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As US Navy shrinks, China launches more, better war ships
Reuters ^ | 02/15/2012

Posted on 02/15/2012 4:54:14 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: 1rudeboy
Democrats/liberals and your free trade destroyed Detroit as they will destroy what is left of the U.S.A.

Stop believing international socialist propagandists that want to destroy the U.S. border with free trade and illegals.During the 1800’s The U.S. used to have a very small limited government and high tariffs. This is how the U.S. became the world leader,and most technologically advanced society ever with the highest living standards. Read Pat Buchanan’s books or articles to see how free trade ruined America.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2774127/posts

For since the Revolution, America has had a standard of living that has been the envy of the world. From the Civil War through the 1920s, as we became the greatest manufacturing power the world had ever seen, our workers enjoyed pay and benefits that were unmatched anywhere.

Yet our exports in those decades were double our imports, and our trade surpluses annually added 4 percent to the gross national product. How did we do it?

We taxed the products of foreign factories and workers and used the revenue to finance the government. We imposed tariffs of up to 40 percent on foreign goods entering our market and used the tariff money to keep taxes low in the United States.

We made foreigners pay a price to get their products into our market and made them pay to help finance our government. We put our own country and people first.

Detroit the future of America:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2846418/posts

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41 posted on 02/15/2012 7:30:06 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
That's your problem. Intellectually-honest protectionists will admit that there is a cost to the policies they propose.

So it doesn't take balls, it takes brains to oppose free trade. Even little things, like admitting that we don't have free trade with China, or that raising tariffs hurts some U.S. manufacturers and helps others, or that doubling the price of gasoline will hurt everybody, or that the current federal budget deficit is $1.3 trillion, and that the Amazon Kindle and Wal-Mart have nothing to do with its size.

42 posted on 02/15/2012 7:34:01 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Whatever then.

I’ll wish you well (and some sort of unlikely pro-American epiphany) until next time.


43 posted on 02/15/2012 7:38:08 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("Free trade" is destroying America)
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To: 1rudeboy

Democrats and your free trade destroyed Detroit. And these will destroy what is left of the U.S.A..

Why don’t you answer how can the U.S.A defend itself, or even survive if we can’t produce any high tech products nor any product soon, but instead just live on debt borrowed from China to pay for more China crap?

U.S. has lost ability to manufacture high tech products proof:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/08/17/why-amazon-cant-make-a-kindle-in-the-usa/


44 posted on 02/15/2012 7:39:29 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Democrat_media
Detroit might well be the future of America, but tariffs won't save Detroit. As soon as you understand the above, you'll get a decent handle on why Detroit is in the shape it's in.

From there, it shouldn't be too difficult to understand why tariffs won't save the U.S., either, until our federal government is brought under control.

45 posted on 02/15/2012 7:41:06 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Bye, sweetie.


46 posted on 02/15/2012 7:42:47 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Yes government size needs to be reduced. The EPA and IRS should be abolished first then government regulations on businesses reduced greatly. But We also need to stop trading with China and other countries or at least do to China what China has done to us the U.S. Communist China is evil. We can't be dependent on China. Look at the rise of China and and the U.S. decline. It's a cause and effect China's rise was because they stole our American industries:
47 posted on 02/15/2012 7:50:51 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Democrat_media

The problems are ratcheting up the minimum wage, handing out more and more freebeesfree freebies to welfare bums and turning our education system into a cesspool of drooling morons and liberal sycophants. That stuff is obliterating our high tech sector and all the tariffs in the world will not fix it.


48 posted on 02/15/2012 7:59:57 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ
Well your free trade certainly is helping China not the U.S. Yes welfare needs to be eliminated but is welfare creating this monstrous growth in China or is it that China is rising at the expense of the U.S. :yes China stole our industries so they rise at 25% economic growth while we deline and explode our debt.
49 posted on 02/15/2012 8:08:56 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Jacquerie; All

Today’s California IS our Greece...if Greece were being overrun by unassimilationist Turks...


50 posted on 02/15/2012 2:45:17 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: ClearCase_guy
But we have something like 150 F-22s. Not much margin for effor there. Any war of attrition would deplete our fleet pretty quickly.

The Japanese lost almost all their first team of experienced naval pilots in the first year of operations after Pearl Harbor, many of them at Midway. That was about 1,000 trained pilots and aircrew in a year.

They never recovered.

So how long would our F-22's last in sustained combat operations against a major opponent flying Sukhoi and Mikoyan-Gurevich iron, including the T-50 and J-20? Do the math.

51 posted on 02/15/2012 8:32:34 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Democrat_media

Concept good. Graphic execution needs improvement.

But still, China Today is more like Greece than USA.


52 posted on 02/15/2012 8:35:23 PM PST by bvw
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To: Democrat_media
How is the your free trade working for you?Been to Detroit lately? Take a look at the picture on my profile. Detroit used to be the industrial capital of the world .Today it is a decaying hell hole of crime, truly hell on Earth.

We need to keep in mind, America is a big place. Most of US soil have nothing built on it. Yet today, the US have more homes, infrastructure, etc. than in 1949. Keep in mind, the US provides a higher standard of living for its 310 million citizens today than the 160 million or so in 1949. The homes are bigger, more electricity are brought into each home today than in 1949. The shrinking of one city is not evidence of a nation in decline. What did San Jose or Seattle look like in 1949 compared to today? Or, what did the suburbs of Detroit look like in 1949 vs today? In both cases, those areas are much more built up today than in 1949. Sure, you could give me examples of many cities in America that are either dying or decaying. But I can also give you just as many cities that are vibrant and growing. From Atlanta, Georgia to Miami to Phoenix, AZ. Detroit is a big city, but all across America, are many small and medium sized towns that have a smaller population today than in 1949. The young people moved else where to the Seattle's, the Austin, Texas, the San Francisco's, the Atlanta's, the Miami's, etc.

The decay of Detroit is hardly an indication of America on the decline. Visit Seattle, Austin, Dallas, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Miami, etc. and the many suburbs surrounding Detroit and you'll see where everyone went.

53 posted on 02/20/2012 7:55:39 PM PST by ponder life
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