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How Mitt Romney’s Mexican-Born Father Was Eligible to be President
ABC News ^ | January 27, 2012 | Huma Khan

Posted on 02/15/2012 9:21:05 PM PST by James Thomas

Mitt Romney’s father, George Romney, has been invoked on the campaign trail often.

Newt Gingrich used his release of 12 years’ of tax records as an example to push his rival to release his own tax returns. On Thursday night, Romney mentioned the fact that his father was born in Mexico in response to Gingrich’s allegations that he is “anti-immigrant,” which raises the question: If George Romney was born in Mexico, how could he run for president?

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birther; certifigate; georgeromney; moonbatbirther; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; naturalbornmormon; nbc; romney
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To: newzjunkey
Why are those same people challenging Romney based on George's birth not asking about Santorum's eligibility?

Who's challenging Mitt' eligibility? No one here, he was born in the US of parents who were citizens.

You realize that by citing the 1790 act, it shows that prior to the act, when the Constitution was written, such persons born of citizens outside US jurisdiction were not considered natural born? Else why bother with the law? Since the Constitution came first, the definitions when it was written are what count, unless it has been amended to change them.

As long as Santorum's parents were citizens when he was born, and he was born in the US (and possible outside it if one of them was in the service of the country serving outside of it) then he's good to go. \

21 posted on 02/16/2012 1:16:26 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: AlexW

Nothing at all gray about natural born. Very clear to me. Read the Constitution and the writings of the Founders. Pretty clear.


22 posted on 02/16/2012 1:26:57 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
One more thing: ". . .meet the criteria of native or natural born citizen."

That wording appears to be misleading doublespeak, to my eye. Surely you didn't intend such? After all, even the 2008 "Obama" campaign website "Fight the Smears" claimed "Obama" to be a "native born citizen" rather than natural born citizen. . .

23 posted on 02/16/2012 1:29:25 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: antceecee

“Nothing at all gray about natural born. Very clear to me. Read the Constitution and the writings of the Founders. Pretty clear.”
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Well, it is obviously very foggy to many, especially the Marxist.
If it were so clear, why are we even talking about it?


24 posted on 02/16/2012 2:03:50 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

Because we have traitors in our government and those who prop them up.


25 posted on 02/16/2012 2:05:52 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: James Thomas

“Former Sen. Don Nickles introduced the Natural Born Citizen Act in 2004 to define the term, natural-born citizen, to include people who derived citizenship at birth from a U.S. citizen parent and to children under 18 who were adopted by U.S. citizens.”

Obama was adopted by an Indonesian National, Lolo Soetoro, so he’s Indonesian.


26 posted on 02/16/2012 2:14:06 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (What would MacGyver do?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; newzjunkey
One more thing: ". . .meet the criteria of native or natural born citizen."

"That wording appears to be misleading doublespeak, to my eye. Surely you didn't intend such? After all, even the 2008 "Obama" campaign website "Fight the Smears" claimed "Obama" to be a "native born citizen" rather than natural born citizen. . . "

Should've been copied to you, newzjunkey, for clarity.

27 posted on 02/16/2012 2:18:23 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Liberty Valance

lol - that is one awesome picture.


28 posted on 02/16/2012 2:26:47 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster; Liberty Valance
This one's almost as good:

Vic "Rattlehead" Obama 2012!

h/t: Megadeth

29 posted on 02/16/2012 2:37:18 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: antceecee

“Because we have traitors in our government and those who prop them up.”
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Well, the US government is now nothing more then a gigantic scam, but lets keep to the subject.
We know or assume that Obozo’s mother was born in America.
Lets assume that Bambie was really born in Hawaii...something that I question, but lets say that he was.
One birther point is that Obama’s father was not American, so Obama is not a NBC.
Lets stay on that point for now and seen where that goes.

We can then get back to the massive obfuscations regarding the birth certificate, and lack of confirmation from Kapiolani, the purported point of immaculation.


30 posted on 02/16/2012 2:43:33 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Major Matt Mason

I noticed how they stste Obama had a Question about where he was BORN,but NOT A MENTION that his Father WAS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. That is what this article is about NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.NOT where you were born.
OBAMA IS NOT a Natural Born Citizen This article is a Piece of Crap


31 posted on 02/16/2012 3:29:35 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Hold on - what is “natural” about the requirement for two citizen parents?

English common law was also built on Natural Law - to them, just being born on the soil made one “natural” born.

How many Natural laws are there? Did American founding fathers change Natural Law - in which case why would it be considered natural? Or did they simply recognize a different Natural Law?


32 posted on 02/16/2012 5:35:36 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Dilbert San Diego
" I have also heard that the courts have never ruled on the official definition of a natural born citizen."

4 Supreme Court Cases define "natural born citizen"

33 posted on 02/16/2012 6:23:10 AM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Harlan1196
The Jay Treaty Strongly Indicates That Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President.
34 posted on 02/16/2012 6:23:47 AM PST by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Godebert
More legal scholarship from Leo Donofrio, Esq. ?

After the Revolution, there were serious citizenship and property issues to be resolved as the population sorted themselves into American and Englishmen.

Article 9 of the Jay Treaty says that British subjects and their heirs who owned property in America were afforded the same legal rights as American citizens - but only in regards to property rights. And vice versa for Americans with property in Britain.

Leo has stretched that clause beyond recognition to support his Vattel centric view of citizenship.

Have you considered that relying on a rock star wannabe, professional poker player with no actual legal experience might be a root cause for the fact that no eligibility case has ever succeeded?

In what fantasy world does a freak like Leo Donofrio, Esq. qualify as a constitutional scholar? Can you actually show me that prior to jumping on the eligibility gravy train, that he actually practiced law? Any court records? Any publications?

35 posted on 02/16/2012 6:47:28 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: AlexW

Let’s not assume anything. Obama voted for a law in 2005 that makes Americans prove their citizenship when applying for drivers licenses and ID cards. It requires a formal verification of vital records by the issuing agency. Let’s hold him to this same standard first.


36 posted on 02/16/2012 7:06:52 AM PST by edge919
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To: Admin Moderator; James Thomas
Please correct the title of this article!

“How Mitt Romney’s Mexican-Born Father Was Eligible to be President”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/how-mitt-romneys-mexican-born-father-was-eligible-to-be-president/

James Thomas:

The way you find out if an article has been posted is to paste the title into the FR search field. If it comes back with no hits, it hasn't been previously posted (barring a glitch). When I pasted the correct title of the ABC story into the FR search field, I got no hits, so it appears not to have been posted before.

If (when) the Admin Moderator corrects your title, then in the future other FReepers will get a hit when they search for it and won't double-post the article.

If you have enough space after using the correct title you can add you own personal editorial comment in parenthesis such as “(MSM acknowledges NBC ambiguity)”

37 posted on 02/16/2012 8:24:10 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: El Gato

Santorum’s father immigrated to the US when he was seven. It is pretty likely he was a US citizen when Rick was born. The pathway to citizenship was much simpler then and welcomed. As I understand it, his mother was as US citizen at birth.


38 posted on 02/16/2012 9:02:37 AM PST by epicurious
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To: newzjunkey
The very first Congress and President Washington addressed, and changed, the definition of "natural born citizen" (yes, that phrase) via the "Naturalization Act of 1790." Moving beyond the Birther movement's obsession with Vital, they specifically included children of American citizens born abroad or on the high sea.
And that Act was repealed and replaced with another Act a few years later.

Tell me again by what authority Congress cannot define who does and who does not meet the criteria of native or natural born citizen.
Congress can do that. However, it takes an Amendment to the Constitution, as noted in the article. Such attempts have failed to date.

The spider loves the fly who wonders into its web and time has delivered the fly unto the spider.

39 posted on 02/16/2012 10:12:30 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: James Thomas
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, went a step further, introducing the Equal Right to Govern Amendment in July 2003 to allow immigrants who had been naturalized for at least 20 years to run for president.

AKA the "Arnold Schwarzenegger for President Amendment" (back when Republicans thought Schwarzenegger was the future of the party and not the limp-wristed RINO he turned out to be).

40 posted on 02/16/2012 10:21:36 AM PST by Drew68
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