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US data in Iranian hands after downed drone?
Fox News ^ | 2/10/2012 | Catherine Herridge

Posted on 02/13/2012 6:58:20 PM PST by U-238

The 10-week investigation into the downing of a CIA drone in Iran is raising questions as to whether the malfunctions inadvertently may have handed the Iranians not only the aircraft but its data.

Based on the review, a former intelligence official told Fox News that investigators think one of the drone's three major "data streams" began sending back bad information to its U.S.-based operator.

A leading question is whether the bad data caused the drone's operator to inadvertently land the aircraft.

But it also raises the possibility that the faulty data stream could have prevented the drone from dumping the intelligence it had collected. When a drone malfunctions, it is programmed to dump data so it does not fall into the wrong hands.

A former intelligence official confirmed to Fox News that the CIA's comprehensive review has been unable to replicate the specific malfunction that brought down the drone in Iran. Contact was lost with the drone and its operators on Nov. 29.

A congressional official, also familiar with the CIA review, said: "We have looked at this eight ways to Sunday. I can tell you it was a U.S. technical problem. The information (data) was not lining up and it was not the result of Iranian interference or jamming."

While efforts to reproduce or replicate the malfunction have failed, investigators are now focusing on how to prevent a repeat in the future -- but without the hardware or the drone itself, those efforts have been challenging.

While the former intelligence official said the Iranians do not have the ability to integrate the multiple data streams on the drone platform, the loss of the CIA drone could allow Tehran to gather information about materials and hardware. The intelligence data is thought to be encrypted and not easily accessed.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; cia; drone; iran; mq1; predators

1 posted on 02/13/2012 6:58:34 PM PST by U-238
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To: Jet Jaguar; txhurl; nuconvert

Ping.


2 posted on 02/13/2012 7:02:14 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: U-238

comforting./s


3 posted on 02/13/2012 7:02:57 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: U-238

China will tell Iran everything they want them to know about it.


4 posted on 02/13/2012 7:09:20 PM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: U-238

This is exactly why SF wanted to go in and destroy it.

Jug-ears the dumb-azz said no, the muzzies might be “offended.”

Can’t get him out fast enough...

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5 posted on 02/13/2012 7:19:27 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: U-238

***...whether the malfunctions inadvertently may have handed the Iranians not only the aircraft but its data.***

Inadvertent? Not with this CIC...


6 posted on 02/13/2012 7:35:53 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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To: U-238

tell us about the drone pilot

does he have a new Swiss bank account?


7 posted on 02/13/2012 7:44:20 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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I can guarantee you this. All of the data in and on the plane will end up in Russia,China or North Korea.What ever happen to an automatic self destruction when incidents like this happened?


8 posted on 02/13/2012 7:46:57 PM PST by U-238
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To: elpadre

I think the drone pilot of the plane is all right.Its not his fault for flying a faulty plane. This is all of General Atomics fault and the CIA’s fault for not providing secure data links.


9 posted on 02/13/2012 7:51:18 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

Quite frankly, none of this makes any GD sense.

There are limited scenarios that could possibly occur. One has to be what happened.

And no, super spy drones are not designed without failsafes—that is elementary.

And they are tested prior to use.

There is collusion here somehow. And I mean, up to the White House.

There is no reasonable explanation for this foul-up, which had multiple errors. None.

And none are acceptable.


10 posted on 02/13/2012 7:55:56 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: exit82

Its clear the plane did not have any failsafes because they General Atomics thought that the Iranians would not “spoof” the plane.That plane should of had a self destruct mechanism or switch the second the plane went out of control.


11 posted on 02/13/2012 8:01:07 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238
“I think the drone pilot of the plane is all right.Its not his fault for flying a faulty plane. “

I heard that Obama ordered a rescue mission be put together to get the pilot back.

12 posted on 02/13/2012 8:04:11 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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I would like to suggest to the CIA or Air Force to consider adding a self destruct mechanisms on all of their drone spy airplanes.


13 posted on 02/13/2012 8:04:42 PM PST by U-238
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To: HereInTheHeartland

In fact Obama did send a special operations team to get the plane but they were too late.


14 posted on 02/13/2012 8:06:48 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

That makes no sense. This is not directed to you personally.

Of course it had failsafes. That is standard operating procedure.

For this to even happen, there had to massive, multiple failures by multiple personnel.

Or it was ordered to happen.

With the regime, the latter makes the most sense.

The whole notion being put out by these sources that the drone had no failsafes is just disinformation...of the most insulting kind. We are not idiots.


15 posted on 02/13/2012 8:13:20 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: exit82
drone's operator to inadvertently land the aircraft.

There was nothing inadvertent about it. Someone paid a fee and on Obama's direction it was deliberately landed in enemy territory.

The Chinese then deposited the cash into the right accounts as payment in full.
And we all thought Clinton was good, Obama's Chicago training puts Obama far above even Clinton's tech transfers to China.
16 posted on 02/13/2012 8:56:41 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: exit82
Of course it had failsafes.

Yes but what if it was planned and the drone was set to land there?
Didn't it strike anyone how cavalierly it was handled?
It was NO accident that hardware or software could have prevented.
17 posted on 02/13/2012 9:20:56 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: exit82
Of course it had failsafes.

Yes but what if it was planned and the drone was set to land there?
Didn't it strike anyone how cavalierly it was handled?
It was NO accident that hardware or software could have prevented.
18 posted on 02/13/2012 9:22:45 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: U-238

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if this drone just happened to have a USB drive on board that contained all of our most top secret weapons data.


19 posted on 02/13/2012 9:36:23 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

those who know aren’t sayin and those who are sayin don’t know.


20 posted on 02/13/2012 9:48:38 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: exit82

Well, the failsafes failed in this case. Now comes the who is to blame part.


21 posted on 02/13/2012 9:54:18 PM PST by U-238
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To: exit82

Well, the failsafes failed in this case. Now comes the who is to blame part.


22 posted on 02/13/2012 9:54:33 PM PST by U-238
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To: Domandred

Predator and Reapor planes do have USB drives to update maps and transport mission videos from one computer to another


23 posted on 02/13/2012 9:57:34 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

I didn’t say anything about said USB drive having anything to do with the drone, other than the “downed” drone being the delivery method.


24 posted on 02/13/2012 10:01:57 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

I read you. Who really knows.


25 posted on 02/13/2012 10:07:36 PM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

scenario to me screams : pilot got captured while operating, administration wants to say something else happened to the aircraft


26 posted on 02/14/2012 12:31:06 AM PST by KTM rider
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To: U-238

He was waiting for clearance from lawyers.


27 posted on 02/14/2012 6:41:01 AM PST by steve8714 (Yoda's speech to Luke; copied from Jack Webb in "The D.I.")
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To: RitchieAprile

Yes, and the lack of any proof is proof of how good the cover-up actually is.

The UAV experienced some sort of malfunction unrelated to anything the Iranians might have done. . .if the Iranians even knew the thing was there. (The Iranians didn’t know it was there, otherwise they would have seized the platform immediately after it touched-down).

The UAV went into a lost-link flight profile and eventually ran out of fuel, however, the on-board electronics still functioned and kept the platform trimmed and therefore balanced, and this accounts for the relatively low level of damage-—it glided in fully trimmed.

The UAV was designed many years ago and was designed to operate in hostile airspace, not just in permissive airspace.

News “reporters” rarely have a clue about what they are reporting on, and in this case, the news reporters are making stuff up because they don’t know a darned thing.


28 posted on 02/14/2012 7:03:30 AM PST by Hulka
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To: KTM rider

Yeah. . .while operating the UAV from his on-base operator station in Creech AB, Nevada.


29 posted on 02/14/2012 7:04:46 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Ah Ok I always thought these needed operators within a certain proximity to establish a satellite link , my bad, so there goes the conspiracy theory of deliberate downing , too many eyes and ears at a US airbase, not plausable


30 posted on 02/14/2012 8:06:58 AM PST by KTM rider
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To: Hulka

OR a solar flare EMF broke the com link , we are entering the 11 year cycle of peak solar flare activity


31 posted on 02/14/2012 8:27:30 AM PST by KTM rider
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To: Hulka
Currently, the U.S. Air Force uses a concept called "Remote-Split Operations" where the satellite datalink is located in a different location and is connected to the GCS through fiber optic cabling. This allows Predators to be launched and recovered by a small "Launch and Recovery Element" and then handed off to a "Mission Control Element" for the rest of the flight. This allows a smaller number of troops to be deployed to a forward location, and consolidates control of the different flights in one location.

evidently yhe system needs a forward operating team in line of sight proximity on the ground because of the sattelite delay between controller joystick and vehicle, it can be launched 400 miles away and handed off , so capture of the forward operating base is a possibility, NO ?

32 posted on 02/14/2012 8:43:42 AM PST by KTM rider
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To: steve8714

....or the forward operating team was KIA


33 posted on 02/14/2012 8:51:00 AM PST by KTM rider
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To: U-238

What a f*king joke.


34 posted on 02/14/2012 9:41:17 AM PST by Levante
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To: KTM rider

Safety observers are there to monitor the launch and recovery, not as some sort of comm-link.

There is no requirement for this UAV (or Predator) to have a direct line-of-sight satellite feed as the data is passed through. . .satellites. . .and latency between what a controller puts in and the UAV actually moving is negligible and hardly noticeable.

The quote you provide talks about helping launch and recovery,not operations, and a “capture” of the UAV electronically can’t happen. . .especially with the Iranians or even the Chinese or Russians. . .the signal is encrypted and secure and beyond their capability.


35 posted on 02/14/2012 3:27:46 PM PST by Hulka
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