled all the way over. Conservatives just aren’t going to have much of a voice there in the times to come....
This is all nonsense. People acquire contraception and abortions now like there’s no tomorrow.
This is about power and tyranny. I think they know it, too.
Yes I think Barry is so ignorant of the Christian religion that he has really stepped in it this time. This will be on the front pages day after day now. Its all bad for him. Who in the world believes the hype that he can get re-elected?
What does it mean if Obama has ‘’a very deep belief’’ in something yet is perfectly willing to compromise that belief within less than a week of public opposition? It means he’s completely driven by political expediency.
Unfortunately for Obama, the Catholic Church also has deeply-held beliefs which 2000 years of existence have proven it is not willing to compromise. Not to mention the deeply-held beliefs of the radical feminists whom Obama pretended to support with his original policy yet has now stabbed in the back for the sake of his selfish political interests. And then there are the insurance companies whose deeply-held belief in making a profit does not allow them to give away their products for free.
”Blah! Blah! Blah!!!”
He hasn’t compromised anything and he hasn’t stabbed the feminists in the back at all. He’s given them even more than they got the first time around, because now this will be forced on everyone in a way that can’t even be separated off from the policy they are forced to buy, and also everyone will end up paying for it.
He also mentioned earlier when this was being discussed that the government would pay part of the costs, possibly through Planned Parenthood which would distribute the contraceptives, although I haven’t heard him say that again. Maybe he tipped his hand too early and his advisors told him to shut his mouth for a bit and just work on defeating the bishops first.
He hasn’t compromised anything and he hasn’t stabbed the feminists in the back at all. He’s given them even more than they got the first time around, because now this will be forced on everyone in a way that can’t even be separated off from the policy they are forced to buy, and also everyone will end up paying for it.
He also mentioned earlier when this was being discussed that the government would pay part of the costs, possibly through Planned Parenthood which would distribute the contraceptives, although I haven’t heard him say that again. Maybe he tipped his hand too early and his advisors told him to shut his mouth for a bit and just work on defeating the bishops first.
He hasn’t compromised anything and he hasn’t stabbed the feminists in the back at all. He’s given them even more than they got the first time around, because now this will be forced on everyone in a way that can’t even be separated off from the policy they are forced to buy, and also everyone will end up paying for it.
He also mentioned earlier when this was being discussed that the government would pay part of the costs, possibly through Planned Parenthood which would distribute the contraceptives, although I haven’t heard him say that again. Maybe he tipped his hand too early and his advisors told him to shut his mouth for a bit and just work on defeating the bishops first.
Ooops, sorry for the Triple Reply! FR is quite wonky today and I was actually trying to back out of my post without posting it at all...and instead I posted it 3 times. I didn’t really think it was all that important, honest!
No president's "view" can ever become a Constitutional and legal law. Policy at no level can supplant the legislative branch of the U.S.
Period.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it... ...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--"
Until the Declaration of Independence, and the Bill of Rights have been uxpunged from our national identity, We the People have the absolute right to register our "redress and grievances."
Our elected representatives can ignore mail; they can disconnect their phones, they can turn off email. All verifiable actions.
I can't think of a clearer form of "high crime and misdemeanor" than the evasion of the duty they were elected to perform.
Dear Congress : REIN IN THE ROGUE EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT. NOW!!
As St. Pelosi condescendingly deigned to tell us so long ago, we will learn what's in the law after "they pass it."
Well, we sure continue to learn, don't we.
The chance the GOP ever really tries to undo this is very slim
Why does everyone adopt their Language and argue the issue according to the way they Frame it. If you agree that Obama has the Authority to Compromise on your God Given rights according to the Constitution,then it is over,he has no Authority to Trample your Constitutional Right to Practice your Faith and he does Not have the authority to Order Insurance companies to cover anything and what to charge for it so lets stop jumping up and down and trying to Rationalize all these left wing Absurdities. Someone in authority should hold a News Conference and say the President is out of Control and is Violating his Oath of Office on a daily basis and he should skip a Round of Golf and get a Copy of The Constitution for Dummies
This was something that Steve King & Michele Bachmann tried to get defunded immediately after the 2010 election that gave the Rs control of the House. They tried to get Boehner & company to defund the $105 Billion that was pre-authorized to start the implementation of the bill. Needless to say their plan fell by the wayside as the Establishment would not go along with their effort.
What gives him the right to issue a mandate such as this?
Why will the insurance companies just go along?
Anybody hear of the tea party?
Just don’t go along. What can this guy do if the insurance companies don’t go along? The answer is nothing. He would be dead in the water until November when he will surely be gone now.
What gives him the right to issue a mandate such as this?
Why will the insurance companies just go along?
Anybody hear of the tea party?
Just don’t go along. What can this guy do if the insurance companies don’t go along? The answer is nothing. He would be dead in the water until November when he will surely be gone now.
It becomes a tax-supported bennie.
Gives us a better chance of winning in November.
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