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Combat Drones Soon To Fly Over U.S. Airspace [Police State Coming]
JD Journal ^ | 2/14/2012

Posted on 02/15/2012 3:59:44 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

exactly, where in the news reports does it tell us the names of the critters who pushed this??


21 posted on 02/15/2012 6:13:11 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
Turbo, thanks for at least one rational post on this thread.

More like sheep huddling together.
22 posted on 02/15/2012 6:14:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Paging the anti-Patriot Act crowd....


23 posted on 02/15/2012 6:15:17 AM PST by jersey117 (Perry 2012)
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To: wolfcreek

No mistaking it - the main target of the elites (ie, communists) are those that are self sufficient and not as dependent on the government as the majority of the population.


24 posted on 02/15/2012 6:16:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: grobdriver
first time one of these damn things has a mid-air with a family in their Bonanza,

The "idiots" will just ban privately owned aircraft.

25 posted on 02/15/2012 6:23:18 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: MrB

I saw some idiot on FOX yesterday saying this is no different than being on surveillance camera in a convenience store. In a convenience store I know that I have a somewhat limited right to privacy and I accept that.

The real problem is the fact that flyover country people like myself, sometimes go weeks at a time without turning up on a surveillance camera. Obviously we’re up to no good.

As it is, counties are already using satellite images to reassess taxes. A couple years ago a guy in a neighboring town was fined big bucks for damming an 18 inch wide creek on his property and creating a little frog pond under 50 square feet. He beat the criminal prosecution when the DEQ couldn’t explain how they knew about it but he still had to remove the dam.


26 posted on 02/15/2012 6:36:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Venturer

7500 is a typo.

7500 total worldwide, counting all other countries and their versions of an RPV.


27 posted on 02/15/2012 7:11:57 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Turbo Pig

Logic is not to be tolerated when it comes to conspiracies. . . .

Manned police and military helicopters flying over the US all the time, as well as manned and ARMED fighters flying over the country all the time.

UAV integration is a subject that has been going on for years and years and years, with “sense and avoid” as primary, and the risk of air-to-air collision is foremost in the minds of all those that are working the issue.

The average dolt in is Bonanza has a greater risk of colliding with another aircraft than does a UAV, especially since the UAVs fly in space airspace, under positive control with radar providing constant feed to the operators. . .whereas the average dolt in a Bonanza doesn’t fly under positive control, doesn’t pay much attention to where he is looking and rarely ever speaks with radar control.

Predators in the DHS are used along the southern border mostly, with a few along the northern border.

They have a role to play in natural disasters and other, more extreme, incidents (nuke).


28 posted on 02/15/2012 7:18:46 AM PST by Hulka
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To: cripplecreek

Surveilance cameras in convenience stores are not capable of being armed with missiles.


29 posted on 02/15/2012 7:37:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Turbo Pig

By the same logic, since Google Maps updates its pictures periodically, it would be no problem if they put webcams in front of everyone’s houses then.


30 posted on 02/15/2012 7:46:10 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t suppose they’ll be coming into shotgun range...


31 posted on 02/15/2012 7:57:32 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: cripplecreek
"Worse yet, I might be growing a garden back there."

Ten years ago that comment would have sounded kooky paranoid.

32 posted on 02/15/2012 7:58:36 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Jack of all Trades; cripplecreek

We are on the same side. Both your responses are comparing apples and oranges, though. You both cite instances where the government is being intrusive (CCTV on individual dwellings, and unwarranted, illegal phone taps of private citizens) which we can all agree can not be tolerated.

The only way your arguments hold water is if you are saying that simply flying UAVs over US soil, which is already happening, equates to the government snooping on US citizens without cause.

The government has over stepped its bounds on so many issues, including unwarranted surveillance. Picking this issue to get upset about strikes me a a little off base. You want to get upset about something, how about the arming of LEOs with military grade gear (like those jack asses at Red Jacket Firearms do on a regular basis and any number of state and local entities) and tactics? How about obama’s recent coup of getting Congress to authorize the detention of US citizens without due process. Or, how about DHS, and state agencies categorizing people like us as potential terrorists, simply because we hold conservative views on tax law and the 10th amendment.

Pick battles where your uniform won’t consist of a tin foil hat, lest we loose the war.


33 posted on 02/15/2012 8:07:08 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: JimRed

Now I have an excuse to buy a belt-fed .50 cal.


34 posted on 02/15/2012 8:08:50 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Turbo Pig
Pick battles where your uniform won’t consist of a tin foil hat, lest we loose the war.

Typical coward's trash talk.
35 posted on 02/15/2012 8:11:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: moehoward
Ten years ago that comment would have sounded kooky paranoid.

LOL as you can see, it still does to the uninformed.
36 posted on 02/15/2012 8:18:25 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Venturer

I read a story that threw out the number of drones being flown worldwide since 9-11 as between 10K and 20K. But who really knows?


37 posted on 02/15/2012 8:33:02 AM PST by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: Turbo Pig

Maybe my tinfoil hat has slipped, but I don’t see this in terms of a singular development, but rather as part of a chain of events. Technology is going to enable universal surveillance that will be impossible to resist unless there is a public outcry. At every stage, resistance will seem unwarranted by many because it’s just a little more, or it’s for the children.

I’ve worked more than 20 years as an electrical engineer, and I like to keep an eye on “what if”, out there, potential technologies. Consider this: someday in the not too distant future, wifi enabled cameras will cost a fraction of a penny to produce and be printed on a plastic sheet. “Here you go kids! put’em everywhere. It’s for your safety.”


38 posted on 02/15/2012 8:46:59 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Maybe they're going to use them to look for lost puppies /s


39 posted on 02/15/2012 9:01:54 AM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Wonder if an RC with a little anhydrous surprise has the legs to go up there and say “hello”...just cogitatin’ ;^)


40 posted on 02/15/2012 9:03:49 AM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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