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China seeking to cut off iPad supply
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| 2/14/2012
| Eric Slivka
Posted on 02/14/2012 8:14:48 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: dennisw
Go back 25-30 years and nuke all these masturbatory electronic devices as a trade. I would go for it in a split second Is it too early for me to detect the sarcasm, or do you really want to go back to a pre-internet, and pre-Free Republic, society?
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posted on
02/15/2012 4:47:50 AM PST
by
Pilsner
To: KarlInOhio
I agree. It looks like a major supply chain management oops. An iPad is basically 10 electronic sub assemblies plugged together and stacked in a case. Everything that supports its production - silicon and PC board fab, assembly and test are commodity resources available everywhere. It’s not like they have millions of dollars tied up in one-off precision tooling.
Hind sight is always 20/10, but it would have been wise to be prepared to turn on production in another location in a heartbeat.
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posted on
02/15/2012 5:27:46 AM PST
by
Jack of all Trades
(Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
To: Pilsner
Of course I would go back 30-40- years ...America was much better back then in a thousand ways. America was much better put together. America was more functional and producing with less emphasis on consumption.
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posted on
02/15/2012 10:14:40 AM PST
by
dennisw
(A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
To: Pilsner
Of course I would go back 30-40- years ...America was much better back then in a thousand ways. America was much better put together. America was more functional and producing with less emphasis on consumption.
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posted on
02/15/2012 10:15:03 AM PST
by
dennisw
(A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
To: Astronaut
How does it feel to have all your eggs in the ChiCom basket, Apple?
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posted on
02/15/2012 10:17:38 AM PST
by
SharpRightTurn
( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
Proview MFG., a small, wholly owned mainland Chinese manufacturing subsidiary of Proview, Inc., a Taiwanese LCD manufacturing company that sold Apple the worldwide rights to its Ipad trademark in 2009, claims that it did not agree to the sale made by Proview Inc.the company that OWNED it, and owned the trademark rights to iPadeven though they had no ownership interest in the trademark... so, they claim, the rights are still theirs in China, even though they have never made an iPad product, sold an Ipad product, or used the trademark "Ipad" in China. So the subsidiary is disputing the Trademark that their wholly owning owners, the company that OWNS THEM, and the Trademark, have already sold!PING!
Apple being fraudulently sued for using something they OWN Ping!
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posted on
02/15/2012 11:40:04 PM PST
by
Swordmaker
(This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
To: KarlInOhio
Even with outsourcing I'm surprised that Apple didn't set up a second source factory just to keep China from screwing them. Apple is making iPads and iPhones in Brazil as well.
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posted on
02/15/2012 11:48:24 PM PST
by
Swordmaker
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To: SamAdams76
My gut feeling is that Apple ends up settling this "trademark dispute" for a very significant chunk of their cash on hand. If Apple is as smart as I think they are, they start looking to build factories elsewhere. Why? They own the worldwide rights to the name, purchased from the company's owner. At worst they change the name of the iPad in China... or don't sell them there under that name.
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posted on
02/15/2012 11:50:54 PM PST
by
Swordmaker
(This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
To: Jack of all Trades
I agree. It looks like a major supply chain management oops. An iPad is basically 10 electronic sub assemblies plugged together and stacked in a case. Everything that supports its production - silicon and PC board fab, assembly and test are commodity resources available everywhere. Its not like they have millions of dollars tied up in one-off precision tooling. No, they are not. Show me another manufacturer making iPads... Apple subsidized the building of the factories
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posted on
02/15/2012 11:58:38 PM PST
by
Swordmaker
(This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
To: nutmeg
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posted on
02/16/2012 12:01:02 AM PST
by
nutmeg
To: Astronaut
Cheers!
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posted on
02/16/2012 3:00:13 AM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: dennisw
We would have had NONE of these problems if Truman had nuked Stalin back in '46 when he had the chance.
Cheers!
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posted on
02/16/2012 3:08:58 AM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: Swordmaker
Another good reason to pull production back to the US.
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posted on
02/16/2012 4:05:01 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(FReep this FReepathon!)
To: dennisw
“masturbatory electronic devices”
In public too! Have they no shame?
To: Swordmaker
I don’t understand your comment. Apple chose a single source so by definition, there is only one manufacturer.
My point is that the process is highly transportable unlike a precision mechanical assembly where you can have very long lead time items like complicated robotic assembly lines, and manufacturing processes that require significant knowledge transfer when they move.
Pretty much every contract electronics manufacturer in the world is already set up to stack a bunch of parts into a case and to an end of line test. The Tooling (bills of material, PCB artwork etc) can be transferred in an email. The gating item in setting up another source for iPads would probably be component lead times.
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posted on
02/16/2012 5:49:16 AM PST
by
Jack of all Trades
(Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
To: Astronaut
When Apple switched screen materials for the iPhone, Foxconn roused 8,000 workers in the middle of the night, fed them biscuits and tea, and led them to the assembly line to make the last-minute change while maintaining a target delivery date.
Do you really think unionized US labor could pull this off?
To: Jack of all Trades
Pretty much every contract electronics manufacturer in the world is already set up to stack a bunch of parts into a case and to an end of line test. The Tooling (bills of material, PCB artwork etc) can be transferred in an email. There is the problem of all those CNC milling machines for the aluminum cases. Not many electronics manufacturers have those set up for production. I believe Apple's parts makers such as Foxconn are the only ones using it on such a large scale. And with Apple's investment they bought up much of the world production of such machines for a while, so it would be hard for anyone else to get up to speed very quickly.
To: KarlInOhio
This is just one little company being greedy and stupid. China loves Apple manufacturing there and would not want to lose it.
To: roadcat
Apple makes the A5 cpu for the iPad in Austin, Texas. Micron makes various sorts of memory in Manassas, Virginia ... if Apple's overseas suppliers get froggy, there ARE alternatives.
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posted on
02/16/2012 6:21:00 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: antiRepublicrat
When Apple made things in America, were their factories unionized? I don’t know for sure, but I don’t think so.
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