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Poll: Good economic news brightens Obama’s re-election prospects (....Comedians everywhere)
Yahoo News ^ | 02/15/2012 | Oliver Knox

Posted on 02/15/2012 2:01:47 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway

President Barack Obama's job approval rating has hit the 50-percent mark--an important reelection barometer--and he would beat any of the major Republican contenders for the White House if the vote were held today, according to a new CBS/New York Times public opinion poll that illustrates the political benefits of a steady stream of positive economic news. In hypothetical match-ups, Obama bests Rick Santorum 49 percent to 41 percent, Mitt Romney 48 percent to 42 percent, Ron Paul 50 percent to 39 percent, and former House speaker Newt Gingrich 54 percent to 36 percent, according to the survey, which was conducted from Feb. 8 to Feb. 13. The margin of error was plus or minus 3 percentage points.

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To: JimRed

Because they polled 10% more democrats than republicans?


21 posted on 02/15/2012 3:51:02 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Sorry, but the polls predicting Obama's win in 2008 were correct, and they may be close to the mark now. We have our work cut out for us, so we'd better think long and hard about who we throw our support behind.

Bingo. It's not hard to see a trend, people can just look at the RCP average - and dismiss any outliers if they'd like. Hussein is up across the board in most all polling including Rasmussen. When people whine about the polls, it just means they don't like the results.

Poll that shows Obama's approval sinking = good and believable. Poll that shows Obama's approval rising = lies by the evil polling companies. The truth is, polling is increasingly very accurate, especially when using a tool like the RCP average.

Economic news hasn't sucked as much lately and that has helped Hussein. Additionally, if we are talking about contraception, we are losing. Period. Even on something as disgusting as Obama trying to force religious institutions to cover birth control against their will. Truth is, most people want their contraception covered (even if they'd rather not talk about or admit it), Obama knows it, and that is why this administration loves that we've been on the topic of birth control.

22 posted on 02/15/2012 3:56:28 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
I think you're right, the polls are pretty accurate. Remember its only human nature to lash out against unpleasant news. so its not uncommon on FR for posters to diss poll results they don't like. Fact is, between the economic numbers being cooked and the media painting a rosy picture to protect Obama, the perception of the sheeple is that "things are getting better", or, "things aren't that bad, and in any case it's Bush's fault", and both misperceptions help Odumbears.

Anyone who buys groceries or puts gas in their car or eats at a restaurant knows that inflation is way, way worse than the media and government report. That should count for something. But a good portion of the sheeple will shrug it off for the reasons noted above. I can't tell you how maddening it is to talk to someone (and I've done it a lot) who knows all of these things, yet still says they "like" Obama. I ask them what's to like, and they say things like he's "nice". Well, cripes, there are huge numbers of "nice" people out there, does that mean they would be a good fit for the presidency? Unbelievable.

23 posted on 02/15/2012 4:05:47 PM PST by chimera
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To: Longbow1969

The real truth is that republicans are engaged in a contested primary and Obama is not. Obama trailed McCain while he was engaged in a contested primary despite the fawning of the MSM. When the primary is over and some truth hits the airwaves via conservative media buys we will get a true picture.

Until then we will not. That is the truth of the matter.


24 posted on 02/15/2012 4:08:59 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Longbow1969

BTW, if you look at the tabs in the poll Obama is underwater by 10 points on every economic question and those worried about losing their job is up 7 points from a year ago.

Things are not as rosey for the prince as they would have you believe.


25 posted on 02/15/2012 4:13:39 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Longbow1969

BTW, if you look at the tabs in the poll Obama is underwater by 10 points on every economic question and those worried about losing their job is up 7 points from a year ago.

Things are not as rosey for the prince as they would have you believe.


26 posted on 02/15/2012 4:13:49 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: chimera
I can't tell you how maddening it is to talk to someone (and I've done it a lot) who knows all of these things, yet still says they "like" Obama. I ask them what's to like, and they say things like he's "nice". Well, cripes, there are huge numbers of "nice" people out there, does that mean they would be a good fit for the presidency? Unbelievable.

All things being equal, people will generally vote for the candidate they perceive as nice - with a sunny disposition and a happy warrior attitude. All things aren't equal to we here on FR, but most Americans don't know squat. Most people are followers, sheep, have no idea what is going on and like Obama because he is personally charismatic and a good orator. Additionally, politically tuned in people on FR, Hot Air, etc, tend to assume most Americans really care about things like the constitution, tradition, etc. They don't. Most people will vote for pretty much anyone who they perceive will give them something for nothing or otherwise make their lives easier no matter what important principles are violated. Do people continue to say the constitution is sacred? Sure. Do they mean it? Nope, not most of em'.

None of our candidates has the personality, charisma and disposition to match Hussein. All of our candidates are better on the issues, but since most people don't actually understand the issues - they will listen to and vote for the person they personally like and relate to better. The problem is people like Obama personally. Worse, they WANT to like Obama - for whatever reason people are emotionally connected to him and can't let go (like some twisted battered spouse syndrome or something).

Think most Americans can relate to Romney? Nope. Santorum? Doubt it, especially if he is babbling on about the evils of contraception or otherwise coming off as a stick in the mud. Newt? Meh, I'm supporting him because I don't think we have any other option and feel like he could be an electoral hail mary, but he doesn't strike me as someone that a majority of Americans will relate to. The polls are likely correct. All the silly talk about any of our candidates being able to beat him was nonsense. Hussein will be very difficult to defeat, and the odds are that he will win re-election.

27 posted on 02/15/2012 4:35:36 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Pretty good summary of where things stand. On the "likability index", all of our current prospects get creamed by Obummer. A telltale sign is the disparity between the polls matching Obama against "generic Republican" and Obama against any of the named candidates. Obama generally loses against "generic Republican", but Generic Republican isn't running. As soon as a name is inserted, Obama clobbers most of them, wins handily against the other(s).

Nobody I talk to can give me a rational reason why they "like" him. Is it anything he has done? No. Is it anything he has said? Nothing specific. It's just a vague, general "like". How do you run against that? And he certainly has a solid base of support among the leeches. Obama promises free stuff to a lot of people who are used to getting free stuff from da gummint and depend on it. Those sycophants are a lock for Obama.

You're right, most of what concerns us here on FR is like Greek to the average voter. They have very little understanding of the Constitution and political theory, especially regarding the principles of a Constitutional Republic and the Rule of Law. They have even less understanding of economics and the consequences of essentially unrestrained public spending and debt expansion. Their eyes glaze over when we talk about $16 trillion of debt. They can't grasp it. They don't think its a problem because it is so incomprehensible. They have essentially zilch knowledge of military affairs and foreign policy. Their vote is predicated on how they feel, and what they think they can get for little or no effort. Those are the reasons Obama is in the strongest position to win, because he appeals to those baser instincts and says, hey, don't worry about all that other stuff, I'll take care of it (and you).

28 posted on 02/15/2012 6:57:51 PM PST by chimera
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To: chimera
Pretty good summary of where things stand. On the "likability index", all of our current prospects get creamed by Obummer. A telltale sign is the disparity between the polls matching Obama against "generic Republican" and Obama against any of the named candidates. Obama generally loses against "generic Republican", but Generic Republican isn't running. As soon as a name is inserted, Obama clobbers most of them, wins handily against the other(s).

Nobody I talk to can give me a rational reason why they "like" him. Is it anything he has done? No. Is it anything he has said? Nothing specific. It's just a vague, general "like". How do you run against that? And he certainly has a solid base of support among the leeches. Obama promises free stuff to a lot of people who are used to getting free stuff from da gummint and depend on it. Those sycophants are a lock for Obama.

You're right, most of what concerns us here on FR is like Greek to the average voter. They have very little understanding of the Constitution and political theory, especially regarding the principles of a Constitutional Republic and the Rule of Law. They have even less understanding of economics and the consequences of essentially unrestrained public spending and debt expansion. Their eyes glaze over when we talk about $16 trillion of debt. They can't grasp it. They don't think its a problem because it is so incomprehensible. They have essentially zilch knowledge of military affairs and foreign policy. Their vote is predicated on how they feel, and what they think they can get for little or no effort. Those are the reasons Obama is in the strongest position to win, because he appeals to those baser instincts and says, hey, don't worry about all that other stuff, I'll take care of it (and you).

Great, great post. You've said it better than I did. You've spelled out the reality of the situation we find ourselves in. There really isn't much to be optimistic about at this stage to be quite honest. The opposition is going to have a far more likable candidate again, the American public (such that it is these days) has no idea what is going on and vote on emotion and feeling, the MSM has simply moved further left to counter the new media (and still has massive reach), etc. All the while we have hordes of "head in the sand" conservative/Republicans who run around naively saying a ham sandwich could beat Hussein, and otherwise actually believe that a majority of the people really care about things like sticking to the constitutional principles, rugged individualism, personal liberty. Heck, our population is so utterly ignorant at this point that I am not sure that 50% could even name Biden as VP. It's all quite sad, and knowing that Obama will probably be re-elected and completely reshape the Supreme Court (which will radically change the country) is pretty depressing.

29 posted on 02/15/2012 7:15:40 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969; chimera

Excellent analysis.

Over 2300 years ago Plato showed how and why democracies evolve into tyrannies.

Nothing has changed in human nature.


30 posted on 02/15/2012 7:19:50 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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