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Live free or sneeze? New Hampshire weighs ban on scents worn by state workers
FOX News ^ | February 12, 2012 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 02/12/2012 4:17:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: JenB

I go through the gammit of symptoms, inclusing lightheadedness and dizziness, but can’t say it’s an altered state. Namely because I’m very aware of what’s going on and know that I need to get away from the fragrances. Eyes red and watery, throat and sinused swelling up, instant massive headaches, racing heart (that and the throat tightening up are the most distressful), lungs that either can’t take air in or on one occasion, simply stopped functioning for about 10 seconds. THAT totally freaked me out.

Inspite of all that, this is one problem that I can control by thinking ahead or having a bug-out plan for scenarios like the wedding shower. People may get upset because I’ll refuse invites but too bad. My health comes first. And frankly, the trip to ER over this incident was nothing compared to another trip due to another health issue I have. So I keep it all in perspective.

As for your daughter, if she winds up with the problem, it’ll be more due to heredity than exposure. I’m sure they notice others more because of the lack of them in your home, but health-wise, they’re probably ok.

For what it’s worth, and a bit off-topic, if the SHTF, people may want to ba aware that the fragrances they wear can tip off anyone they may be trying to hide from, for whatever reason. Just food for thought.


51 posted on 02/12/2012 8:37:05 PM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: JenB

(Not sure if this posted, so this might be a double post.)

I go through the gammit of symptoms, inclusing lightheadedness and dizziness, but can’t say it’s an altered state. Namely because I’m very aware of what’s going on and know that I need to get away from the fragrances. Eyes red and watery, throat and sinused swelling up, instant massive headaches, racing heart (that and the throat tightening up are the most distressful), lungs that either can’t take air in or on one occasion, simply stopped functioning for about 10 seconds. THAT totally freaked me out.

Inspite of all that, this is one problem that I can control by thinking ahead or having a bug-out plan for scenarios like the wedding shower. People may get upset because I’ll refuse invites but too bad. My health comes first. And frankly, the trip to ER over this incident was nothing compared to another trip due to another health issue I have. So I keep it all in perspective.

As for your daughter, if she winds up with the problem, it’ll be more due to heredity than exposure. I’m sure they notice others more because of the lack of them in your home, but health-wise, they’re probably ok.

For what it’s worth, and a bit off-topic, if the SHTF, people may want to ba aware that the fragrances they wear can tip off anyone they may be trying to hide from, for whatever reason. Just food for thought.


52 posted on 02/12/2012 8:39:07 PM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Bigg Red

I don’t have allergies, but most scent is a migraine trigger. So I agree...


53 posted on 02/12/2012 8:40:02 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hey, wouldn’t surprise me one I-O-TA!


54 posted on 02/12/2012 8:40:20 PM PST by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: JenB

Altered states - while the migraine tends to be the big issue, there’s also a condition where one suffers without the headache. Almost a migraine syndrome.... And when that happens, I can get very spacey and completely unable to concentrate.

In non-perfume situations, it can happen up to a day ahead of time.


55 posted on 02/12/2012 8:46:56 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If my house was next to yours then why should you be able to ban my use of DDT in my front yard Even if some of the spray ends up in your yard?

I bet that if I wore Skunk Cologne to your workplace as a fellow employee that sat next to you then we would find out that you just couldn’t stand it. I bet that you would be whining up a storm. Better yet-why take a shower- That is my scent. Like it or lump it.


56 posted on 02/12/2012 9:06:29 PM PST by Revel
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To: Ladysmith

I got called to jury duty once. Selection process was in a Small room with several people who were dosed with the stuff. Luckily there was a plea bargain early on. I was really getting sick. Next time that happens I am not going to be so nice. Talk about being trapped.


57 posted on 02/12/2012 9:13:00 PM PST by Revel
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To: benewton
We who live here really need to ban the Massholes from moving up.

I keep telling Mass liberals what a places to live are New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine. We'll get the Commonwealth righted one day.

58 posted on 02/12/2012 9:13:13 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Revel

There’s a company that sells tiny vials of the chemical that makes skunk scent stinky. 3 drops will clear a room.


59 posted on 02/12/2012 9:23:12 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: TalBlack

“I think most of this “allergy’ stuff with respect to perfume is a result of the cheap knock-off garbage so availible today”

I think this is true. I believe it is the petroleum based products that cause the instant allergic reaction to these smells.

I personally have developed a sensitivity to some of these products that results in an instant headache, wooziness and nausea. I need to immediately remove myself from such exposure but when it is not possible, I get angry thinking that these people are deliberately pouring this substance on themselves to annoy others. I’m sure it’s over the top to react that way but my opinion is that this subject has been sufficiently covered by media and that most people are aware of it but think that it’s “other people’s scents”, not their own that could be a problem.

When someone tells me their husband likes it I tell them to wear it for their husband then, but not for us.

Obviously I have no patience with this subject and don’t mind this law being put into effect myself.


60 posted on 02/12/2012 9:24:18 PM PST by tinamina
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To: Ladysmith

I have the same problem, and when several women wear several different overwhelming scents, it is painful to be at work. Even though I have told my office mate about my sensitivity, she from time to time slips and wears perfumed lotions or something.


61 posted on 02/12/2012 9:29:06 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Washington,DC is FULL of people with Political Experience... How's that Working out for you??)
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To: Revel

Yes, because it’s MY workplace. If YOU want to wear skunk perfume in YOUR workplace, and your co-workers are OK with that, then it’s all good.


62 posted on 02/12/2012 9:35:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Your workspace would also be my workspace. You make no sense. If I can’t ware my “Skunk” then you can’t ware your “Whatever”.


63 posted on 02/12/2012 9:55:06 PM PST by Revel
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To: AnTiw1

Cool.


64 posted on 02/12/2012 9:56:04 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

I’m just saying, that in reality, we’re in different workplaces. But if you want to apply for a job here, and then come to work wearing skunk perfume, be my guest, for I shall be ready with stink perfume to counteract you.

I simply believe that this scent policy should apply on a workplace-by-workplace basis, rather than have some busybody legisl00ter try to ban scents statewide.

However, if you want a more comprehensive ban, come to my state (Maryland). Lots of people want to ban lots of things around here. You’ll be in good company.


65 posted on 02/12/2012 11:17:45 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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I just wish people would exercise some self control. There's a woman in the building where I work that people will actually press the first available floor button if they're trapped on the elevator with her. I was stuck on a trip down, and when I took the elevator back up 20 minutes later, I could still strongly smell her perfume. I swear this woman must put on her perfume with a crop duster!

Mark

66 posted on 02/12/2012 11:33:59 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Mears
Remember going out bike riding and it was fine, you just had to be home when the street lights went on..didn't need helmets, walk home from school without having the buddy system so you wouldn't get kidnapped...swimming in the school pool after school, different times for boys and girls so you weren't hassled.

Segregation is so awful now a days you have to put up with boys if you want to go swimming in the pool....Co-ed dormitories in college now co-ed public bathrooms that let transsexuals and cross dressers use the girls bathroom, it stinks in this country and don't you dare call a spade a spade cause that has racist overtones....It sure didn't when I was young...there was a difference between a spade and a shovel...we have become the insane asylum for the universe and the nuts are running it...

You could suspend trouble making students from school, there was no mainlining of special needs kids that upset the whole classroom and the teachers that think its important for 6th graders to know how to put a condom on a cucumber...Glad I am old and had a fine time being young and without fear and crisis being crammed down our throats, along with lie's told by textbooks in school about globull warming etc....the list goes on forever.....

67 posted on 02/12/2012 11:40:29 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You make excellent points. Yes, one would think that an executive order from the governor could cover it. Camel’s nose may well be it.


68 posted on 02/13/2012 7:26:32 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Ladysmith

Someone I was in conversation with many years ago told me that the problem was that so many of the fragrance manufacturers include hay oil in the mix, and that is what initiates the allergic reaction. Don’t know if this is it or not.


69 posted on 02/13/2012 7:29:20 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


70 posted on 02/13/2012 8:39:59 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: OldCountryBoy

“..they want to regulate smell?”

Yep. It has been going on for quite awhile. In fact, there was many a FReeper that celebrated the regulation of what they considered to be smelly. I wonder if they are celebrating the end result of their abandonment of conservative principles....


71 posted on 02/13/2012 8:54:39 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Revel

“You people who think this should be a protected right to force people to breath that stuff are ignorant.”

Ah the old “right to breathe” argument, which is no different than saying that your employer MUST provide contracaption to you. Liberalism is as liberalism does.

Instead of being pro-active and taking action to find a more suitable employer, or to really take a risk and become an employer yourself, you prefer to make a proclamation that their rights as property owners be nullified for your “right to scent free air.”

I fear for our Republic, but it is not a new fear.


72 posted on 02/13/2012 9:06:26 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: tsomer

” but once out in public place we’re obliged to show some sense of decorum. Smelling like a tear-gas factory, a rabbit cage or turd is nobody’s right”

Are you willing to have government law enforcement shoot and kill anyone wearing what you would deem as to much perfurme/cologne? The only way your preference can be enforced is via government guns, so you must be willing to use those guns to ensure your preferences are met....

That is the reality for any law or regulation. We must be willing to shoot and kill anyone who does not adhere to them, otherwise the government has no ability to enforce any law or regulation.


73 posted on 02/13/2012 9:11:36 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: AlmaKing

“It’s odd that folks call them themselves Conservatives on FR, but jump on the ‘ban’ bandwagon the second a law comes up that address their pet peeve.”

Convenient conversativism runs rampant on “ban” threads. It is the logical conclusion of the removal of critical thinking from our schools.

Baaa, Baaa, who is leading American Idol?


74 posted on 02/13/2012 9:15:23 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Revel

“If my house was next to yours then why should you be able to ban my use of DDT in my front yard Even if some of the spray ends up in your yard?”

Yeah you got it! Those of us that are trying to stop continual government growth and trampling of property rights/individual liberty are actually anarchists!

Do you work for MSNBC news?


75 posted on 02/13/2012 9:21:59 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM
Are you willing to have government law enforcement shoot and kill anyone wearing what you would deem as to much perfurme/cologne? ...

Hm-m-m...
That does sound a little extreme, now that you mention it.

Okay. How 'bout we just call the fire department and hose them down? It's win-win as I see it-- I get relief from my sneezing fit and the offender gets the bath they should have taken in the first place.

76 posted on 02/13/2012 1:39:04 PM PST by tsomer
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To: tsomer

” How ‘bout we just call the fire department and hose them down?”

And if they refuse, who do you call next? I’ll give you a hint, it is the ones with the guns!

When anyone proposes new laws or regulations, they must always keep the last resort of enforcement in mind. In order to enforce any law, someone must be willing to shoot and kill any offender. If the offender fails to submit at all of the prior (lesser) stages of enforcement, then society must be willing to kill them.

That prism should add some perspective for anyone that considers passing laws to cater to their preferences.


77 posted on 02/13/2012 1:45:34 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM
And if they refuse, who do you call next? I’ll give you a hint, it is the ones with the guns!

Well, okay.

But only they should only shoot the recidivists.

78 posted on 02/13/2012 2:27:16 PM PST by tsomer
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