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To: Apollo5600
Obviously there is no standard regarding Newt's record, other than claiming his alignment with DUmocrats were all "mistakes" that should be explained away without substantial demonstration of a "change of heart". He admits his long-time support of such issues were mistakes, then devotes himself to making new ones.

"When you have a guy who basically knee-jerk reactions to everything he hears from an opponent with something negative... that is quite off putting."

That describes Newt's reaction all through the campaign and most likely a reason for his decline since the latest news coming out from his staff is now claiming he's once again "changed" focus of his campaign after losing ground through baseless attacks he himself was guilty of.

Newt has a long history of talking a good game, making it a point during this campaign to say “all the good things” (we’ve already got one of those in the White House). I'll take a leader who LIVES IT every day and doesn’t run the ball for the other team during his down time.

60 posted on 02/15/2012 7:18:49 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster

“Obviously there is no standard regarding Newt’s record, other than claiming his alignment with DUmocrats were all”
“mistakes” that should be explained away without substantial demonstration of a “change of heart”.”

That’s basically a lie, just like you lied about me attacking Rick Santorum’s family. If not a lie, a very gross malfunction in your brain. You are basically ignoring huge portions of Newt’s record.

You’re talking about a guy who has done battle against the Libs and RINOs in our own party since the 80s. There is nothing that changes that. He did not support Cap and Trade. Sitting on the couch with Pelosi didn’t change his overall philosophy. Sitting on the couch with Pelosi doesn’t change his leadership role. Once upon a time, this guy used to be called the “Hard line leader of the conservative Republicans” by the media. He was hated then as he is hated now. But look at you, utterly unwilling to acknowledge this historical reality... and why? Because, like Santorum, you can’t bring yourself to say anything positive about your political opponent.

“He admits his long-time support of such issues were mistakes, then devotes himself to making new ones.”

Like what? Can you be specific?

“That describes Newt’s reaction all through the campaign and most likely a reason for his decline since the latest news coming out from his staff is now claiming he’s once again “changed” focus of his campaign after losing ground through baseless attacks he himself was guilty of.”

That’s another lie, or you are incredibly delusional. I know Newt has gone after Romney pretty hard. He hasn’t gone over Santorum hard at all. In fact, it was Newt early on who urged conservatives not to go negative at all.

Santorum has called Newt crass, irresponsible, pandering, suggested that he is dishonest, suggested that he is not conservative.

Can you please find me an example where Newt has lied about Santorum’s record, or smeared Santorum by calling him names or suggesting he has poor character?

If you can’t, I’ll just put it in the list of lies you’ve told.

Newt has a long history of talking a good game, making it a point during this campaign to say “all the good things” (we’ve already got one of those in the White House). I’ll take a leader who LIVES IT every day and doesn’t run the ball for the other team during his down time.”

“Newt has a long history of talking a good game, making it a point during this campaign to say “all the good things” (we’ve already got one of those in the White House). “

So, giving specifics about what his plans are, what he intends to do, are “all the good things” that he is just saying to get elected?

“I’ll take a leader who LIVES IT every day and doesn’t run the ball for the other team during his down time.”

So not giving specifics, emphasizing his family image and his social concerns, over actually promoting a platform is what you would call “living it”?

I’m going to ask you for the 3rd or 4th time.

Try defending Santorum’s platform. Explain how it is better than Newt’s platform. Immediately accusing Newt of being an absolute liar in everything he says does not fulfill this experiment.


61 posted on 02/15/2012 7:49:32 PM PST by Apollo5600
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