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As US Navy shrinks, China launches more, better war ships
Reuters ^ | 02/15/2012

Posted on 02/15/2012 4:54:14 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

As US Navy shrinks, China launches more, better war ships

HONG KONG — As looming budget cuts force the Pentagon to plan for a smaller US navy, China is accelerating the launch of new, increasingly capable warships as part of a sustained drive to become a major maritime power.

Shanghai's Hudong Zhonghua Shipbuilding Company late last month launched the fourth of China's new 071 amphibious landing ships according to reports carried by Chinese military web sites and the state-controlled media.

While most attention has been drawn to the ongoing sea trials of China's first aircraft carrier, military analysts say the expanding fleet of 20,000-ton landing ships, the biggest domestically designed and built vessels in the Chinese navy, delivers a far more immediate boost to Beijing's global influence.

"Having a significant fleet of large amphibious assault vessels clearly suggests a desire for power projection," says Christian Le Miere, a maritime security researcher at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.

"If you want the surgical insertion of forces, for a range of reasons, then you need amphibious response ships."

Military rivalry China's naval buildup comes amid mounting maritime tensions in the Asia-Pacific region, which is likely to be one of the main geopolitical stress points in the coming decade.

Military planners previously had focused mainly on a potential conflict in the Taiwan strait. More recently, however, Japan and China have locked horns over islands each claims in the East China Sea; Vietnam, the Philippines and other nations are disputing territorial claims with China over parts of the South China Sea thought to be rich in oil and gas.

The US Navy has announced it will deploy its own new amphibious assault vessels, the Littoral Combat Ships, to the "maritime crossroads" of the Asia-Pacific theater, stationing them in

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KEYWORDS: amphibious; china; lpd; navair; navy; usn
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Funny then, that you run crying to Congress to save you. How’s your plan to double the price of gasoline being received? I bet the Democrats love it.


21 posted on 02/15/2012 5:59:01 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Eat your wontons.


22 posted on 02/15/2012 5:59:34 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Free trade" is destroying America)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

And by extension, how do you think that doubling the price of fuel will affect our military readiness?


23 posted on 02/15/2012 6:02:12 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Until you accurately represent my position (you know it, because you brought up a lame imitation of it without prompting) I’ll not bother to “refute”, thanks anyway.

America first.


24 posted on 02/15/2012 6:04:30 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Free trade" is destroying America)
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To: 1rudeboy
The U.S has lost the ability to manufacture most high tech products . This is all due to Clinton's “Free trade” with China. How does that affect our U.S. military readiness? We are becoming dependent on communist China. We are losing the ability to defend ourselves not to mention the ability to support ourselves. Greece and Detroit is our future if trade with China is not stopped NOW. Look at my profile for more.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/08/17/why-amazon-cant-make-a-kindle-in-the-usa/

Amazon couldn’t’t make a Kindle here if it wanted to

Decades of outsourcing manufacturing have left U.S. industry without the means to invent the next generation of high-tech products that are key to rebuilding its economy, as noted by Gary Pisano and Willy Shih in a classic article, “Restoring American Competitiveness” (Harvard Business Review, July-August 2009)

The U.S. has lost or is on the verge of losing its ability to develop and manufacture a slew of high-tech products. Amazon’s Kindle 2 couldn’t be made in the U.S., even if Amazon wanted to:

25 posted on 02/15/2012 6:12:08 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: 1rudeboy; Cringing Negativism Network; All
Cringing is right. The U.S has lost the ability to manufacture most high tech products . This is all due to Clinton's “Free trade” with China. How does that affect our U.S. military readiness? We are becoming dependent on communist China. We are losing the ability to defend ourselves not to mention the ability to support ourselves. Greece and Detroit is our future if trade with China is not stopped NOW. Look at my profile for more.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/08/17/why-amazon-cant-make-a-kindle-in-the-usa/

Amazon couldn’t’t make a Kindle here if it wanted to

Decades of outsourcing manufacturing have left U.S. industry without the means to invent the next generation of high-tech products that are key to rebuilding its economy, as noted by Gary Pisano and Willy Shih in a classic article, “Restoring American Competitiveness” (Harvard Business Review, July-August 2009)

The U.S. has lost or is on the verge of losing its ability to develop and manufacture a slew of high-tech products. Amazon’s Kindle 2 couldn’t be made in the U.S., even if Amazon wanted to:

26 posted on 02/15/2012 6:13:35 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Couldn’t have said it better myself!


27 posted on 02/15/2012 6:21:20 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: 1rudeboy

We have oil,oil shale , everything we need here in the U.S.A. Liberal environmentalists won’t let us produce our own energy, our own oil , coal plants, nuclear etc. Liberals say coal plants, oil , manufacturing plants are destroying the planet with global warming which is a lie.

We can’t be dependent on Communist China.


28 posted on 02/15/2012 6:21:29 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Hussein Obama shrinking our Fleets, shrinking our Nuclear arsenal, reducing the number of combat ready troops. This a—hole is destroying America’s ability to adequately defend itself. The people of this country need to wake up. . . instead of watching Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, etc., they should be watching what this Pr - - k is doing to America.


29 posted on 02/15/2012 6:30:03 AM PST by Mr. Wright (N\)
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To: Wolfie

It’s almost as if being a manufacturing powerhouse with self-interested trade policies pays for a strong military.


As opposed to a Welfare state where every spare dollar goes to maintaining an ever growing population of dependents? Make no mistake, our current course is going to suck away every nickel for legitimate Government functions—especially national defense. All we’ll have left is a huge population of deadwood who will riot at the first benefit cut. And to make it worse, we’re chasing our industry away with a combination of mandates, regulation, taxes, and an unprepared (but entitled) workforce.

Honestly, we’re a bunch of idiots.


30 posted on 02/15/2012 6:35:55 AM PST by rbg81 (scillian's)
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To: Democrat_media
Greece and Detroit is our future if trade with China is not stopped NOW.

Oh, boy. We have the Chinese building bigger and better warships, and instead of properly identifying the problem (that our government spent itself into a hole), folks on this thread are blaming Wal-Mart and the fact that CEO's own too many homes.

We can run around yelling "Greece!" at each other, but it's pointless unless people begin to understand what Greece represents.

31 posted on 02/15/2012 6:37:47 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: rbg81
Honestly, we’re a bunch of idiots.

These threads are getting closer and closer to the equivalent of standing downwind of a fire at a tire dump, and worrying about secondhand tobacco smoke.

32 posted on 02/15/2012 6:41:49 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I think what you're trying to say, is people are beginning to understand what "Free trade" represents and it's not at all what you are claiming it to be.

And you find yourself like a cheating husband, trying to explain why really, honest it's different this time.

No it's not different. We are destroying America, and sending everything which made our nation mighty and great - to the nation rapidly becoming our likely next adversary. It is madness.

33 posted on 02/15/2012 6:48:24 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Free trade" is destroying America)
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To: 1rudeboy
How is the your free trade working for you?Been to Detroit lately? Take a look at the picture on my profile. Detroit used to be the industrial capital of the world .Today it is a decaying hell hole of crime, truly hell on Earth.

We are living on Debt , not producing anything .We don't produce our high tech products like tablet PC, smart phones, PCs, and all the parts for those.How can we survive like that?

34 posted on 02/15/2012 6:49:01 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I know nothing of marriage, thankfully, but I know enough about women that they change the subject when they can't argue anymore.

It's rather sad, really. I know that you understand what Greece represents but you are so emotionally wrapped-up in your argument that you cannot admit it and simply move forward.

35 posted on 02/15/2012 6:54:07 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Democrat_media

I used to work in Detroit. For a national manufacturer. Why don’t you go ahead and explain to me what happened to Detroit?


36 posted on 02/15/2012 6:55:45 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m a guy. And I’m not the one changing the subject.

The subject is the PLAN. Naval forces, of the Peoples Republic of China.

Ironically, the subject is not Greece.


37 posted on 02/15/2012 7:00:34 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Free trade" is destroying America)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Hate to say I told ya so, but there it is.


38 posted on 02/15/2012 7:00:57 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Then stop acting like a woman and pretend that you understand my comment #31.

And my larger point remains--our government got us into this mess by spending too much money, and instead actually addressing the issue, folks are yelping about Wal-Mart and such.

The true irony (you don't understand that word, either) is that you are part of the problem.

39 posted on 02/15/2012 7:11:20 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

First off, I like women. I’ve even argued with one or two.

The point however framed with gender background, might be to consider for a moment “political correctness”.

Is it bold or brave for anyone in America to adopt a position which is politically correct? Be “for diversity”? Advocate government controlled free speech? Hardly, political correctness is brainwashing and meekness, disguised as “individualism”.

What has become mis-named “free trade” is our side’s version of political correctness. It is passively accepted as somehow being some sort of central truth. There’s nothing brave about being for “free trade”. It’s what the mob believe, going along is no more difficult than chanting the same thing, as everyone else with you.

To put it in terms you might better understand, it takes cojones to OPPOSE free trade.

(Supporting) free trade, is a bit like being a good girlfriend. Don’t argue too much. Be agreeable, not pointing out he burps and is a slob.

Free trade supporters, would make good girlfriends.

Real men, support defiance.

Now that we’ve got the gender flames out of the way, how about you talk about the Peoples Liberation Army (Navy), and how it is the PRC is so rapidly becoming strong like we have been, and how it is we concurrently are becoming weak, without jobs, money and industry.

Like the PRC was just a couple decades ago.


40 posted on 02/15/2012 7:25:36 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Free trade" is destroying America)
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